Spindle on my Dad’s old vise “Wilton 3 1/2 triple duty” need to be replaced as the threads are worn. Any idea where to find a replacement? Dad passed away at 95 and want to refurbish vise to attach to his old workbench for my son. Number stamped on bottom is 13-663
Wilton triple duty vise
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Shiftless
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That will be a great gift.
What makes you think the threads are worn? I have renovated lots of old vises and to me, those threads look OK. Have you done a lot of clean up work? I don’t see much evidence of lubrication.
Your son might just like that vise for nostalgia and not use it very much anyway. If you got a different main screw and handle, it then wouldn’t be quite original.
What makes you think the threads are worn? I have renovated lots of old vises and to me, those threads look OK. Have you done a lot of clean up work? I don’t see much evidence of lubrication.
Your son might just like that vise for nostalgia and not use it very much anyway. If you got a different main screw and handle, it then wouldn’t be quite original.
gleman
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Are you sure the spindle is worn out? I think @Shiftless is right. Did you check the pin and nut for the spindle?
Shiftless
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Good idea
Check that and get back to us. A family heirloom is a worthwhile vise to save.
RTM
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Offscreen right here. Unwind the screw fully, pull the slide out. The nut will be inside, and the pin will be behind it. Those Threads look fine, as noted.
Here’s what was under the slide. I see a pin not sure how to get it out. Is it a press fit or do I need to cut it and drill out the hole? Don’t see a nut, the piece that is labeled 6-664 just has a straight thru hole (not threaded). There was a small magnetic piece that came out of the vise when I removed the center screw in the base Shown in the picture below. Is this piece part of the mechanism or something maybe dad lost in the vise.
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Shiftless
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The big piece of cast iron that the screw is going through is the nut. It should be threaded so that the screw can gradually pass through while the handle is turned. The nut should be fixed in place inside the main vise body, the larger half of the vise that sits on the swivel base which is bolted to the workbench when in use.
I have rehabbed many vises from many different manufacturers including Wilton but I don’t have experience with that exact model. I can make an educated guess that there should be a steel pin that anchors that vise in place inside the vise body. I bet there is a hole in the bottom of the vise body so that a pin can be driven up from underneath or from the top downward to lock that nut in place.
You said that the piece marked 6-664 is not threaded and that it just has a smooth hole. Please check again. If the main screw passes through without turning, it isn’t threaded anymore, To me, that sounds unlikely.
Please post with any further questions.
BTW, as you guessed, that little magnet is most certainly not a vise part.
I have rehabbed many vises from many different manufacturers including Wilton but I don’t have experience with that exact model. I can make an educated guess that there should be a steel pin that anchors that vise in place inside the vise body. I bet there is a hole in the bottom of the vise body so that a pin can be driven up from underneath or from the top downward to lock that nut in place.
You said that the piece marked 6-664 is not threaded and that it just has a smooth hole. Please check again. If the main screw passes through without turning, it isn’t threaded anymore, To me, that sounds unlikely.
Please post with any further questions.
BTW, as you guessed, that little magnet is most certainly not a vise part.
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RTM
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I’m not certain, but I think something is really Fouled up here. In my world, the green arrow is pointing to the base of the vise, which was attached to your swivel base before you took it apart. The blue arrow is pointing to the nut, which should be attached inside the red piece. You pic shows it outside the base, implying the pin that should be holding it is missing.
That’s good and bad. It’s also good that magnet was not a pin through the screw, which would have been a new one to me.
With the nut outside the base, unscrewing the handle to open the jaw should leave the nut outside. Once fully separated, the nut should be pulled out the last little bit, and new pix taken.
1- looking into the cavity the nut came from, hopefully showing the groove the nut mounts in.
2- the sides of the nut, which should mate with the groove above
3- bottom of the swivel base, which should have a hole that fits into the notch on the nut to the right of the blue arrow.
That’s good and bad. It’s also good that magnet was not a pin through the screw, which would have been a new one to me.
With the nut outside the base, unscrewing the handle to open the jaw should leave the nut outside. Once fully separated, the nut should be pulled out the last little bit, and new pix taken.
1- looking into the cavity the nut came from, hopefully showing the groove the nut mounts in.
2- the sides of the nut, which should mate with the groove above
3- bottom of the swivel base, which should have a hole that fits into the notch on the nut to the right of the blue arrow.
RTM
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Looking back, I suspect this is caused by the nut not being fully seated in the base. You might be able to pull the nut back into it’s groove by just tightening the handle, but I would not do that without inspecting it per my notes above.
RTM
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Here is a poorly rotated picture of the dovetail groove in my Reed Vise.
RTM
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And a picture of the nut, mine is tall n skinny, yours appears more rectangular.
sorry, my other device is fouling up. The smooth edge of the nut rides in the groove shown upside down in the first pic, then gets pinned in place.
the pin is shown here
think it is tapped into place thru the middle radius hole, not perimeter or center holes here. (off to the right)
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