WTF? 26" lug wrench?

[Old Man Roger]

OK, how do we get a member here to compare the torque of a 20 inch four-way and the GTE?

I know someone here has the equipment to measure this lol

 

[qqzj]

PS, my favorite 4 way is only 20 inches, but my breaker bars are all 16.

If I needed added leverage, I would slip a pipe over a breaker bar, but not a 4 way. The 4 ways handle would be too far from the wheel, just like the GTE, but the breaker bar is right at the end of the socket, so you can actually use the added leverage.

Now you are arguing to support my view point? The GTE is just like a breaker bar. And a 4 way is far from the wheel so torque cannot be applied reliably close to the wheel. Thanks for the support.

 

[Old Man Roger]

Now you are arguing to support my view point? The GTE is just like a breaker bar. And a 4 way is far from the wheel so torque cannot be applied reliably close to the wheel. Thanks for the support.

Not at all. My point is the GTE makes a crappy breaker because it’s handle can’t be reliably used close to the wheel, and the GTE isn‘t as good as a 4 way, because in “power mode” it only has a handle on 1 side.
It is equally as good as a 13 inch 4 way, and even better at storing as a 13 inch 4 way, but not as good as a 26 inch 4 way as they claim.

Probably not even as good as a 20 inch 4 way.

 

[whateg01]

Power mode probably means 1 insert the silver piece into the slot nearest to the wheel (2) lock it into the first ball bearing. That's just how breaker bar works. I honestly think this is more powerful than 26 inches traditional because (1) you can put some body weight on it (2) a traditional 26 might not be the perfect position to generate force. Think about it, how can you make sure one hand to pull it straight up, and the other to push it straight down?

Dude. You are really stretching to make the seller's description make sense. You really should just accept that the 26" description is just straight up BS and the power mode, or whatever it was is marketing BS.

 

[whateg01]

This might explain some of our confusion. If you look at the link, the red part is the handle, the silver part holds the socket.

it can be used like a normal 4-way, except one size is a half-inch drive for a regular socket. The red part has 3 holes in it, so it can be centered, or off to one side. Likewise, the hex part has ball bearing detents to hold the red part at one end or in the middle. I have a cheater in each car anyway, so I'll be able to make it work like a real 26" 4-way. The compact storage is what sold me on it. The hex part slides down the middle of the hollow red part, and the whole thing slides into my cheater.

 

[Old Man Roger]

Dude. You are really stretching to make the seller's description make sense. You really should just accept that the 26" description is just straight up BS and the power mode, or whatever it was is marketing BS.

He knows, he’s just exercising his debate muscle..lol

 

[Old Man Roger]

it can be used like a normal 4-way, except one size is a half-inch drive for a regular socket. The red part has 3 holes in it, so it can be centered, or off to one side. Likewise, the hex part has ball bearing detents to hold the red part at one end or in the middle. I have a cheater in each car anyway, so I'll be able to make it work like a real 26" 4-way. The compact storage is what sold me on it. The hex part slides down the middle of the hollow red part, and the whole thing slides into my cheater.

Ya, like I mentioned, it’s as good as any small 4 way, and the storage advantage is real.

 

[snickers muncher]

My Harbor Freight 25" breaker bar is shorter than the spare tire it's stored beside. Storage isn't a problem and the bar and socket is much cheaper.

I also loosen and retorque my wheels if someone else installed them.

 

[whateg01]

I just rewatched the first few seconds of the video, most wheels wouldn’t allow you to put the silver part in the hole closest to the wheel.

I don't know about most wheels. I have no problem on the steelies on my truck.

 

[Half-fast eddie]

Just a bit of a gripe. I ordered one of these lug wrenches. Nice construction, it seems, but haven't really put it to any kind of test. Where do they get the 26" dimension? I measured less than 16" overall length. Each piece is less than that individually. Together, they are longer than 26". There are several brands online with the same or similar description, but they all appear to be shorter. After getting it and finding that, I went back and looked more closely at the comments and questions and they are all short like that. This doesn't even add up to the logic of "peak horsepower" on an air compressor or shopvac.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015DJ8A40/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Simple. The left hand is pushing down, and the right hand is pulling up, so you add the force of each hand. If you had the cheap wrench from the competition, the L shape wrench, you could only apply force on one side. Bingo.

 

[whateg01]

Simple. The left hand is pushing down, and the right hand is pulling up, so you add the force of each hand. If you had the cheap wrench from the competition, the L shape wrench, you could only apply force on one side. Bingo.

Oh FFS. Here we go again

 

[Zewnten]

I'm not sure what the OP is expecting. First you bought a tool made by a company too cheap to hire an English speaker to write the ad, all the reviews say this tool ***** except for the people who were paid to say nice things about it.

Second you complained about a tool on a tool forum so of course people are going to chime in with their opinions on a better tool, if you want to a shoulder to cry on and be told it'll all be better the bad man tricked you, talk to a priest/prostitute or your mom; no one else cares.

Third a lot people on here either over think or under think things for everything they do, most aren't educated by schooling or imperial evidence on how tools work. You get what you pay for

 

[whateg01]

I'm not sure what the OP is expecting. First you bought a tool made by a company too cheap to hire an English speaker to write the ad, all the reviews say this tool ***** except for the people who were paid to say nice things about it.

All the reviews? A bunch had the end break off. And from the looks, it's a poor manufacturing process. The ends appear to be welded on then the weld turned down for appearance, thus thinning the weld and weakening it. For the money and the design, I can fix that easy enough. There's a lot more reviews that said it works well unless you're one of those people that thinks anything positive said must have been paid for.

Second you complained about a tool on a tool forum so of course people are going to chime in with their opinions on a better tool, if you want to a shoulder to cry on and be told it'll all be better the bad man tricked you, talk to a priest/prostitute or your mom; no one else cares.

You cared enough to comment, so there's that. Better? That kind of depends on how you define better? I don't find a half dozen impacts scattered among all the family vehicles, plus the one in the shop, plus the one in the house to be a better solution. And a breaker bar is more versatile but there's really nothing it can do that a4 way can't. I can put a cheater on a 4 way just fine. I guess the stick out on a breaker bar is less but I've had them slip off of fasteners before too. But whatever.

Third a lot people on here either over think or under think things for everything they do, most aren't educated by schooling or imperial evidence on how tools work. You get what you pay for

Good! Because this was an Amazon warehouse purchase. A little over half the displayed price. I'll take it. See cheapskate thread.

Bye now!

 

[Old Man Roger]

Easy guys, look how long qqzj and I disagreed about this tool, with calling each other names.

 

[whateg01]

Slightly ot, back when I worked on Sprint cars, we used a wheel wrench to take off the rear axle nut. I started to make one similar that would take a 1/2" drive socket but kind of stopped because of the room it would take up. The weights were 2.375" in diameter and about 2" long. It's basically a big slow manually powered impact and it worked well for that job. Maybe I'll finish that and see how it performs on stuck lugnuts.