Wilton 1780 8 inch jaws
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Outlawmws
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For 250 its a steal
for your purposes, I can't say if it's "THE" vise...
for your purposes, I can't say if it's "THE" vise...
Zrexxer
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An 8" Wilton Tradesman would be a hell of an all-around vise. And that one has pipe jaws, too.
What kind of "careful use" do you propose for an 8" vise???
drivesitfar
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Tedsters: if you are planning on buying it make sure to take the dynamic out and also maybe remove the dust cover (take a small wood dowel or even a 1/2 inch thread or some small round steel stock) to push it out. with a dent like that on the dust cover it may have been dropped and since its probably 110 pounder it could have cracked.
being a Tradesman it isn't quite as valuable as their Bullet models or C series vises, but it does look like it says Made in the USA on it's side. i can't say i see those often around here and paid more than that for a C2 so your call on value.
another thing to check on those Wiltons is at the base of the tube where the notch is on the static jaw that is sometimes cracked from being dropped or mis used.
good luck
just saw your question about rating it against a C1. the 8 incher is a much bigger vise so depends on what you are using it for. i'd say the C2 is closer to a 1780.
being a Tradesman it isn't quite as valuable as their Bullet models or C series vises, but it does look like it says Made in the USA on it's side. i can't say i see those often around here and paid more than that for a C2 so your call on value.
another thing to check on those Wiltons is at the base of the tube where the notch is on the static jaw that is sometimes cracked from being dropped or mis used.
good luck
just saw your question about rating it against a C1. the 8 incher is a much bigger vise so depends on what you are using it for. i'd say the C2 is closer to a 1780.
FMC1959
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How do you define tough? It is 8 inch, the C1 is 4 1/2", tough comparison at the get go. C1 are definitely more dense and considered Wilton's top of the line. But an 8" Tradesman is $1000 brand new. If it is in good condition, it would be a great deal, to keep or flip.
Drives
thanks for the tip on the dust cover i don't see any scrape marks on the cover or nothing and he said he can't remember how it happened, i may be able to get it for $200 it don't really look like its had a whole lot of use he said its around 10yrs old
thanks for the tip on the dust cover i don't see any scrape marks on the cover or nothing and he said he can't remember how it happened, i may be able to get it for $200 it don't really look like its had a whole lot of use he said its around 10yrs old
I put it in the same class as a C1 because of the weight there almost identical
in weight
No idea, never seen a C1 in person. I do however have a mint 1760 that while is a nice vise just doesn't seem as beefy as it's square slide brethren. I'd say it is a nice machinist type vise. It now belongs to a friend that at worst will probably use it to hold peanut butter jars while opening.
Agree with DIF on the dented dust cap issue.
See above, and I'm fairly certain all the tradesman series have pipe jaws.
drivesitfar
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Tedsters: Wilton did make a few Tradesman vises in China so if it is only 50 pounds it might be one of them. You might PM Orchidlane (I think that's his handle) because he has an 8 inch Wilton Tradesman he just told me weighs 110 pounds and he owns a few Wiltons. also Zoomieport has a few Wiltons.
Zrexxer
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You can see Made in USA clearly in the pictures he posted.
I have a 1760, and I have never had any regrets about buying it. There's nothing about it that makes me want to "use it carefully." It's not a C-series butit's a heavy-duty, malleable iron, US-made vise. An 8" would be more of the same.
Drives
he said this ones 110 pounds, I just got off the phone with him he said the dent happened when it was shipped he said his dad will let me know thursday if he will take $200 its right on my way to picking up my 956 parkerthat i have been waiting along time to get my hands on and the jaws are like new on it
he said this ones 110 pounds, I just got off the phone with him he said the dent happened when it was shipped he said his dad will let me know thursday if he will take $200 its right on my way to picking up my 956 parkerthat i have been waiting along time to get my hands on and the jaws are like new on it
drivesitfar
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Tedster: your 956 sounds awesome. i have one that works great, but it's had a hard life so i use it for my outside work. since it's on a 200 pound stand it's a pain to move in and out, but it's good exercise and i don't like the thought of leaving a big old vise outside in my neighborhood.
