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Wobble extensions - Should I buy a whole set?

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Just bought my first wobble extension, a Snap On 3 inch 3/8 drive. Haven't even used it yet, but I'm already wondering if I should buy a whole set. That's kind of expensive, so I may just get a few. If I go that route, which sizes should I get? Short ones so I can attach them to my regular long ones?
 
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I have a 3/8" drive one that is 6" long that seems to cover most of what I need. I bought this one used and like it. I can't afford a whole set, so far this one has covered anything I needed so far.
 

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I have a 3", 6", and a 8". I seem to get bye just fine with these sizes. From snap on it isn't any cheaper to buy the set, so I have been buying them one at a time. I will buy the 11" next. The 8" was the last one I bought, and I got the wobble+ , so you can use it as a wobble, or a regular extention. It seems to work well.
 

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Maybe buy some cheap imports (HF) to use on a trial basis. If you find them useful as I suspect you will, then you can make the upgrade with confidence.
 

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Do you not stack extensions for needed length. If in a jam you can just use the 3" at the end of the stack and a regular extension for added length.

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Using the cheap **** first makes you appreciate the good stuff even more. Try buying used in the classifieds. Or if you can, wait for one of those deals.
 

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I really only use snap on & SK wobble extension, and not normal extensions. The snap on ones are nice because they loks in the regular postion too. I think I have about 6 of various lengths and use all of them all the time. Btw, stacking extension changes the torque at the fastener.
 

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....stacking extension changes the torque at the fastener.
really? :headscrat
Following that logic, wouldn't car companies want as short of a driveshaft as possible in order to put as much torque to the wheels?

Back on topic: I've got a couple Craftsman short 3/8" wobbles that are great. If I need longer, I just add a regular extension on the back side. I'll pick up a 1/4" and 1/2" if I ever find a good deal on them.
 
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Maybe someone could provide some commentary a little more helpful about why you shouldn't stack extensions, and why it may or may not change torque at the fastener?

My armchair metallurgy hypothesizes that it just adds points to fail if you're really putting a lot of grunt onto a stuck fastener.

I can see how it would add extra slop lengthwise and in the twisting axis to stack extensions, but once you put a load on the ratchet it shouldn't have anymore elasticity than one extension of the same length (give or take an academic amount due to differences in rigidity of shafts of differing lengths). Any foundry chemists know the long and short of it?

Back on the original subject, I've put off getting wobble extensions because I have flex sockets (with the universal joint built right in). Is there enough of a difference to warrant both in your toolbox? I was always hesitant about the limited surface contact of the wobble end on the inside of the socket handling all the force I can apply to it. Same reason I don't use ball-end Allen wrenches.
 

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Maybe someone could provide some commentary a little more helpful about why you shouldn't stack extensions, and why it may or may not change torque at the fastener?

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Sledge;

If you apply a torque moment to one end of a shaft that torque moment has to be offset by an equal and opposite torque moment or both ends of the shaft will spin/turn. If the shaft winds up like a spring then you have put energy into the shaft but the torque moment on each end is the same once the turning stops. If you release the torque at the drive end the shaft may unwind but now you are talking energy and power. The power you put into the end of a shaft may not be all transfered to the fastener but the torque applied to the tool will be seen by the fastener. Torque is fixed measurement foot/pounds or whatever system of units you work in. Power or work is ft/lbs per unit of time commonly horse power.

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Start with 6 inch 3/8 drive as a usefuf one. I have found a 3 or 6 inch 1/4 drive extension to be useful also. The 1/2 drive extension has not been used as much. Got them years ago when Snap on first came out with them.

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I use snap-on Wobble Plus extensions. It is nice to be able to use them as regular extensions and change immediately to wobble if needed by just pulling the socket out a little further. I also hate stacking extensions because it creates too much slop and is more of a PITA to use than having an extension that is long enough in the first place.
 

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I use snap-on Wobble Plus extensions. It is nice to be able to use them as regular extensions and change immediately to wobble if needed by just pulling the socket out a little further. I also hate stacking extensions because it creates too much slop and is more of a PITA to use than having an extension that is long enough in the first place.

Just my experience but i've found those to be completely useless. Hit an obstruction the right way or put too much force on it and it snaps the socket straight. Annoyed the hell out of me.
 
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Just my experience but i've found those to be completely useless. Hit an obstruction the right way or put too much force on it and it snaps the socket straight. Annoyed the hell out of me.

That's weird I haven't run into that yet.
 

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I have a couple older 3/8 dr S/O one`s, usually just use the 3 or 6 in. I also have a stubby one, rarely used. They are handy however, never used a 1/4 one, and don`t think a 1/2 dr would be of much use.
 

