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After being impressed with my new Williams screwdrivers, I decided to give one of the made in the USA 3/8 ratchets a try, the B-52EHA. I have a ratchet deficit compared to most folks on the board. I really like the handle, has a real good fit to my hand and the chrome looks great. A couple of surprises, it does not have rubber seals and o-rings like my Snap-on F830, thought the sealed ratchet was a great idea when Snap-on introduced the design. The words on and off are not stamped into the ratchet, not a big deal but a slight surprise. The gear fit is great, has a solid click, all 36 teeth. The reason I am taking pictures of both ratchets they have the same patent number stamped on the cover 4934220, the williams has a second # 6125722. The attached pics show the gear and pawl, the williams is on the left.


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Speed-Racer said:
A couple of surprises, it does not have rubber seals and o-rings like my Snap-on F830, thought the sealed ratchet was a great idea when Snap-on introduced the design.
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First of all, let me compliment you on an outstanding presentation; the photos are excellent. :)

Your new Williams ratchet DOES appear to be sealed; I can see the seal inside the cover plate around the hole that goes around the drive end. The other seal will be around the reverse lever and you won't see that unless you pull the pawl out.

It doesn't however have the o-ring that goes around the edge of the cover plate like you have on your F830, and the seal on the reverse lever is actually an o-ring that goes directly around a groove in the reverse lever as opposed to the flat seal that goes underneath the pawl on your F830.

That Williams looks identical inside to my F936. I'm 99.99% sure the parts will interchange with my F936. The F936 is one very smooth and precise operating ratchet; I love mine. :)

I've always wanted to see the inside of the Williams version, thank you. :thumbup:

PS. If you were to completely clean all the grease out of that ratchet and switch over to Permatex assemble lube #81950, the smoothness you'd end up with would overwhelm you. :)
 
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I have not master the art of posting pics on GJ, would welcome anyone to publish them. Thanks
 
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How do you like your B-52EHA? I got one as a warrenty return and wasn't impressed by the mechanism compared to the B-51 I sent in.
 
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It seems fine, good design, really need to use it a little and break it in. I have never used a B-51, but have tried a couple of other vintage Williams ratchets. The williams designs are excellent(b4 merger), maybe Snap-On corp is making the parts interchange, if a F936 gear and pawl are identical per Merkava 4. The round head ratchets have the same number of teeth as the Snap-on's, not sure if they are the same or not. One drawback to Williams when they drop a line of ratchets no parts are available. Did your B-51 need a repair kit? Many times you can get a snap-on part for a 50+ year old tool.
 
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Merkava_4 said:
First of all, let me compliment you on an outstanding presentation; the photos are excellent. :)

Your new Williams ratchet DOES appear to be sealed; I can see the seal inside the cover plate around the hole that goes around the drive end. The other seal will be around the reverse lever and you won't see that unless you pull the pawl out.

It doesn't however have the o-ring that goes around the edge of the cover plate like you have on your F830, and the seal on the reverse lever is actually an o-ring that goes directly around a groove in the reverse lever as opposed to the flat seal that goes underneath the pawl on your F830.

That Williams looks identical inside to my F936. I'm 99.99% sure the parts will interchange with my F936. The F936 is one very smooth and precise operating ratchet; I love mine. :)

I've always wanted to see the inside of the Williams version, thank you. :thumbup:

PS. If you were to completely clean all the grease out of that ratchet and switch over to Permatex assemble lube #81950, the smoothness you'd end up with would overwhelm you. :)
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Do you own stock in permatex???
 
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Speed-Racer said:
It seems fine, good design, really need to use it a little and break it in. I have never used a B-51, but have tried a couple of other vintage Williams ratchets. The williams designs are excellent(b4 merger), maybe Snap-On corp is making the parts interchange, if a F936 gear and pawl are identical per Merkava 4. The round head ratchets have the same number of teeth as the Snap-on's, not sure if they are the same or not. One drawback to Williams when they drop a line of ratchets no parts are available. Did your B-51 need a repair kit? Many times you can get a snap-on part for a 50+ year old tool.
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The b-51 wouldn't open no matter what I did to it, it might of just needed to be cleaned up if I could open it.

I just was unimpressed becuase all of the older Williams ratchets I have ever used where great, I got this one and it went from "wow this is a great ratchet" to "hmm if I find someone who needs a new ratchet they can have this one".
 
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I have used it a couple of times. Trying to find something to test it on and took off a couple of wheel lugs that were torqued on at 80ft. I can see it being a favorite ratchet.
 
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Can anyone tell me how to remove the pawl from a Williams B-52EHA or similar ratchet? It's the ratchet on the left in the pictures above. I'm trying to disassemble one and it's not so obvious to me how the pawl gets removed.
 
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I have a 1/2 drive of that model. I love it! Its smoother then the long 1/2 Armstong I have and has a nice feel in the hand. Plus, I got it for $15 bucks on ebay. Can't beat that!
 
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Can anyone tell me how to remove the pawl from a Williams B-52EHA or similar ratchet? It's the ratchet on the left in the pictures above. I'm trying to disassemble one and it's not so obvious to me how the pawl gets removed.
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You just lift it up,it should slide right out.
 
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Bart Simpson said:
You just lift it up,it should slide right out.
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That was my first thought, but I even pried on it a bit and it didn't move at all. Supposedly, these Williams ratchets are similar to the older Snap-on F936 ratchets. On those, I've heard that the direction lever is press fit into the pawl. Removing the pawl ruins the fit between the lever and pawl and a rebuild kit is required afterwards. I'm not sure if that's true or not, as I've never disassembled one of those either.
 
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