Wood burning stove location

[Clubber]

I was given an older but very solid wood burning stove the other day and I'm thinking of installing it for my 32'x32' with cathedral ceilings, my building frame is 5"x 5" 1/4" steel tubes with 11' to beginning of roof pitch. I am wondering about installing outside vs. inside? Outside seems less fire hazard and saves floor space, inside I get to stay warmer for reloading the stove. I will check with my insurance agent and local codes before install. I've never installed one nor used one before and my shop doesn't have any other heat source presently. Looking for advice on where to put it (inside or out), type of chimney pipe, other user experiences. I bought the house with this building and am in the process of organizing and refurbishing it. I added the loft area and spiral staircase and I'm going to insulate a wall at a time as money allows. It does get cold in the winter and I'm less inclined to go out there so little by little.

 

[930dreamer]

Are you talking about installing the stove outside or running the pipe outside?

 

[Clubber]

Installing the stove outside

 

[930dreamer]

How would it heat the shop if It was outside?

 

[trbomax]

First thing I would do is build a sheet metal jacket around that guy.It will double the heat output/ Get a used furnace blower and put on the back, cut 3 or 4 8" to's on it with elbos to direct the heat. Mine is about 1/2 way down one wall and the blower is aimed straight out and both right and left. My building is 28x72. You will need a couple cieling fans too,just get the cheapos at lowes on sale for $29. They ar 60" and work well.

 

[Clubber]

How would it heat the shop if It was outside?

It has 2 holes on top, one for chimney and one for heat vent.

 

[trbomax]

It has 2 holes on top, one for chimney and one for heat vent.

So it IS jacketed?

 

[Clubber]

First thing I would do is build a sheet metal jacket around that guy.It will double the heat output/ Get a used furnace blower and put on the back, cut 3 or 4 8" to's on it with elbos to direct the heat. Mine is about 1/2 way down one wall and the blower is aimed straight out and both right and left. My building is 28x72. You will need a couple cieling fans too,just get the cheapos at lowes on sale for $29. They ar 60" and work well.[/QUOTE

Sheet metal sounds good, how high up did you put the vents then? Ceiling fans sound good as well. Thanks!

 

[930dreamer]

It has 2 holes on top, one for chimney and one for heat vent.

I'd want all the radiant heat the stove could provide while inside the shop. I do see the advantages of a stove outside i.e. smoke smell, clean up etc.

 

[Clubber]

So it IS jacketed?

Not sure what jacketed means but here's a pic of the top.

 

[trbomax]

First thing I would do is build a sheet metal jacket around that guy.It will double the heat output/ Get a used furnace blower and put on the back, cut 3 or 4 8" to's on it with elbos to direct the heat. Mine is about 1/2 way down one wall and the blower is aimed straight out and both right and left. My building is 28x72. You will need a couple cieling fans too,just get the cheapos at lowes on sale for $29. They ar 60" and work well.[/QUOTE

Sheet metal sounds good, how high up did you put the vents then? Ceiling fans sound good as well. Thanks!

The furnace in my old shop I put the side to's high and close to the front because this will be the hottest area. The top vent was front and center. The furnace I have now is a comercial unit and has a plenum on top at the front,but I put the to's on the sides and front,see pic.

 

[trbomax]

Not sure what jacketed means but here's a pic of the top.

A jacket is an encloseure around the firebox.It contains the radiated heat and with a blower you can ten blow the hot air where you want/need it instead of haveing it just heat the area around the stove. It also allows for less clearence to combustibles (walls).

edit) I also have an osilateing fan on a stand that stands behind the furnace,to pick up and direct additional heat that is radiated thru the outer jacket.

 

[Clubber]

trbomax your setup is definitely nicer than mine is going to be, but I do appreciate the advise. I noticed your heat vents are a flexible material, is that what I would want to use as well, what is it? Any advise to blowers?

 

[930dreamer]

The pic in post #10 show a fan doesn't it?

 

[trbomax]

The pic in post #10 show a fan doesn't it?

It looks like it.You just need a small furnace blower,preferably direct drive and from a furnace less than 80k input. Start out running it at the no 2 speed,to fast and it will move air faster than the heat willtransfer,too slow and the whole rig will run too hot.It takes some tuneing. I used a stick thermeter in the outlet to get 140 ish discharge air when the burner is at temp and running wide open (air vents to firebox wide open and stack at around 800.) Your not going to want to run that hard,but you must tune the system so that nothing "bad" can happen if you loose control!

 

[Clubber]

I'll start to look for a direct drive blower then. If I put it outside and "house" it (frame it in, sheet metal on the outside, insulate and sheet metal on the inside), slanted roof and piped it in, will I loose a lot of heat? Or should I just put it inside so as not to loose valuable heat? I like the idea of outside, less messy, no lost floor space, etc. But will do what I need to.

 

[930dreamer]

Post some pics of the fan/blower side of the stove.

 

[Clubber]

Post some pics of the fan/blower side of the stove.

It's a Dayton 3M778D blower motor

 

[930dreamer]

I'd find out if this woodstove was designed to operate outside or not. Is there a name on the stove?

 

[Clubber]

Can't find a name, the previous owner had it outside and use a pipe to blow the heat into a mobile home lol, I doubt it was code though. It was a small lake lot with a trailer and this was his heat source.

 

[432bullet]

Outside for sure, Inside = Insurance problems.

 

[trbomax]

So it has a jacket,blower and to's. If you put it outside it will have to be in a building of some sort. yes you will loose some heat and you will have to duct return air to the blower intake from your shop. You will save some $ on your chiminy though.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Go to WWW.HEARTH.COM and pots the same question there.

If it is truly a "stove" then it is illogical to install it outside.

With high ceilings, ceiling fans help a lot.

 

[Clubber]

I did find the name it's a Peacock Stove Works Inc. tested 1979. The company is out of Baldwin, MI that's all the info I've found so far. I'll check www.hearth.com as well. I'm willing to put it inside, just thought the last guy had it out and with a shed to cover it and send and return pipes, it might be ok outside the main shop. Thanks for all the responses, I appreciate GJ and those who are willing to pass along their knowledge.

 

[Highbeam]

Sure looks like what would be called a wood furnace. Already jacketed and set up to heat air to be blown around the home.

A real and proper wood stove, even a new furnace, is cheap. I just don't understand spending much money getting that "thing" working.

 

[trbomax]

Here is a better shot of my instalation.You were asking about the black ducts or pipes,they are the supply ducts for my 2 clean rooms.They are connected to the 95% 40k furnace on the right,and do not have any connection to the wood/coal burner that heats the high bay area.

 

[Clubber]

Here is a better shot of my instalation.You were asking about the black ducts or pipes,they are the supply ducts for my 2 clean rooms.They are connected to the 95% 40k furnace on the right,and do not have any connection to the wood/coal burner that heats the high bay area.

Thanks, that makes more sense to me now.