Zrexxer: i saw the Made in USA, but he also said it weighed the same as a C1 which are about 45 pounds. now that Tedster agrees it weighs in at 110 i agree it is plenty of vise for almost any job and not an imported lightweight vise. sounds like the 956 will be a nice match for each end of the garage.
here's a few pictures of my Parker 956 to add a little color to your thread. any pictures of your 956 that you are picking up to add please do.
Zrexxer: i saw the Made in USA, but he also said it weighed the same as a C1 which are about 45 pounds. now that Tedster agrees it weighs in at 110 i agree it is plenty of vise for almost any job and not an imported lightweight vise. sounds like the 956 will be a nice match for each end of the garage.
here's a few pictures of my Parker 956 to add a little color to your thread. any pictures of your 956 that you are picking up to add please do.
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I WAS WRONG the C1 that i used to have weighed close to 80lbs only a couple pounds difference in my 974-1/2 parker.....the C2 is close to 110lbs so yea the 1780 is probally a dang nice vise i will stop in the machine shop where i work and look at my sons 1780 and see what i think
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this is the only pic i have i gave him a small down payment and asked him if he would take it off CL and he had it off before i could blink but the vise is in super nice shape except for a little weld spatter on the front he had 4pics on there and put 3 more on when he posted the ones of the jaws i asked him if he would remove the pics and he did before i even gave him the downpayment
this is the only pic i have i gave him a small down payment and asked him if he would take it off CL and he had it off before i could blink but the vise is in super nice shape except for a little weld spatter on the front he had 4pics on there and put 3 more on when he posted the ones of the jaws i asked him if he would remove the pics and he did before i even gave him the downpayment
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drivesitfar
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Tedsters: i might have underestimated the C1 because it probably weighed more like 60-65, but i think 80 is a bit on the high side. I've owed 3 of them and don't have one today, but they are great vises.
whatever the case the 1780 is more like my C2 that i think weighed in at close to the 110 your 1780 weighs and it a stout vise.
the one picture of the Parker vise's jaws looks a heckuva lot better than the jaws on mine and if i remember correctly that vise is about 130-140 pounds so make sure to screw that bench into the wall if you are not mounting it on a heavy stand or steel bench.
whatever the case the 1780 is more like my C2 that i think weighed in at close to the 110 your 1780 weighs and it a stout vise.
the one picture of the Parker vise's jaws looks a heckuva lot better than the jaws on mine and if i remember correctly that vise is about 130-140 pounds so make sure to screw that bench into the wall if you are not mounting it on a heavy stand or steel bench.
oldldh
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The Wilton 1780 is a "whole heap" of all around vise...
The other 8"er in Wilton's lineup is the 800/800S and they weigh over 200 lbs...
The 800S is 238 lbs, I believe...
As a workbench "user", it'll do 99% of what you want a vise to do...
The difference in Wilton's Tradesman and Machinist vises is illustrated in the attached photo---1755 vs 500...
The other 8"er in Wilton's lineup is the 800/800S and they weigh over 200 lbs...
The 800S is 238 lbs, I believe...
As a workbench "user", it'll do 99% of what you want a vise to do...
The difference in Wilton's Tradesman and Machinist vises is illustrated in the attached photo---1755 vs 500...
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the C1 i had you couldn't hardly tell any difference at all of picking it up or my 974-1/2 if i remember right the parker was 77 or 78lbs
i am gonna take a look at my sons when i go into work in the morning i am pretty sure i am gonna pick it up i am gonna have to wait till he calls me back thurdsday though, the wilton is not listed anywhere so thats a plus
Verg
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Is there a difference between an 1780 and 1780A?
there may be the 1780 pipe jaws have a spring clamp on the back of them to hold them in place in the jaws, the 1780A could possibly be held in with a screw thru the front but i think they are the same vise
drivesitfar
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Tedsters: can you measure the swivel base of your son's 1780 and/or the one you are buying because i keep forgetting to measure my C2 and 1760 for Verg? he has a broken or missing swivel on his C3 and wants to see if other big Wiltons swivel bases will work so he might be able to buy a used one instead of a new $200 one from Wilton. thanks and sorry Verg but i'm heading out of town tomorrow so maybe Tedster can get you a measurement before i get back.
Verg
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Drivesitfar thanks for the assistance again! You have been extremely kind in your help. Tedsters if you can assist that would be great. i acquired a c3 not too long ago with out a swivel base. the measurements of my C3 vise bottom are:
8'' outer dia
close to 6-7/8'' inner base Dia with 3/32'' step
5/8'' bolt holes.
