wood burning stove

[Scottishross]

i have just brought a wood burning stove. I cut a tree down split the wood and stuck it in (i know i should have waited till they dry)

its really smoky is it because the wood is wet
i have smoked bombed it and all the smoke went away ok

so im at a lost to why its smoky

 

[trbomax]

First off,do not burn wet wood,get dry wood and then if your flue is done correctly it will only smoke untill it gets going,cut back the draft to 25% or so and it should cruise w/o smoke.

 

[Scottishross]

cheers mate

will need to go and buy some

cheers mate

 

[BADSIX]

are you talking smoke out the stack or out the door when you open it? and yes you need dry wood. i'll sometimes get a hot fire going and put a couple of dry pieces in and a wet one on top if i have any wet wood.

 

[Scottishross]

when the door is shut its fine and when i open the door white smoke comes out also if i leave it open it fills the roof of white smoke

 

[SGKent]

green wood will always be smoky unless you are in the middle of a hot summer drought.

 

[kbs2244]

You need a better draw.
Look into how a stove exhaust should be set up.
It is a science.

 

[Scottishross]

i fitted a flue liner 4 1/2 inch i think ,see if i change it to solid tube will that draw better

 

[Boilerhouse]

Fire wood is best when split, properly stacked and left to dry for 6 months to one year.

 

[Scottishross]

i changed the flue to a liner because the pipework was all wrong fitting wise

 

[nehog]

There is so much wrong in that second picture that I don't know where to start...

First, wrong type of pipe, or so it appears. I doubt that is rated for a wood stove.

Second, clearances are wrong. Wood stack is too close. Stuff on other side is too close. I think it is too close to the wall as well.

Did you have it inspected after you installed it? If not you should...

 

[trbomax]

There is so much wrong in that second picture that I don't know where to start...

First, wrong type of pipe, or so it appears. I doubt that is rated for a wood stove.

Second, clearances are wrong. Wood stack is too close. Stuff on other side is too close. I think it is too close to the wall as well.

Did you have it inspected after you installed it? If not you should...

x2, its a good thing you didnt get a hot fire,and please dont light another one with that set up

 

[bob15]

The wood stack isn't a huge concern. The wood won't start on its own being that close. The plastic and junk on the right hand side is more of a concern than the wood pile. When I bring wood in everyday (been burning wood for sole house heat for years now), the wood is about that distance away (maybe six inches further than the picture shows).

The major concerns are the stove pipe and clearances behind the stove. Is it double lined and wood stove rated? What does the outside stove pipe look like? How high does it go? Is it also double walled?

The pipe has to get hot to create a good draft. This setup looks scary. It should also be inspected by the town/city. If a house fire occurs and it becomes known you have a stove (like posting on an open forum) without a permit; the insurance company could drop you like a hot potato. Pun intended.

bob

 

[KEH]

Never had any experience with 4 1/2 flue liners, don't think it's big enough. Anybody with experience there can give an opinion.

Has the chimney had wood fires in it before? Guess not, you said you installed the flue liner. In addition to the concerns listed above, a flue, especially a small one, will build up creosote deposits especially with green wood and need cleaning often.

Drying the wood for thirty days will increase it's burnability greatly. Wood cut now will be ready to burn this fall/

KEH

 

[hdshinn]

Like the folks have said - that ain't lookin' like flue pipe! And get all those combustibles away from the stove!!

Back wall appears to be painted brick so that might not be a problem.

I'd get rid of the damper in the flue pipe. If you've got smoke billowing out of the stove when you open the doors, you don't have a proper draft for it. In our area of WA state my chimney sweep advises me that flue dampers aren't advised. Better to control the draft at the intake.

 

[bams50]

Good tip with a wood stove: Keep your gas cans close by the stove. As it gets hot, the volume will expand and give you more gas for your money. Plus, if you spill it on your shoes, it won't make your feet cold....

Nobody said anything about the wall thimble... and the lack thereof. Need one of those too.

 

[casetractorfarmer]

Is that dryer vent pipe i see get rid of it now before you burn down your house or shop

 

[oilslick]

With that setup I would burn coal, but that is just me I am not telling you what to do! As long as you are single and no firefighters are endangered I say giverhell.

