Santa brought a new HTP Invertig 221 and now I want to make sure I wire it up correctly...don't want to break my new toy before I use it. It has a 3 wire cord, YELLOW/GREEN is ground, BLUE is hot and BROWN is hot. I bought a 50 amp rated plug and socket that says it is for a welder as opposed to a dryer. I got a double piggy back circuit breaker rated at 50 amps. It should be as simple as hooking one breaker to the BLUE and the other breaker to the BROWN and the GROUND to the GROUND buss in the box. All I need is a different circuit breaker as I did not get the correct one.
Wiring 220v Welder
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sberry
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What about the breaker isn't right?
As long as this machine has a 12 or better cord it can run on circuits to 50A, use a feed wire a size larger than the cord that comes on the machine.
As long as this machine has a 12 or better cord it can run on circuits to 50A, use a feed wire a size larger than the cord that comes on the machine.
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Trey T
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I would get the appropriate breaker for it first b4 firing it up as it is the safest thing to do. 30A breaker is appropriate for the 221DV version (40A for 221 version), assuming the appropriate wire thickness is installed.
We can't tell you if that's the right diagram for the input power and the website doesn't have manual posted.
We can't tell you if that's the right diagram for the input power and the website doesn't have manual posted.
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1Garageman
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I just had to look up this welder and see what it was like. Nice present from Santa.
Here is the webpage to it.
Here is the webpage to it.
1Garageman
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See if this diagram helps you guys out any. Sorry if it doesn't.
sberry
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An owners manual has the "electrical service guide", that pic s a spec sheet, somewhat helpful but the guide lists the wire and breakers. If this machine has a 12 cord and or comes with a 50 A plug it can be used on circuits to 50A which is a common welder circuit. Right off the top of my head I am not aware of any units that are 240V that can't be.
It will certainly run from a 30. It may allow as low as a 12 wire but no one really thinks that minimum is a great idea but 10 and a breaker from 30 to 50 is fine.
It will certainly run from a 30. It may allow as low as a 12 wire but no one really thinks that minimum is a great idea but 10 and a breaker from 30 to 50 is fine.
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Aceman
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So what's the question?
More of a sanity check really. The manual says it will draw 44 amps when welding stick at 200 amps. So the 50 amp breaker should be fine. The machine power cord has 10 gauge and I am using 6 gauge from the breaker to the outlet which will only be 2 feet away from the box.
Aceman
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Sounds fine.
jomobco
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Invertig 221 DV
Input Voltage 220 Volts 230 Volts 115 Volts
Input Amperage Tig 36 amps @ 220 amps 26 amps @ 220 Amps 30 amps @ 130 amps
Taken from here: http://www.usaweld.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=70221-12.5
HTP will walk you through the wiring if needed. I'd get a 40 amp plug and breaker. Locking if possible. I hope you like this beauty as much as I've enjoyed my MIG and Plasma from HTP.
Input Voltage 220 Volts 230 Volts 115 Volts
Input Amperage Tig 36 amps @ 220 amps 26 amps @ 220 Amps 30 amps @ 130 amps
Taken from here: http://www.usaweld.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=70221-12.5
HTP will walk you through the wiring if needed. I'd get a 40 amp plug and breaker. Locking if possible. I hope you like this beauty as much as I've enjoyed my MIG and Plasma from HTP.
machine_punk
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Sorry...but this is a little off post...
I have been looking for a unit similar to that, since I learned to use one at a metalworking course.
Are you going to be using that with thin sheet metal (18 gauge cold rolled steel)? If so, could you post how well it does (any problems with not going low enough in output to do very thin steel)? Thanks.
I have been looking for a unit similar to that, since I learned to use one at a metalworking course.
Are you going to be using that with thin sheet metal (18 gauge cold rolled steel)? If so, could you post how well it does (any problems with not going low enough in output to do very thin steel)? Thanks.
Trey T
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18 guage steel sheet metal can be welded by MIG through spot welding method. Any decent TIG can easily handle it to weld continuously.
machine_punk
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Which is exactly what my question to the OP, or anyone with actual experience with this unit, was...is this particular machine a 'decent' TIG machine for welding thin sheet metal. I understand perfectly which processes do what, I need to know if this machine would fit my TIG needs (thin sheet metal). Any actual help with answering that question would be appreciated.
I did a lot of working looking for a nice AC/DC machine. My preference is the Thermal Arc 185. I got one used with tig and stick rigging for $1,300. It's an inverter machine with pulse capability. I also looked at the Miller Diversion 180, but since the lead is not removable to go to watercooled in the future I decided on the TA185. Welding Web forums has many people who have been happy with the TA 185. HTP is also a good machine, but for affordable and AC/DC my preference was on the TA 185.
Sorry to get off topic.....
Sorry to get off topic.....
I have it hooked up and powered on. I am not an expert welder yet and am going to school at Washtenaw Community College. I have done a little tig last semester, but this semester I will be in tig class twice a week. I am sure the HTP will do just fine on the thin stuff, it is very adjustable. Just call HTP and ask for Jeff if you have any questions.