I found part number interchangeability on a site with wilton parts diagrams per vise. But don't trust the interchangeability it suggests. I find it sorta ironic that you created this 1780 thread as i am in the process of negotiating for one today now and have the very same questions you brought up!
8'' outer dia
close to 6-7/8'' inner base Dia with 3/32'' step
5/8'' bolt holes.
I found part number interchangeability on a site with wilton parts diagrams per vise. But don't trust the interchangeability it suggests. I find it sorta ironic that you created this 1780 thread as i am in the process of negotiating for one today now and have the very same questions you brought up!
The Wilton C1s you had were probably older pre 1970s and those weighed less at around the 70 pound range and the current c1 model at 80 pounds.The early Wilton vises have more hollow spots then the current models which is evident when you compare the weights.
drivesitfar
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Rusty: you are correct that i had older C1's. i know one i had was a 1945 and the other was a 1957 which i think both weighed less than 60 pounds. interesting that Wilton decided to add a bit of weight to the newer versions.
Verg: good luck on getting the 1780 and happy to help you try to find a fix for your C3.
Verg: good luck on getting the 1780 and happy to help you try to find a fix for your C3.
I will have to take the vise off from the base i will see what i can do if i get the 1780 no problem i am not really sure if i will be able to get a measurement off from my Sons they are funny about things like that on shop time where i work and i am on 1st and the kid is on 3rd i need to leave now so i will look into it
drivesitfar
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Tedsters: even a quick tape measure across on width and depth without taking the vise off the swivel might help Verg know if a 1780 or C2 swivel might work for the one he is missing on his C3. if not i'll get him mine when i'm back in town. sounds like Verg might have his own 1780 to measure soon so either way he should figure it out soon.
have a great day
have a great day
Drives
i thought my son told me his was an 8in its a 6in he got for free when buying a rollaway tool box, as far as the 1780 goes i will hear from him tomorrow if its a go if so i will be picking it up with a couple other items.
that C3 is a monster of a vise i would like to get my hands on one, I will help you with the measurements if i get it or even stop to inspect it
i thought my son told me his was an 8in its a 6in he got for free when buying a rollaway tool box, as far as the 1780 goes i will hear from him tomorrow if its a go if so i will be picking it up with a couple other items.
that C3 is a monster of a vise i would like to get my hands on one, I will help you with the measurements if i get it or even stop to inspect it
I have the 1765 and it's one hell of a nice vise. While it's not the "C" series, it's more than enough and both are made of 60,000 psi Ductile Iron (not 30,000 psi Cast Iron). I really enjoy the precision of it more than anything else.
Very nice score for a meager $200
Very nice score for a meager $200
Verg
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tedsters,
I hopefully will be picking up a 1780 to tomorrow as long as it passes my inspection. The pictures are not as nice as the ones you shared, but the price is most definitely right. Thank you very much for you offer to help out with measurements.
Thanks,
Verg
I hopefully will be picking up a 1780 to tomorrow as long as it passes my inspection. The pictures are not as nice as the ones you shared, but the price is most definitely right. Thank you very much for you offer to help out with measurements.
Thanks,
Verg
the guy never called i called him back tonight i ain't sure if i am getting it yet i don't know whats going on
wow that was weird i just got done typing and didn't get out of my chair yet and the guy called i will be picking the 1780 up saturday, Sweet
Verg
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People are funny about selling stuff sometimes; who knows. I defiantly hope he gets hold of you and we can share our new vise scores!
he called me when i was barley done posting on here i didn't here from him,
now how do i justify making two vise stops and a air brush and compressor stop if the wife rides along eeeek
Verg
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lol. I am sure you will figure it out. Matters of vise acquisition are of the utmost importance.
jakemac
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he called me when i was barley done posting on here i didn't here from him,
now how do i justify making two vise stops and a air brush and compressor stop if the wife rides along eeeek
Drop her off at a shoe store and tell her you're "just running out to grab her a latte". She'll never know you were gone.
Drop her off at a shoe store and tell her you're "just running out to grab her a latte". She'll never know you were gone.
I am gonna try that
and be quick about itjakemac
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It'll all fall apart if you forget to bring back the coffee.