Wurth Wrench Set users?

[pfbz]

WurthTool definitely has a minimum US presence, and they don't seem to be making any significant efforts to establish it...

To me it seems like a very small e-commerce team that put together a VERY basic webpage and plans a few sales a year, then leverages the extremely established fulfillment engine of Wurth to deliver the tools (they always come very quickly, lots of notifications while in process, and packaged impeccably)

My understanding is that they do have a much stronger commercial tool user presence in Europe, can anyone verify?

As for their website, here is the Wurth German corporate website page for the Powerdriv wrenches I just bought. Not superb, but FAR better than the us wurthtools version.

Buy Combination wrench, extra long online | WÜRTH

Metric combination wrench with POWERDRIV® ▶ Large product range ✓ Fast delivery ✓ Purchase on account ✓ For trade customers only ▶ Buy from Würth!

eshop.wuerth.de

And the zero-offset double box, which I agree are some of the nicest tools I've seen from them

Buy Double box-end wrench metric extra long online | WÜRTH

Metric double box-end wrench with POWERDRIV® drive ▶ Large product range ✓ Fast delivery ✓ Purchase on account ✓ For trade customers only ▶ Buy from Würth!

eshop.wuerth.de

I still see zero mention of COO

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

And I’ll just leave the following interactive chart here:

Operating numbers | Würth Group

www.wuerth.com

And some excerpts from their annual report 2024, that can be accessed in full here: https://www.wuerth.com/downloads/pdf/Geschäftsbericht/2024/Würth-Group-Annual-Report-2024.pdf



And if you keep this Wiki article switched to German language, there’s a full list of companies owned by Würth in it. And a list of their 2183 points of sale by countries.

Würth-Gruppe – Wikipedia

de.wikipedia.org

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[pfbz]

I also found this Wurth tool catalog online, again, no mention of COO, but more info than on the lame US website.

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

We’ve had this discussion before. They only list COO on the delivery note (not in all regions), and in some regions on the packaging - if they absolutely must.

I did especially inquire with my rep for that one wrench type back then and provided the answer I got.

The typical Würth core customer doesn’t care about COO, it’s simply not an issue for them. They want reliable, tested & certified products that perform - every time - especially when it comes to their core products: Fasteners, standard parts, chemicals, (…). Also, they want access to and through their points of sale, not just in their home country but buying all over Europe with their account discounts/terms applied, paying their invoices in EUR/ or local currency where they registered their business with Würth/ set up the account.

Würth is not in the business of selling to “tool connoisseurs“.

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[pfbz]

that is freaking hilarious...

No soup for you!

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

Not really. It’s just setup strictly as a B2B supplier/ operation. And at least over here, you’re not going to do what you guys in the US are doing. (Simply ordering from them.) You want to buy from them, you open an account, provide your business license/permit and after they checked that, they confirm or deny the account. However, they appreciate even the smallest business signing up with them these days.

But because of that, they operate outside what would be the common terms and conditions for B2C sales. This is a very different set of rules. …

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

Here’s a pic to get this back to the tools. Very useful, sturdy, stubby screwdriver: slotted 1.2x8.0



Kind regards,
Olli

 

[pfbz]

This reply was in my mailbox this morning... I guess Wurth USA is a bit more receptive to us “tool connoisseurs“?

 

[DAustin]

We’ve had this discussion before. They only list COO on the delivery note (not in all regions), and in some regions on the packaging - if they absolutely must.

I did especially inquire with my rep for that one wrench type back then and provided the answer I got.

The typical Würth core customer doesn’t care about COO, it’s simply not an issue for them. They want reliable, tested & certified products that perform - every time - especially when it comes to their core products: Fasteners, standard parts, chemicals, (…). Also, they want access to and through their points of sale, not just in their home country but buying all over Europe with their account discounts/terms applied, paying their invoices in EUR/ or local currency where they registered their business with Würth/ set up the account.

Würth is not in the business of selling to “tool connoisseurs“.

Kind regards,
Olli

I wonder what their reason for taking Germany off the wrench when the older ones had it on them. I wonder if this will make it easier to move production to another country if they want to.

 

[Steel_Rain]

I wonder what their reason for taking Germany off the wrench when the older ones had it on them. I wonder if this will make it easier to move production to another country if they want to.

Yea, maybe that's the reason. My Zerbra screwdrivers also don't have any COO listed on them either.

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

This reply was in my mailbox this morning... I guess Wurth USA is a bit more receptive to us “tool connoisseurs“?

That is exactly the information I gave @DAustin about his wrench, and what I was provided with from my rep.

You have misread my post. What I wrote in the third & fourth paragraph of #44 was NOT an/the answer from Würth, but simply me explaining how it is at scale with the typical Würth customer. I apologize if that was somehow confusing, that was not my intention.

And yes, when inquired, Würth provides an answer. Wouldn’t have expected anything else.

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[pfbz]

And yes, when inquired, Würth provides an answer. Wouldn’t have expected anything else.

Yeah, I mis-read that. I thought you were saying that Wurth gave you the blow off answer of 'Würth is not in the business of selling to tool connoisseurs'....

(But I agree, they clearly are not in that business)

 

[LWB]

90% of our consumables at work are supplied by Wurth. Fab, hardware, PPE and chemicals. I've never looked ta their tools but will now.

