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Rickster

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Yup, you need to upgrade or you wouldn't be here posting! Don't overlook the Williams & Arnstrong sets. They're great quality and you can find sets on ebay very reasonably
 
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383astro

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I believe he works for Cessna as a jet mechanic on business jets if I remember correctly.

Thats cool, I work for a company that builds bleed air heat/ac units for business jets. I thought maybe by some odd chance that he installs what I build. I build Temperature Control Valves (modulating), temperature controllers, flow valves and acoustical mufflers for Piper, Piaggio, and Embraer. I cant recall seeing anything Cessna come through my work orders.
 

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If you want pro tools; the key is to not buy them new. I like my pro tools; they are all used and I pay typically 25% or less of their retail cost; cheap pro used tools rule! :)
 

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Eh.. wrenches that do the job are just fine in my opinion. Yeah I'm a bit of wrench snob.. but thats not for everyone. I've got some raised panel c-mans... in both metric and standard. However most of the stuff I wrench on is metric. When I do reach in the box I usually reach for a snap on. Its just personal preference. The SK full polished I have or even the gearwrench stuff I have do just fine for alot less $$. But yeah.. its a bling factor.. and there have been times when I was glad I had some specialty type wrenches or a better quality wrench.

For home use.. C-man is lifetime warranty and easily exchangable at any Sears and alot of Kmarts. Snap On requires access to a tool truck.. if they don't stop by your work they aren't easy access for most folks.
 

383astro

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Snap On requires access to a tool truck.. if they don't stop by your work they aren't easy access for most folks.

thats my problem. A Snap On truck comes to our GM dealer once a month or so. Ive only seen it like twice my whole life.
 

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Merkava_4's kettle is polished chrome. He makes his tea in the microwave oven right in the cup, so he doesn't discolor the bottom of his kettle with heat from the stove.;)

My tool usage is very different from Merkava_4 but I would loan my wrenches or my kettle to him any time if he was my neighbor.:)

Wouldn't want to borrow anything though.:shocking::spit:

I get a kick out of Merkava's posts most of the time. Since he has been on his Gearwrench kick, he can't bust on Craftsman USA, not really.
 

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To the OP....

if you really want shiny pro wrenches, get teh Craftsman Pro wrenches. Made in USA, full polish and they will satisfy your desire for shiny wrenches without completely breaking the bank.
 

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my c-man pros let me down the other day when i was trying to get an upper control arm fastener loose. the 17mm comb wr was just not long enough to get enough leverage to break the fastener loose. i had to go stand in line at the school tool room and get a SO - it was about 2" longer. when i got home i looked up the specs on both SO's and Toptul's extra long comb. wrenches and, the Toptul 17mm wrench is 14mm longer than the SO!
 

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I use Gearwrench reversibles and Craftsman raised panels. Besides a few odds and ends, that is all I own. I might pick up a "nicer" set if I find them cheap, but I don't plan on paying full price for anything any time soon. I would rather invest in something that I need, like an OBDII scanner.

That describes my wrenches too. At least for the metric stuff. The SAE stuff is a mixture of American made wrenches.
 
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unclethumbtack

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Okay let me ask a second question, when I do look at wrenches, why is that I always look for the SAE's first when it is the metrics that are used as much if not more on my Jeep. I think it has something to do with being american. Anybody else do this?
 

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Okay let me ask a second question, when I do look at wrenches, why is that I always look for the SAE's first when it is the metrics that are used as much if not more on my Jeep. I think it has something to do with being american. Anybody else do this?

I do this but I just think it's because I worked as a factory line electrician/mechanic and except for the occasional 9,11 or 17 it was all SAE:thumbup:
 

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Let us see, SAE is Snap on, Williams, Easco, Proto, Craftsman with assorted Mac, Wright, Cornwell and several defunct brands.

Metric is Cornwell, Gearwrench, Craftsman and assorted pieces of a multitude of brand.

So unh yeah I think I do the same.
 

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Okay let me ask a second question, when I do look at wrenches, why is that I always look for the SAE's first when it is the metrics that are used as much if not more on my Jeep. I think it has something to do with being american. Anybody else do this?

