Wrong size hurricane ties?

[TravelingLight]

Am I being an idiot? I went to put up my hurricane ties in my shed and as you can see in the attached pic, they don’t “fit.” The bottom part that nails to the double top plate is too long. Help my ignorant self please.

Also, while I’m asking, I assume I don’t have to do hurricane ties on the gable trusses, correct? I don’t see how I could with the gable trusses being on the front edge of the double top plate. Thanks.

Sorry for the sideways pic, on mobile.

 

[readhead]

If you reverse them and put them on the correct way it will work better for you.

 

[pattenp]

As held in picture place on other side of truss.

 

[readhead]

No. It needs to be reversed so it doesn't stick into the room. If you were installing any wall cover the way they are shown they would be in the way.

 

[iSpark]

They can be confusing eh?
Pics grabbed from google.
I like the second type better.

 

[ddawg16]

It's worthwhile download the Simpson catalog

https://www.strongtie.com/

Lots of good info on their web site

 

[GMCGarage]

Am I being an idiot? I went to put up my hurricane ties in my shed and as you can see in the attached pic, they don’t “fit.” The bottom part that nails to the double top plate is too long. Help my ignorant self please.

Also, while I’m asking, I assume I don’t have to do hurricane ties on the gable trusses, correct? I don’t see how I could with the gable trusses being on the front edge of the double top plate. Thanks.

Sorry for the sideways pic, on mobile.

Move to other side of rafter and shift up.

 

[Bretny]

Move to other side of rafter and shift up.

Lol I can't believe someone who's putting these In can't figure out how they go.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Cool tool

35-Degree Pneumatic Metal Connector Nailer

 

[Hot shot]

I used air palm nailer when I did mine
Whole lot faster
Found the pic
Had to take a pic to send to building inspector because they were not up when he came out
Actually I didn’t think they were required on a garage

 

[TravelingLight]

Thanks, y’all. Massive brain fart on my part. Thanks for indulging me.

 

[TravelingLight]

I used air palm nailer when I did mine
Whole lot faster
Found the pic
Had to take a pic to send to building inspector because they were not up when he came out
Actually I didn’t think they were required on a garage

Palm nailer is a great call. I was already dreading hand nailing them all. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Buckgnarly]

Palm nailer is a great call. I was already dreading hand nailing them all. Thanks for the heads up.

Get a gun like Wizard posted, they are AMAZING for ties and hangers....worth every penny!

 

[gtae07]

Palm nailer will save your hands. It’s loud though; don’t use it when the neighbors or wife are home, if you can avoid it.

Since my rafters and studs lined up, I used ones that tied the rafter to the top plate to the stud all in one go.

I tied the end rafter to the studs with long straps.

 

[tab2]

https://bigskytool.com/metabo-hpt-nr65ak2m-2-1-2-strap-tite-fastening-system-strip-nailer-c-nr65ak2-1-renewed-c.html

Time is money...

Bought it for a deck. Started each clip by hand with one nail and used the gun for the rest of them. Did about 100 hangers in 30 mins crawling over joists.

 

[acer66]

I do not bother with brackets anymore, I use the screws.
https://www.strongtie.com/strongdrive_interiorwoodscrews/sdwc_screw/p/strong-drive-sdwc-truss-screw

 

[matt_i]

I do not bother with brackets anymore, I use the screws.
https://www.strongtie.com/strongdrive_interiorwoodscrews/sdwc_screw/p/strong-drive-sdwc-truss-screw

Those are good solutions, Timberlok and GRK make equivalents.

But, if your truss and stud lineup or even a very slight offset you'd have to do something else. Yes one could try to angle it in, I'm sure that's done every day of the week in our land but its not ideal.

 

[TravelingLight]

Get a gun like Wizard posted, they are AMAZING for ties and hangers....worth every penny!

Yeah, looks awesome. But man, who knows when I would need something like this again. So the juice isn't really worth the squeeze for me. I've already got framing gun, finish, brad, so I can't see myself spending 200 bucks for this when I dunno when I would need it again, ya know? But maybe one day...

 

[TravelingLight]

Palm nailer will save your hands. It’s loud though; don’t use it when the neighbors or wife are home, if you can avoid it.

Since my rafters and studs lined up, I used ones that tied the rafter to the top plate to the stud all in one go.

I tied the end rafter to the studs with long straps.

Any advice or pics of how you did the gable/end trusses with straps?

 

[mike93lx]

At least a palm nailer is 100% worth it. My ridgid is great and much quieter than a bostich I tried

 

[matt_i]

From Post #5, right hand picture above, the hex head screws that Simpson has available are excellent for the short vertical tabs on the truss as almost everyone has an impact driver and a 1/4" socket.

However placing the hex heads on the wide diamond flange as shown would be a nightmare for sheathing.

 

[ddurrett896]

Buy a nail gun - NR38AK. Worth it's weight in gold.

 

[ford33]

If OP doesn't want to spend $200 on a special nail gun, I would recommend the palm nailer for $40. It saves a lot of time and muscle soreness. Wear ear plugs because it is loud when pounding in nails.

 

[Bogie1632]

Got kids or grandkids? Good learning experience for them. Lots of nailing practice.

But yeah, a palm nailer would be worth it.

V/R
Bogie

 

[TravelingLight]

If OP doesn't want to spend $200 on a special nail gun, I would recommend the palm nailer for $40. It saves a lot of time and muscle soreness. Wear ear plugs because it is loud when pounding in nails.

Yeah, the juice just isn't worth the squeeze right now to drop 200 on a specialty nailer. And I can get a palm nailer from HF for 20 bucks. As long as it gets through this job, I don't even care if it craps out.

 

[gtae07]

Any advice or pics of how you did the gable/end trusses with straps?

I'll see if I can dig out some pictures...

 

[acer66]

Those are good solutions, Timberlok and GRK make equivalents.

But, if your truss and stud lineup or even a very slight offset you'd have to do something else. Yes one could try to angle it in, I'm sure that's done every day of the week in our land but its not ideal.

True but in general brackets are just a headache.
Take forever compared to screws, makes sheeting uneven or drywall wavy and its mudding more time consuming. .

 

[TravelingLight]

So I realized why I was originally trying to do it on the other side of the truss. These trusses were built flush, and I tied in rafter tails for my soffit eaves. The tied in tails are on the other side of the truss. But the ties just barely hit them. So I think I can loosen the rafter tails barely to slide the tie in and then tighten them back down.

 

[lugnut71]

When building my house, contractor installed all hurricane ties on the walls before setting the trusses on, worked great !

 

[georgiadave]

A strap nailer makes nailing these thing easy. They come in two sizes, I have the 1 1/2 inch nail size. Code may determine the necessary length of nail. Mush easier than a palm nailer for metal straps.

 

[MushCreek]

Although way overkill for my location, I used Simpson H-50's- the strongest they make. I dropped my soffits enough to cover them. My walls aren't sheathed, though. They are ICF with a double top plate, bolted with J-bolts set in the concrete. The inspectors were amused at how over-built my house is.

I bought a cheap Freeman strap nailer off ebay. It was a huge labor saver for building an entire house. Worked great, but the next time I went to use it, the nails won't feed. I'm not sure what's wrong with it, but it was worth it to get my house done. Just the floor joists alone used 1200 nails.