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Work/Living Space, ways around zoning

iagsxr

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How about, if his girlfriend falls down the stairs, she admits that she's clumsy instead of blaming the staircase?

Read what I wrote.

She gets hurt. Her insurance pays for it. The ins co now has the right to go after whomever they feel liable. Assigning blame is not up to the injured party once they've accepted payment.

That's how it is, wish it wasn't all you want, that's how it is.

Explain the upside for the landlord.
 
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rsa

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But it was super convenient and if I needed to do it to keep overhead down I would.
I wanted to buy an old auto dealership building, but the only way to afford it would have been to live in it (I would have gone the "store" a travel-trailer route).

One of the questions that went through my mind was what might my liability be in the event a burglary took place while I was illegally living there.

Stewart
 

Razracing

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Do any of you guys remember that TV show "Vegas" from the 1980's ? The main character "Dan Tanna" lived in a big warehouse and drove his T-bird right inside, hopped out of the car and was in his living room. I always wanted a place like that when i was a kid. LOL.
 

cbattles

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Read what I wrote.

She gets hurt. Her insurance pays for it. The ins co now has the right to go after whomever they feel liable. Assigning blame is not up to the injured party once they've accepted payment.

That's how it is, wish it wasn't all you want, that's how it is.

Explain the upside for the landlord.

There's never an upside for the landlord. As the property owner, I'd (unfortunately) be every bit as potentially liable if she was a complete stranger and tripped on the driveway, as if she was living there without my knowledge.

I wouldn't put it past an insurance company to attempt to find someone else to blame and foot the bill. However, she'd be well within her rights to say "I fell down" and leave it at that.

Besides, my issue isn't with the landlord or the girlfriend, it's with the entities and laws that give the landlord a reason to need to protect himself and the girlfriend the encouragement to blame her injuries on someone else.
 
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gbrett

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I have a living space in my shop I lived there for a cpl years untill I moved in with my fiancee (she had more space). I had to put the space in my shop because of zoning only one dwelling on 80 acres.
 

rustyproject

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I travel for work. I have seen more people living in or above their shop than you would think. Lots of it out in open. Most industrial areas in the US the police have bigger problems than someone living in their shop. Extra set of eyes in crappy parts of town. I've seen every kind of small buisiness start this way. Cut down your expenses to be able to start your buisiness. Ever go to the arty part of town. Most of your painters and sculpters live in their shop(studio) Oh yea been to pretty much to all four corners of the states and Mexico.This isn't just a southern "Earl" type thing. Lots of my European customers lived above their business. I have seen some really cool "arty" spaces. I guess if you are going to pull this off you would have to "sell" your place as arty to women.
 

syzygy

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I thought about doing something similar in a small rural airport hangar, though I would actually own the building but lease the land. Sixty-five feet square with a twenty foot ceiling and two bay doors (one REALLY big) is pretty tempting. I don't know what kind of issues would arise, as most real airports in Canada are on Federally owned land.

I knew a guy who used to rent a hangar, but had a legitimate helicopter charter company. He had a nice apartment with a small deck and BBQ upstairs and a Bell 206, a restored Mach 1, and a daily driver TR6 in the bays.
 
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6768rogues

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We're talking about FD not police. If your locality requires inspections on a regular basis, it'll be in the city ordinances. I have never heard of an FD needing a search warrant.
The constitution gives you the right to privacy. An inspector can be turned away and in that case his remedy is to ask the court for a search warrant. No local law can require you to give up your constitutional rights. I was a code and fire inspector for years, and we always got permission to conduct the inspection. In a rare case where a property owner refused, our only option was to get a search warrant and have a police officer with us to serve the warrant.
There were a couple of recent cases in our area where inspectors went on property without permission. One was when the inspector saw a pile of lumber in a driveway and suspected the construction of a deck. He walked around the house and saw a deck being built and cited the owner for not having a permit. The owner fought back and won, the inspector did not have permission to enter the property and did not have a warrant. Without permission or a warrant, the inspector always loses.
In a fire, it is different. The FD has assumed control of the property until the fire is extinguished.
 
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