 

[esben57]

Not really. It’s just setup strictly as a B2B supplier/ operation. And at least over here, you’re not going to do what you guys in the US are doing. (Simply ordering from them.) You want to buy from them, you open an account, provide your business license/permit and after they checked that, they confirm or deny the account. However, they appreciate even the smallest business signing up with them these days.

But because of that, they operate outside what would be the common terms and conditions for B2C sales. This is a very different set of rules. …

Kind regards,
Olli

As I have mentioned elsewhere, I went into a Wurth depot in the Canary Islands. Everything on show, prices wildly expensive for non members.
Signed up easily when I got home to the UK, different pricing. I do appreciate there will be added shipping costs to that Archipelago.
Might pull the trigger on these.

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

A ”steal” at that price. Wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger on that set for that money.

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General question, do ”we” hijack this thread to become “The Würth” thread or are “we” going to start a new one to keep this “strictly” to the wrenches - and share everything else from pictures to questions/discussions in a new thread?

Suggestions?

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[Steel_Rain]

General question, do ”we” hijack this thread to become “The Würth” thread or are “we” going to start a new one to keep this “strictly” to the wrenches - and share everything else from pictures to questions/discussions in a new thread?

Suggestions?

I think we start a new thread and link it here. Let’s just label it “The Würth Tools Thread”.

Your idea Olli, so you do the honors.

I can photo some my stuff along with some new items I haven’t posted yet. Hopefully that will bring all the users out that own them.

@Fedwrench definitely gets the credit for getting the conversation started on this brand, it’s what got me interested, so +1 to him.

 

[esben57]

I think we start a new thread and link it here. Let’s just label it “The Würth Tools Thread”.

Or, 'Are these Wurthwhile' or something similar.
Have ordered the Zebra screwdrivers £25 including VAT, free postage.

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

It has been done. https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/the-wuerth-tools-thread-are-these-wurthwhile.554021/

Threw together a few tools and other stuff - all by Würth - for the cover picture.

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[Kasal]

As I have mentioned elsewhere, I went into a Wurth depot in the Canary Islands. Everything on show, prices wildly expensive for non members.
Signed up easily when I got home to the UK, different pricing. I do appreciate there will be added shipping costs to that Archipelago.
Might pull the trigger on these.

The islands are usually much cheaper than the mainland, 21% less, because VAT is not charged.

 

[esben57]

The islands are usually much cheaper than the mainland, 21% less, because VAT is not charged.

That's interesting. Saw crazy prices at the customer service perhaps because then I was no es miembro.
Might try again if I get back.
Cheers
Ben

 

[Kasal]

That's interesting. Saw crazy prices at the customer service perhaps because then I was no es miembro.
Might try again if I get back.
Cheers
Ben

That will help you get a fairer price; they also sometimes have products on sale and those are usually good deals.

 

[DAustin]

That is exactly the information I gave @DAustin about his wrench, and what I was provided with from my rep.

You have misread my post. What I wrote in the third & fourth paragraph of #44 was NOT an/the answer from Würth, but simply me explaining how it is at scale with the typical Würth customer. I apologize if that was somehow confusing, that was not my intention.

And yes, when inquired, Würth provides an answer. Wouldn’t have expected anything else.

Kind regards,
Olli

Thanks for taking the time to do that for me. I've liked the wrench, 10x13mm is a great size range for working on European cars. I don't mind tools from Taiwan but when I order a tool made in Germany and it came without the name on the wrench it made me wonder. I'm glad to hear most are still made in Germany and I may order more Wurth wrenches.

 

[Gmonkee]

Wurth wrench sets are definitely oriented toward a certain range of vehicles as you get into 5 pc sets. German cars or Asain cars by omitting the 12mm size or others not used a lot on either.

I have extensively used Wurth tools since 2012 in shops and they pass perfectly in sizing and wear resistance.
But, on both my ratchet wrenches and the combo wrenches mentioned in the first post the chrome will peel with a lot of use over time. At least in those sold years ago.
Still perfectly usable of course but not as pretty.

That said I prefer the Japanese wrenches Wurth sold me. So **** in form without any compromise in function or fit.
My wurth DOE set also has a bit of chrome peel but after near two decades of use, who cares?
They have never slipped on a bolt yet.

 

[Jure]

Not a single wurth wtench is made in Eu or Germany,they are made in taiwan.

 

[Gmonkee]

That makes some a bit irritated as they assume that GERMANY label means its made there for them.

Wùrth is a company from there and wanted that on thier Zebra wrenches.
Not the same but if the quality supports the reputation of the brand they have nothing to worry about.

I have German made wrenches that range from the 1890's to 1930. Mine are post 1895 because they are branded for the Spanish hardware chain Ehlis

Marked Whitworth and metric sizes and still in usable condition.
Quality carried by the brand. Not important where it was made.

 

[crashmtb]

I'm sure their stuff is very good quality, but if they actually want to break into the US market selling the same stuff as everyone else, they need to adjust pricing, find some dealers, and do something to be seen.

Wurth isn't a tool company, they are an industrial supply company. They don't have dealers. Their tools are a private label thing, a value add for their catalogue.

Their primary businesses are assembly fasteners for automakers. chemicals and hardware(especially inventory i.e. they manage stock) for dealerships, bodyshops etc.