Wolverine system in larger garage DIY

[katit]

Any helpful tips? It's 35x38 space. Of course Ideally I want to do it all in one shot, but is it feasible? I would have a contractor helping, so 2 people.

I have old garage with same coating for over 13 years going STRONG and I am happy to find company still in business offering this product.
While coating is very good I did made some mistakes which ideally I don't want to make this time

1. I didn't have enough material, and it was mostly because I had "brum finish" on a floor and it tool more material than planned.
2. Flakes wasn't covered flat with material, so I have some texture.

This time I have new flat floor (which we will grind), and I really want to get uniform smooth surface. Meaning flakes have to be covered completely with solids.

Last time I used roller only. Should I really work with squeedge? Bottom line, any practical tips on application please... I'd gladly let pro handle this for me (in STL area) but just don't know anyone I can trust..

 

[FJ4FUN]

Any helpful tips? It's 35x38 space. Of course Ideally I want to do it all in one shot, but is it feasible? I would have a contractor helping, so 2 people.

I have old garage with same coating for over 13 years going STRONG and I am happy to find company still in business offering this product.
While coating is very good I did made some mistakes which ideally I don't want to make this time

1. I didn't have enough material, and it was mostly because I had "brum finish" on a floor and it tool more material than planned.
2. Flakes wasn't covered flat with material, so I have some texture.

This time I have new flat floor (which we will grind), and I really want to get uniform smooth surface. Meaning flakes have to be covered completely with solids.

Last time I used roller only. Should I really work with squeedge? Bottom line, any practical tips on application please... I'd gladly let pro handle this for me (in STL area) but just don't know anyone I can trust..

Welcome back Katit! 13 years ago means you likely had the pleasure of working with my brother Fred.
1400sf is completely doable with two people (especially given that you've done this once before) but a third helper would really make life easier.
Assuming that you are planning on a full broadcast Chip Floor here are a few tips right off the bat:
* Do get one of our flat blade squeegees. You'll be using this twice, 1st for the BondTite 1101 primer and 2nd. for the DecoFX 1110 flood coat. Assuming the floor is properly ground and thirsty, the flat squeegee will help tremendously in distributing the BondTite quickly and evenly.
* For a 1400sf project like yours use 3/8" nap 18" rollers for back rolling the the Bondtite-primer and LiquaTile-body, and DecoFX-flood coats. I recommend 1/4" nap 9" roller setups for the EnduraShield-clear. Urethanes are a bit tricky to put down evenly with 18" gear and you'll have much more working time with the EnduraShield so the 9" equipment will give you better control and a better overall finish when done correctly IMHO.
* Do get one of our notched squeegees for the LiquaTile-body coat.
* Get one (or two) dedicated floor scrapers or a couple of clean square nosed shovels and scrape the DecoFlakes 1st going north/south then 2nd going east/west. Do not be shy with applying pressure! Sweep, Vacuum, Blow (with an electric leaf blower) then walk the floor checking for any rough spots which may need additional scraping.
* Get more details here: Wolverine Coatings' Chip Floor System
* DO make sure to use our GJ7 promo code for the Garage Journal member discount!
* And, finally, call me direct to discuss this all, and more, in greater detail... Looking forward to helping you out!

-Bert

 

[Shea]

Contact @FJ4FUN from AlphaGarage. He is the Wolverine Coatings vendor for DIY applicators and can walk you through the steps for a successful application using two people.

Edit... Ha, he beat me to it.

 

[katit]

Welcome back Katit! 13 years ago means you likely had the pleasure of working with my brother Fred.
1400sf is completely doable with two people (especially given that you've done this once before) but a third helper would really make life easier.
Assuming that you are planning on a full broadcast Chip Floor here are a few tips right off the bat:
* Do get one of our flat blade squeegees. You'll be using this twice, 1st for the BondTite 1101 primer and 2nd. for the DecoFX 1110 flood coat. Assuming the floor is properly ground and thirsty, the flat squeegee will help tremendously in distributing the BondTite quickly and evenly.
* For a 1400sf project like yours use 3/8" nap 18" rollers for back rolling the the Bondtite-primer and LiquaTile-body, and DecoFX-flood coats. I recommend 1/4" nap 9" roller setups for the EnduraShield-clear. Urethanes are a bit tricky to put down evenly with 18" gear and you'll have much more working time with the EnduraShield so the 9" equipment will give you better control and a better overall finish when done correctly IMHO.
* Do get one of our notched squeegees for the LiquaTile-body coat.
* Get one (or two) dedicated floor scrapers or a couple of clean square nosed shovels and scrape the DecoFlakes 1st going north/south then 2nd going east/west. Do not be shy with applying pressure! Sweep, Vacuum, Blow (with an electric leaf blower) then walk the floor checking for any rough spots which may need additional scraping.
* Get more details here: Wolverine Coatings' Chip Floor System
* DO make sure to use our GJ7 promo code for the Garage Journal member discount!
* And, finally, call me direct to discuss this all, and more, in greater detail... Looking forward to helping you out!

