What I mean is you can see the center of the gear on the older protos(flush with the top of the ratchet-because it isn't sealed, like the new proto or snapon and can get dirt in it), not the teeth, but the center moved as you turned the ratchet. The old snap on's with out a dust cover where the same, and the protos in the pictures above are the same, that is what I am looking for in a proto 1/4 body or I would take another set of plomb also. Sorry my proto are older than what I have and I do actually like that style, but working on getting a complete set of the older stuff first.