 

[Bender78]

In addition to what everyone else has said here, if that stove is in a garage, the firebox should be 18 inches off of the floor.

 

[930dreamer]

I'm thinking this isn't in the USA, so your local codes will apply.

 

[Lippyp]

Looks like the UK by the 13 amp square pin electrical socket on the wall. That wood looks like it might be elder which burns like **** at the best of times. Theres nothing wrong with the first part being single skinned as long as its rated for a wwood burner rather than gas. My wood stove in France has single skinned sytainless steel flue up to the ceilinga nd then double skinned insulated pipe above that and it works fine. Those joints also look a bit wonky and look like they may leak smoke/carbon monoxide.

If this is in a garage I'd personally build a wire mesh cage around it at a safe distance to stop stuff falling against it or getting piled up too close. The wood stack could do with being a bit further away but I also have wood stacked a couple of feet from two of my wood stoves with no problems.

Ideally wood needs to be seasoned for at least a year undercover with good airflow around it. Some species can be used quicker than others, some is **** full stop.

 

[santagary]

In addition to what everyone else has said here, if that stove is in a garage, the firebox should be 18 inches off of the floor.

I've heated our old house with this All Nighter airtight for 10 years and now in the garage for the last ten with triple wall piping 20' out through the roof with no smoking issues...I burn oak and ponderosa pine. I use cardboard box pieces for starter (secreted in from UPS shipments on the sly).

 

[Scottishross]

It's just a temp flue I have ordered the right this one this morning

The plastic box was sitting there when i took the pic not any more

The temp flue was twin walled but ordering the right one

 

[bob15]

What about a thimble for going through the wall?

And outside pipe? Needs to be at least double walled to to help keep the pipe hot.

 

[onewaydave]

I didn't see any info on the mfgr of the stove or its specs. My wood stove is safe to within 4" on the back.

I have burned wood split for 2 weeks without issue. I agree its not the best but it was a long cold winter. The trick on green wood is have some dry wood to get the fire going and toss in the green stuff. It'll burn fine.

Dave.

 

[Scottishross]

In addition to what everyone else has said here, if that stove is in a garage, the firebox should be 18 inches off of the floor.

its a solid concrete floor mate

why should it be 18 inches off the floor when in your house it suits and a concrete hearth plus the stove has metal legs

 

[Climber]

Get advise from professional. It does looks bad. Make sure your building has a insurance for fire. There is reason why some insurance companies do not insure buildings with wood/coal stove.
I am burning 2 wood stoves. It's take some knowledge to do this safely. Do your research.

P.S. if you split small, like 1" thick, you can burn with in 1 month. Ash can go right away. Start fire with seasoned wood then add some green.

Good luck.

 

[isaac338]

its a solid concrete floor mate

why should it be 18 inches off the floor when in your house it suits and a concrete hearth plus the stove has metal legs

The 18" clearance is so heavy flammable vapours (the kind often found in the working garage) will float underneath, and not into, the firebox.

 

[green.bubbly]

Keep in mind that nobody is trying to give you a hard time. There is legitimate concern with your current setup and you are doing well by making the changes. I live in the warm deep south so I don't often need much heat. Things such as wood burning stoves scare the **** out of me. Burning wood in my house or garage is just not something that I am comfortable with so I would be doing exactly what you are doing by asking questions and making the corrections.

Great looking stove by the way.

 

[Ign]

I've heated our old house with this All Nighter airtight for 10 years

Yep, that IS the same stove I have in the house! It'll puff into the house if I haven't cleaned the chimney, but I assume that's not the OP's problem as he has a fresh setup.

 

[mambo]

can i just add:- to meet building regs you need 150mm clear space between the rear of the stove and any NON-combustible wall

Read HERE for more info

 

[Scottishross]

Thanks for all the info

The wood burner has its own ash pan inside so don't need to worry and ash falling out i can open and close it

It's going to have to be the British regs i look at

 

[willymakeit]

Flues are typ. 2' higher than the roof within 10'. This helps elminate a lot of back draft. Drive around and look at the old chimney's and you will see what I mean.

 

[mambo]

It's going to have to be the British regs i look at

Read what i linked above Mate

 

[NUTTSGT]

Hmmm it looks like job security to me.


Seriously, listen to the advice the guys here are giving you.