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Wilton Cadets... Tell me what you know?

Brad54

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Just picked up an abused and neglected Wilton Cadet.
Besides being locked up, and having the screw plate's fasteners broken, missing a jaw and having those screws broken, it's in great shape! :scared:

It doesn't have the signature bullet-shaped end, it is squared off, and doesn't seem to have a provision for the end cap/cover.

Thoughts, opinions, information?

-Brad
 
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The original Tradesman, Wilton's second tier medium-duty bench vise. In my opinion they're better built than Tradesmans and I consider them to be as well built as their upper line. A well taken care of Cadet will never do you wrong. I've refinished a half dozen of them at least and I thought every one was a great vise. Sounds like yours could use some work but if you can get it all squared away it will be an excellent tool for you.
 
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The original Tradesman, Wilton's second tier medium-duty bench vise. In my opinion they're better built than Tradesmans and I consider them to be as well built as their upper line. A well taken care of Cadet will never do you wrong. I've refinished a half dozen of them at least and I thought every one was a great vise. Sounds like yours could use some work but if you can get it all squared away it will be an excellent tool for you.

This one is strictly a mercenary endeavor!
I've got a fairly large Parker that was my grandfather's, on a table he built after the war (using a piece of 1.25-inch plate from a Surplus half track!).
I've also got a 96 pound Reed on a table I built. Both are in excellent condition.

I always wanted a Wilton, and in the last two weeks I've somehow managed to amass FIVE of them! One (the 350) just needs to be wiped down with WD40, two (large and huge) need to simply be stripped and repainted, a fourth needs to have a former repair dressed, stripped and repainted, and this Tradesman needs a complete restoration.

From another thread on them, I guess I need to get them in sellable shape by the time income tax refunds go out.

-Brad
 

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This one is strictly a mercenary endeavor!
I've got a fairly large Parker that was my grandfather's, on a table he built after the war (using a piece of 1.25-inch plate from a Surplus half track!).
I've also got a 96 pound Reed on a table I built. Both are in excellent condition.

I always wanted a Wilton, and in the last two weeks I've somehow managed to amass FIVE of them! One (the 350) just needs to be wiped down with WD40, two (large and huge) need to simply be stripped and repainted, a fourth needs to have a former repair dressed, stripped and repainted, and this Tradesman needs a complete restoration.

From another thread on them, I guess I need to get them in sellable shape by the time income tax refunds go out.

-Brad

Bring them to the swap on Saturday! :thumbup:
 
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Brad54

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Whats the value of your time, unless fixing it is a fun/therapy thing.

I dunno... how much am I "losing" by sitting and watching TV at night after work?

My dad always made that same argument, and I just never understood it. What do you do after getting home from your job? If the answer is "go to my second job," then that's a fair viewpoint.

If it's "have a beer, eat some dinner, watch TV and go to bed," then it's a meaningless question.

-Brad
 

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While not the one who originally abused it I do admit to neglecting it for a couple years and allowing it to become almost covered in pine straw, all the time amongst Brads protests of "Man I can't believe you're just letting a Wilton lay under a pine tree like this" Glad it now has a caring home and may again proudly grace someones work table.
Took a few shots of it before it left. Hopefully someone will explain why the screw shaft just screws out without opening the jaws. In other words I guess I just don't understand the workings of a vice.
 

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I think cadets look cooler than standard bullets.
I guess it's the raised anvil area.
If I find a nice shape early 70's cadet around here I'll probably get rid of my bullet.
 
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While not the one who originally abused it I do admit to neglecting it for a couple years and allowing it to become almost covered in pine straw, all the time amongst Brads protests of "Man I can't believe you're just letting a Wilton lay under a pine tree like this" Glad it now has a caring home and may again proudly grace someones work table.
Took a few shots of it before it left. Hopefully someone will explain why the screw shaft just screws out without opening the jaws. In other words I guess I just don't understand the workings of a vice.

That horseshoe collar on the front of the screw is supposed to be bolted to the front jaw of the vise. As the threaded rod unscrews, it moves away from the nut inside the main body's housing. That collar rides over a recess on the end of the screw, and as the screw moves out, the collar pulls the movable jaw along with it.

This vise is locked up--it looks like someone tried to force it open, which first bent that collar, and then snapped the heads off the three screws that hold the collar to the jaw.

That part is a relatively easy fix... getting the static and dynamic jaws separated is what's going to be the hard part.

I stood it up on end, and filled the seam between the two with PB Blaster last night. Came out this morning and the level had gone down a very little, so hopefully its working its way down between the halves. A little heat from a torch on the outter body to expand it, putting it in the sun, and letting the cool of night contract everything, should hopefully work the oil down into the rust.

I've got the screw out, and the swivel base off already. (which also required heat to get the lock-downs off the bolts).

I'm just glad I don't have to look at it sitting in the flower bed anymore!!:lol_hitti

I may see about trying to remove the end cap, which would let me soak it from the back side as well. I'd rather not remove the cap if I don't have to, though.
-Brad
 
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I spent about 45 minutes today playing with it... got the main screw out and the end cap off.
This thing is locked together tighter than Sister Mary Black-and-Decker's knees!
 

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Hey man

funny thing is I just picked up a neglected cadet as well. Mine is overall pretty complete except I discovered that mine was broken and welded.

I'm looking for the body of the vise.

I eventually got mine unstuck. Let me know if you wanna sell yours for parts.

But for mine I built an electrolysis tank. then i used a pretty big pry bar and a deadblow to inch my jaws undone.

MJ
 
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I got everything off, but the static and dynamic jaw assemblies... I've stood it on end and have loaded the body up with some PB Blaster, letting it seep down into it.
I put it on the hydraulic press, but backed off, worried something was going to break/explode under the pressure.
I'll probably get a couple gallons of ATF and a 5-gallon bucket and throw it in there, forget about it for a good long time, and then give it another go with the press.

-Brad
 

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i did electrolysis bath (really easy to make)
Soaked for 48hrs

then I got a heavy prybar and just malleted it in til I got a little gap
and I kept working it millimeter by milimeter
and then some WD40 and more malleting

and I eventually got the jaws apart.

then I had some 2.5lb old school dumbell weights (don't ask why I still have them)

but they were perfect cuz of the rounded shoulder and once I got one in I added the prybar and then I got 2 weights, then prybar, then once I had a small gap I was able to get a 3rd weight etc...

I think the impacts of the mallet and impact "shock" helped more then the static pressure like a press or the big C-clamps I tried at first.

good luck
 
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