Force of habit, I still use my SAE more so I still buy that set first, then follow it with the metric equivalent later if I cannot afford to buy both at once. I must say though I would have been more than happy to have never needed metric tools. Call me old fashioned, but I would think it just fine if the metric system, metric fasteners and metric tools all disappeared tomorrow! :wtf:
 
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I dunno UB the metrics sometimes fit on the rusty and painted stuff when the SAE don't. But other then that one exception I totally agree.
 

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Most of the stuff I am working on anymore; is typically, metric... with the standard becoming rare. I am purchasing metric first... then standard. I am primarily working on under 15 year old cars; imports/domestic. Needless to say, on my VW everything is metric...
 

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my c-man pros let me down the other day when i was trying to get an upper control arm fastener loose. the 17mm comb wr was just not long enough to get enough leverage to break the fastener loose. i had to go stand in line at the school tool room and get a SO - it was about 2" longer. when i got home i looked up the specs on both SO's and Toptul's extra long comb. wrenches and, the Toptul 17mm wrench is 14mm longer than the SO!

Buy these long CM box wrenches, can't beat the set for the price,great for suspension work.You won't have to wait for the Taiwan boat for warranty.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00942962000P?keyword=009-42962&sLevel=0
 

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my c-man pros let me down the other day when i was trying to get an upper control arm fastener loose. the 17mm combination wrench was just not long enough to get enough leverage to break the fastener loose.
YOU NEED THIS!! :D
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YOU NEED THIS!! :D
GearBox_2.jpg

That's one Gearwrench tool I think is very good. I still have my Snap-on high performance box wrenches, that are very fine, just no ratchet action. For the size selection, you can't go wrong with the above Craftsman set. You never know when you will need a 22mm plus, or 1 inch plus box end. Just about every size is available in SAE and MM, in the set.
 

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my c-man pros let me down the other day when i was trying to get an upper control arm fastener loose. the 17mm comb wr was just not long enough to get enough leverage to break the fastener loose. i had to go stand in line at the school tool room and get a SO - it was about 2" longer. when i got home i looked up the specs on both SO's and Toptul's extra long comb. wrenches and, the Toptul 17mm wrench is 14mm longer than the SO!


Uhh... okay....

The Craftsman Pros didn't let you down. You just weren't using the right tool for the job. The fact that you had to go get a longer wrench speaks volumes. Don't blame operator error on your tools....
 

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Uhh... okay....

The Craftsman Pros didn't let you down. You just weren't using the right tool for the job. The fact that you had to go get a longer wrench speaks volumes. Don't blame operator error on your tools....

Right, buy more tools, as some listed on previous posts. The more tool options you have, the easier your job gets!:thumbup:
 

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Crawler, where do you work at?

I believe he works for Cessna as a jet mechanic on business jets if I remember correctly.

Correct, I work on Citations.

For home use.. C-man is lifetime warranty and easily exchangable at any Sears and alot of Kmarts.

I'll argue that.

my c-man pros let me down the other day when i was trying to get an upper control arm fastener loose. the 17mm comb wr was just not long enough to get enough leverage to break the fastener loose. i had to go stand in line at the school tool room and get a SO - it was about 2" longer. when i got home i looked up the specs on both SO's and Toptul's extra long comb. wrenches and, the Toptul 17mm wrench is 14mm longer than the SO!

Uhh... okay....

The Craftsman Pros didn't let you down. You just weren't using the right tool for the job. The fact that you had to go get a longer wrench speaks volumes. Don't blame operator error on your tools....

Agreed. The Snap-On oex series is about identical in length and shape to c-pros. They would have offered you nothing over the c-pros. Apparently you used the oexl wrenches.
 

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we did use the oexl wrench because we really needed some oomph! we had to use the open end because of clearance issues - using the box end made the shank tilt out and hit some a/c plumbing.
 

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And there's the reason so many of us have lots of different brands and styles of wrenches in our boxes.

A little difference in length or angle can make the difference between job done or not.
 

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This is a completely shameless and selfish plug, but I haven't posted to a thread in quite awhile and am in withdrawal.......
I think there is a large gap in price and quality between the Snap Ons and Macs of the world and the C-mans etc.

I try to be in the middle of that gap in price, and with the big names in quality.
Just my two cents and I apologize in advance for the commercial.
Sincerely
 
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