-Bert

Yep, it was Fred. April 2010 Invoice #80840 lol
Will be in touch, now I know exactly which floor I am going with..

 

[FJ4FUN]

For the benefit of the group and because I forgot to note this earlier... when you say:
"This time I have new flat floor (which we will grind), and I really want to get uniform smooth surface. Meaning flakes have to be covered completely with solids." and what you mean is, I really want a super flat, sheet of glass, finish with out any texture. The best way to achieve this is by going with a double broadcast of DecoFlake. You would do a normal Chip Floor but when you get to the DecoFlake step you would scrape well, apply 1.5x the quantity of the clear epoxy flood coat (+/-15mil) and broadcast another round of DecoFlake to rejection. When fully cured, scrape well and then sand smooth with a 175rpm floor maintainer w/ 120grit sanding screens. Apply another 10mil of Clear epoxy followed by a careful application of EnduraShield hybrid urethane. This will get you a showroom floor that will forever drive you crazy with chasing dust!!

 

[katit]

For the benefit of the group and because I forgot to note this earlier... when you say:
"This time I have new flat floor (which we will grind), and I really want to get uniform smooth surface. Meaning flakes have to be covered completely with solids." and what you mean is, I really want a super flat, sheet of glass, finish with out any texture. The best way to achieve this is by going with a double broadcast of DecoFlake. You would do a normal Chip Floor but when you get to the DecoFlake step you would scrape well, apply 1.5x the quantity of the clear epoxy flood coat (+/-15mil) and broadcast another round of DecoFlake to rejection. When fully cured, scrape well and then sand smooth with a 175rpm floor maintainer w/ 120grit sanding screens. Apply another 10mil of Clear epoxy followed by a careful application of EnduraShield hybrid urethane. This will get you a showroom floor that will forever drive you crazy with chasing dust!!

Ouch.. Yep, this is what I meant. I guess when I get closer I will reach out to you for list of materials
It's freaking "logistics" now with getting everything out of garage, chasing weather, and free time. I will need to finish everything else first as a floor going to be last one. Need lights so I can work during night if needed.

 

[katit]

Another question.. Should we mix product in steps and apply? I guess thats the only way, just wanted to make sure. With this area.. Apply area, backroll, and mix and apply second batch right away. 3rd person would be mixing while 2 back-ralling?

 

[FJ4FUN]

Another question.. Should we mix product in steps and apply? I guess thats the only way, just wanted to make sure. With this area.. Apply area, backroll, and mix and apply second batch right away. 3rd person would be mixing while 2 back-ralling?

Yep. Divide the floor into equal parts based on the quantity of kits. Example: for your 1,330sf we would be recommending (2x) 3gal kits of BondTite 1101-primer, once the floor is prepped go out and divide your floor into two equal sections (most people will place painter's tape on the walls) mix the 1st kit and immediately pour all the contents into the 1st section, do a gross distribution with the flat squeegee with a second helper back rolling behind you. Once done with the squeegee, switch to a roller setup and assist with back rolling. As the two of you approach completion of the section the 3rd helper (preferrably you...) begins mixing the next batch. This is what's meant by always applying to a "wet edge". In your case the next layer would be (4x) 3 gal kits of the LiquaTile-body coat so now you'd divide the floor into four equal sections and repeat just like the primer coat.

 

[katit]

* And, finally, call me direct to discuss this all, and more, in greater detail... Looking forward to helping you out!

-Bert

Do I just call phone number on website?

Just getting garage drywalled now and question/dilemma..

Weather is getting cold here in STL. What to do with epoxy? Wait until March?

What is the common way to apply, whole slab or up to the door? There is about 6-8 in of slab outside of garage doors.