Wise vintage Phoenix

[Cleverson e Silva]

Does anyone have any information? Thanks.

 

[RTM]

Phoenix / Phoenix Hardware Mfg. Co., 49 Illinois, Buffalo, NY / ca. 1895-1917 / wrench, vise / patent 320224 Jun 16 1885 George A. Colton / http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=11502 / https://datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?number=320224&typeCode=0 /

Guessing these guys

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Never say never, but that vise doesn't look anything like the other examples of Phoenix vises that have been found and shown on the mega thread. It looks way too modern, for starters. None of them are marked like that, either. They have the size on the front of the spindle and the patent marking on the stationary tower around the entryway for the slide. And there's something peculiar about that "X" that makes me want to say, "I am striking out looking..." for information on this vise.

 

[1982fxr]

Is that a 2 liter coke bottle?

 

[RTM]

Never say never, but that vise doesn't look anything like the other examples of Phoenix vises that have been found and shown on the mega thread. It looks way too modern, for starters. None of them are marked like that, either. They have the size on the front of the spindle and the patent marking on the stationary tower around the entryway for the slide. And there's something peculiar about that "X" that makes me want to say, "I am striking out looking..." for information

I was thinking a Chinese knock off looking at the number markings. No idea where the OP is from, whether in their possession, or seen out and about. Coke bottle seems to be marked in English.

The running of the O E together I’ve seen elsewhere, but can’t recall it at the moment. So many mysteries to ponder.

The name was used in publications, spelled that way, back in 1893 to 1898




From 1897 had to manually scrol to p 237




So maybe these guys from Taunton Mass, from this 1886 source

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The running of the O E together I’ve seen elsewhere, but can’t recall it at the moment.

The name was used in publications,

Yes. Excerpts posted all over the mega vises thread, with several examples of the vises. The vises are not marked that way, though.

 

[Shiftless]

Yes. Excerpts posted all over the mega vises thread, with several examples of the vises. The vises are not marked that way, though.

i agree
Here is a catalog page posted by KMScott 14 years ago on that mega vise thread.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

It looks like it might be a classic export knockoff.

Was this joke...

And there's something peculiar about that "X" that makes me want to say, "I am striking out looking..." for information on this vise.

...too subtle, or are there no other baseball junkies out there who have ever kept "the book" during a game?

 

[Shiftless]

And there's something peculiar about that "X" that makes me want to say, "I am striking out looking..." for information on this vise.

You’re right Lugz… too obscure a reference for most of us.

 

[RTM]

Was this joke...
...too subtle, or are there no other baseball junkies out there who have ever kept "the book" during a game?

Way too subtle for an early mornings on a vacation day

 

[Private Lugnutz]

...too obscure a reference for most of us.

Most? With our older demographic? Has the national pastime really fallen that far off the map?! I'm tempted to start a Who knows what a "backwards K" means? survey!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I think it's hilarious whoever made it didn't have an X die and just reversed a K.

 

[RTM]

Or poor (doctors) handwriting on the form to make the mold.

 

[Cleverson e Silva]

Is that a 2 liter coke bottle?

yes

 

[Cleverson e Silva]

I was thinking a Chinese knock off looking at the number markings. No idea where the OP is from, whether in their possession, or seen out and about. Coke bottle seems to be marked in English.

The running of the O E together I’ve seen elsewhere, but can’t recall it at the moment. So many mysteries to ponder.

The name was used in publications, spelled that way, back in 1893 to 1898

Brazil.

I was thinking a Chinese knock off looking at the number markings. No idea where the OP is from, whether in their possession, or seen out and about. Coke bottle seems to be marked in English.

The running of the O E together I’ve seen elsewhere, but can’t recall it at the moment. So many mysteries to ponder.

The name was used in publications, spelled that way, back in 1893 to 1898




From 1897 had to manually scrol to p 237




So maybe these guys from Taunton Mass, from this 1886 source

Yes. Excerpts posted all over the mega vises thread, with several examples of the vises. The vises are not marked that way, though.

Yes. Excerpts posted all over the mega vises thread, with several examples of the vises. The vises are not marked that way, though.

 

[Cleverson e Silva]

I really don't know the piece. I want to remove all the paint to check the details and lettering.

 

[Cleverson e Silva]

I bought this vise solely to maintain a relationship with the seller, after I learned about Phoenix vises. My goal is this Wilton vise. According to him, the vises were acquired in Uruguay.
Regarding the Phoenix, I need to evaluate it.

 

[Cleverson e Silva]

The design is really modern. I found an apparently original one being sold here in 2024.