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I bought a set of HF 1/2" wobble impact extensions on an impulse one day. They've come in much handier than I expected they would. If I ever have a problem with them, I would have no hesitation replacing them with a better brand. I know I'll use them now.
 

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I'd think there is one situation where using at least a *longer* extension, if not stacked extensions, could reduce effectiveness, if not torque. If you used one, or a combination of, extensions that had a significant amount of give in the metallurgy (think spring steel - like a torsion bar), you could turn all you like (wasting effort in the process), the bar would absorb your effort as potential energy and, until you reached a certain point where enough energy was transferred to the fastener to break it loose, it would simply release all that energy back to the ratchet if you let go.

Not torque, but work, put into the system and stored as potential energy, and not being transferred to the fastener.

The other idea, though it's really insignificant, is that the mass of more extensions (greater than the mass of a single extension of the same total length) has a greater moment of inertia to be overcome, which would be considered a parasitic loss, like if you replaced a carbon fiber driveshaft with one made of cast iron. This is really an insignificant difference for socket extensions, though.

This is all moot, no stack of extensions that could still be reasonably put to use would have that much give before transferring the energy to the fastener. Even if the chrome vanadium steel could absorb the energy, it would crack at the square drive edges long before twisting. Most of us have probably been witness to this more than once. Which is why I'd say you wouldn't want to stack extensions due to the increase in points of failure. If you had to hoist a load by a chain, would you rather have to worry about two links to have fail or two hundred? A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.

I think Sunex makes some 2- and 3-foot impact extensions in 3/8 and 1/2"-drive for transmission work. Then again it might be Grey Pneumatic, but I remember seeing them and thinking I'll probably wish I had those oddball pieces someday.
 

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I just bought a new snap on wobble plus set and it came with a new f80! Its hard to beat a new snap on rat for free! It was the 6 pc set. He didnt have it on the truck so i havent even got to use them yet.... Just a thought!
 

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I bought the SK 4 piece set (3/8 drive) a while back and I love 'em. I've got a 5" long ½" drive Sunex impact one that covers pretty much all of my needs on the impact side of things nicely.

I usually go for the wobbles right off the bat now as a matter of convenience. I don't think I've used a 3/8" U-joint at all since I bought the wobbles.
 

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I just bought a new snap on wobble plus set and it came with a new f80! Its hard to beat a new snap on rat for free! It was the 6 pc set. He didnt have it on the truck so i havent even got to use them yet.... Just a thought!

I too took advantage of this weekly deal from my SO man. I ended up going with the regular extensions though. The free ratchet is awesome considering I needed one to match my long handle anyway.

I've used the wobble plus extensions before and I liked them. As some commented though there are spots where they're a pain and snap to regular extension mode inadvertently.
 
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Just bought my first wobble extension, a Snap On 3 inch 3/8 drive. Haven't even used it yet, but I'm already wondering if I should buy a whole set. That's kind of expensive, so I may just get a few. If I go that route, which sizes should I get? Short ones so I can attach them to my regular long ones?

I have the whole set. I don't always use them but when I do need them, its handy.:thumbup:
 

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I use snap-on Wobble Plus extensions. It is nice to be able to use them as regular extensions and change immediately to wobble if needed by just pulling the socket out a little further. I also hate stacking extensions because it creates too much slop and is more of a PITA to use than having an extension that is long enough in the first place.

I'm kind of looking to see how you folks like those extensions. I don't have any wobble extensions and was thinking of adding some. Since I only have two 3 inch 3/8 drive extensions I was thinking of getting the set of the Snap On dual use (wobble and regular) extensions to keep in my tool box for providing the full array of 3/8 drive extensions without having to buy two extensions in each size (1 wobble, 1 regular). Does my plan seem reasonable for a shadetree guy?
 

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Btw, stacking extension changes the torque at the fastener.

That myth needs to die just like the screw driver myth recently did.


Your stacking extension experience only works with an impact. Your hand applies smooth continuous torque. An impact is like using a sledge hammer. high peak torque but only for a moment and lets go. Those hammer strikes are absorbed and reduced by multiple extensions. Smooth continuous torque (never letting go) does not do that.

It's like pushing a car vs ramming into a car repeatedly.
 

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That myth needs to die just like the screw driver myth recently did.


Your stacking extension experience only works with an impact. Your hand applies smooth continuous torque. An impact is like using a sledge hammer. high peak torque but only for a moment and lets go. Those hammer strikes are absorbed and reduced by multiple extensions. Smooth continuous torque (never letting go) does not do that.

It's like pushing a car vs ramming into a car repeatedly.

What if I like to karate chop my ratchets when installing fasteners? :lol_hitti
 
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