Wilton vise disassembly

[Bellaireroad]

Is there anything to know about removing The pins that hold in the nut? My 9400 has separate pins on each side, so they can't be driven through like a single pin. I don't want to get into this and find I can't get them out. Thanks


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[drivesitfar]

it's a bit tricky. maybe this drawing will help you. usually the guys just push the pins into the middle of the vise nut so the nut can be removed. then pull the pins out of the vise nut. on the vise repair 101 thread a few members have then put new pins in with threads after tapping the vise's dynamic and stripping the end of the screws to get into the vise nut.

 

[Bellaireroad]

Thank you, I did not know they could be driven in far enough to pull the nut out


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[drivesitfar]

BEE CAREFUL because not a BFH type job.

good luck and maybe read a few of the Wilton restorations in the Vise Repair 101 and main vise threads before you try.

 

[Bellaireroad]

I'll keep the 2 pound sledge in the toolbox


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[Bellaireroad]

Here's what I have with the dust cap removed. The nut is drilled on both sides to accept the pins. The arrow points to the hole in one side. Are the holes line bored, so that one pin will push out the other when it is driven in? I don't want to get the nut out and have to drill out the pins.

 

[drivesitfar]

i've yet to have a Wilton that i've taken apart myself with the 2 pins, but i've seen a couple members take them apart in person. one time was a PIA and the other time worked easy by pushing the pins in to the middle of the vise nut.

maybe the members who take Wilton bullet vises apart all the time will see your post if i kick it up or i'd post your question over on the vise repair 101 thread that gets a lot of views or the vise thread.

good luck

 

[dkroth]

Here's what I have with the dust cap removed. The nut is drilled on both sides to accept the pins. The arrow points to the hole in one side. Are the holes line bored, so that one pin will push out the other when it is driven in? I don't want to get the nut out and have to drill out the pins.

No, the holes are not aligned precisely!

Getting both pins out is a bit of trial and error, hit and miss, persistence and resourcefulness.

I've not converted any to cap screws, but that's on my to-do list for the next Wilton I work on.

 

[drivesitfar]

One member wrote this in the vise repair 101 thread.

Drivesitfar ---The ID of the nut tube doesn't permit both pins to be driven in. The holes are opposite each other, at a slight angle. I had to drive one in and use a hack saw to cut in half. They use a mild steel for the pin thank goodness. The wall thickness on the vise body was about 3/4'' to 7/8'' thick. Thats a long hole to tap, rather I had never did one that long. I had a friend turn on a lathe the set screw to .246, that was the dia of the 2 pins I removed. I got 1 1/4" set screws. With the head flush I shorten the screw so it was about 1/16'' shy of the inside of the nut tube. The OAL was about 1.09X.

also the same member made a nice post on post #258 of that thread and maybe this link will help you. good luck

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4237422#post4237422

 

[oldldh]

I may be late to the party...

But I thought these could help illuminate the dark inner workings of the Wilton clamper...

The Wilton vise collection belongs to "Zoomieport", and shows what can happen when you don't take your medication, or skip your Group Psychiatric Counseling appointment...

Be very careful, the vise addiction can become a real vice...

 

[Bellaireroad]

Thanks, found this video, and it clinches it for me. Not going there

 

[vertguy]

Guess I was lucky with mine as it had the 2 pin design and I simple tapped one pin into the other, then finished the first pin removal with a small punch.

 

[woodgeek]

My 9400 HD has two pins but they’re not lined up. I knocked them into the nut so that I could remove the nut from the vise. Now I can’t get the pins out of the vise. I should have left well enough alone and not tried to remove the nut from the vise.

 

[ricleh]

I've done about 30 Wilton vises and I always remove the pins and then tap the holes in the vise body and replace the pins with set screws. Sometimes the pins come out very easily and sometimes they are difficult.

 

[woodgeek]

I got the pins out using a long punch and my dead blow hammer. I was afraid they would bend but I guess they flexed enough to lever out of their holes. I plan on reusing the pins as opposed to tapping and “set-screwing” as I’m not planning on disassembling my vise anytime in the near or distant future.

 

[1982fxr]

It doesn't sound like it would work, but you can tap them from the inside outward with an Allen key and hammer.

 

[Shiftless]

I am firmly in the camp of “leave well enough alone”. Only once did I absolutely have to remove the nut from a Wilton bullet. I got the pin out by using a .250 punch. I guess I’m just lucky.
The rest of the time, to clean out ancient hardened grease and dirt, I just soak the vise in warm Simple Green and then flush everything out using a small electric pressure washer,

 

[woodgeek]

The only reason I wanted to remove the nut was to get at some rust that I couldn't reach with the nut in place -- and I have a morbid curiosity that demands I take things part as far as possible. But, if you don't need to remove the nut, I'd recommend leaving it be.

 

[drivesitfar]

We were just talking about Wilton Bullet vises vise nut and or pin removal on the vise repair 101 thread a couple weeks ago. I agree if you can remove the pins without busting the castings then taking a few extra minutes to tap and put in screw pins is a great upgrade. Or we also discussed how to safely put a cup of gas inside the bullet to clean out gunk dirt snd old grease then dry and re grease. I also like the crock pot with warmed up simple green. Glad you didn’t break it cause a lot of guys weren’t so lucky.

 

[woodgeek]

I guess I got lucky — not sure what I would have done if my casting broke.

I’m considering mixing purple degreaser and hot water to clean the castings. Then rinsing in clean, hot water, drying and wiping down with alcohol before painting.

 

[drivesitfar]

Lots of ways to clean up a vise and I’m guessing your method should work. Since this is an old thread maybe post sone if your pics and comments over on the vise repair 101 thread where there are maybe a few more eyes to help or comment if you might need any. It’s in vintage tools and I think it’s had over a million views. Good luck