WW2 tool training vid

[ganymede]

Apologies if this has been posted before
Made by the war dept and Plomb
http://http://youtube.com/watch?v=sD3fvTfoo4o

Damn the link isn't working.

 

[ganymede]

Anyway I searched youtube for Plomb Tools and it came up vid title is..
Official Training Film T.F.9 2026

 

[wadus]

 

[rusty65]

Interesting video thank you for sharing. My favorite part is when they are talking about open ended wrenches.

 

[anthonyfilice]

very cool video

 

[rick carpenter]

Cool "restricted" video, I didn't know they had Youtube in the 1940s!

 

[Plombob]

Outstanding ganymede! I'll alert the collectors.

Here's the list of films that we know of. http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/organisation/56910?view=credit

Only one was located. This appears to be one of the missing films.

Keep looking - You may find more of the missing films.

 

[William Payne]

That video should required viewing for anyone wanting to get into a trade or use tools in general. Still very relevant in the world today.

 

[nowlan]

I was thinking the ratchet wasnt invented when he was using the first socket.

Ive seen some interesting b&w army on radio waves etc.

 

[ganymede]

Thanks for a link that works.

Cool "restricted" video, I didn't know they had Youtube in the 1940s!

They had everything us young whippersnappers had. They phased it out in the 50s when it was taken over by beatniks and communists.

Outstanding ganymede! I'll alert the collectors.

Here's the list of films that we know of. http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/organisation/56910?view=credit

Only one was located. This appears to be one of the missing films.

Keep looking - You may find more of the missing films.

Glad to help.
Is it me or did they not mention 3/8 drive?
What's up with that ?
Thanks for the list. That'll keep me happy for a while!

That video should required viewing for anyone wanting to get into a trade or use tools in general. Still very relevant in the world today.

Agreed. I laughed my *** off when he threw the adjustable at his workbench.

I was thinking the ratchet wasnt invented when he was using the first socket.

Ive seen some interesting b&w army on radio waves etc.

Interesting that ratchets were described as being subject or prone to rapid wear because of intense pressure. I wonder what rapid was to that generation..? A ratchet that only lasts 15 yrs ??

 

[Plombob]

Is it me or did they not mention 3/8 drive?
What's up with that ?

It surprised me too. I don't believe 3/8" was commonly used back then. Not sure when it became the dominant drive size. Maybe someone else here can shed light on that question?

 

[WWIIjeep]

It surprised me too. I don't believe 3/8" was commonly used back then. Not sure when it became the dominant drive size. Maybe someone else here can shed light on that question?

3/8" drive certainly existed then, and it's listed in Plomb catalogs of the day, but that film was intended for military training, and most of their stuff was BIG, or really small.

Even in the civilian market, cars and trucks had lots of space under the hood, and you rarely needed to be a contortionist or magician to reach things. 1/2" drive sockets fit just about everywhere, and if not, you used a box or open-end wrench.

There were also no fine-toothed ratchets because there wasn't a screaming need for them. A plain coarse-toothed ratchet and 12-point sockets could get you operating clearance in most situations.

I'm sure you already know this, but the older Plomb catalogs called 1/4" drive "midget" and 3/8" drive "cub" and 1/2" drive "standard." I don't think they stopped calling 1/2" drive "standard" until the Ingersoll-Rand era in the '60s.

FWIW, my first socket set in the late 1950s, given to me by my dad, was 1/2" drive (new Snap-On sockets and a spare Plomb ratchet of his). It worked fine on a '51 Buick and a '55 Chevy. I've still got the ratchet and most of the sockets (damn kids), and wish I still had the '55 Chevy.

 

[wafrederick]

Here is another one done by GM and Disney in 1945,a guy in Texas sells it on DVD

 

[softailgarage]

"They had everything us young whippersnappers had. They phased it out in the 50s when it was taken over by beatniks and communists."

 

[cmandp]

Thanks for posting this. The part I enjoyed most was all of the brand new Plomb tools; more specifically the double box end wrenches, sockets and ratchets and ... and ... and ...Who am I kidding I liked all of it.

 

[ex-x-fire]

That guy was gonna knock off early & hit the slop chute, but he had to clean & put away his tools.

 

[zeet]

Cool video Ganymede... Thanks for the heads-up!

Great to see that toolbox and those tools lookin' so new and clean!

But I doubt that engine ran for long... ;^)

 

[4BT]

Great video

 

[TwoInch]

i like how they stress cleaning and lubing ratchets.

so many guys to this day think its ridiculous to open ratchets to clean and lube....

 

[Plombob]

3/8" drive certainly existed then, and it's listed in Plomb catalogs of the day, but that film was intended for military training, and most of their stuff was BIG, or really small.

Even in the civilian market, cars and trucks had lots of space under the hood, and you rarely needed to be a contortionist or magician to reach things. 1/2" drive sockets fit just about everywhere, and if not, you used a box or open-end wrench.

There were also no fine-toothed ratchets because there wasn't a screaming need for them. A plain coarse-toothed ratchet and 12-point sockets could get you operating clearance in most situations.

I'm sure you already know this, but the older Plomb catalogs called 1/4" drive "midget" and 3/8" drive "cub" and 1/2" drive "standard." I don't think they stopped calling 1/2" drive "standard" until the Ingersoll-Rand era in the '60s.

FWIW, my first socket set in the late 1950s, given to me by my dad, was 1/2" drive (new Snap-On sockets and a spare Plomb ratchet of his). It worked fine on a '51 Buick and a '55 Chevy. I've still got the ratchet and most of the sockets (damn kids), and wish I still had the '55 Chevy.

Good points WWIIjeep!

When I was a young guy, the first set I bought was a 1/2 drive C-Man set. Mentioned it to the neighborhood mechanic and he said it was pretty much worthless for working on cars. I use a 1/2 drive now and then, but 3/8" is the main size.

 

[MasterOod]

Cool find. I recall a similar film to this when I was in shop class in Highschool. It's a shame too many schools have done away with shop/wood working/etc . . ..

 

[TheMonge23]

Nice to see that the basics of military technical training haven't changed in over 65 years.

Was the narrator calling the guy in the video a "dolt" the whole time?? That's awesome and not PC at all; there's one difference from today's training.

 

[jeffmoss26]

Very cool!

 

[Chamkila]

Loved it

 

[zuk123]

I must admit that I've done what "Dolt" did with the allen. I've used a screwdriver

It was in one particular case though, wire attachment lugs in a disconnect panel. The lugs are often not particularly tight, and are a large allen. A particular craftsman screwdriver wedged in perfectly.

I also find it interesting that ratchets were considered a special purpose tool, to be used when a tee handle or breaker didn't do the job. Now they are the first choice!

Thanks for sharing.

zuk

 

[ganymede]

I must admit that I've done what "Dolt" did with the allen. I've used a screwdriver

It was in one particular case though, wire attachment lugs in a disconnect panel. The lugs are often not particularly tight, and are a large allen. A particular craftsman screwdriver wedged in perfectly...

Don't sweat it. Last night I had to be like 'Primative Pete' (see the vid wafrederick linked above) . I used some duck bill Vise Grips as a giant screwdriver for the shoulder screw beneath a bench vise.
Yes there is a proper tool for every job but we don't always have them.

 

[Harry Gerrard]

Good video, I learned something about the universal socket adapter. I also had to laugh at the guy taking the allen wrench to the grinder,, I've thought about it but never was so desperate.

 

[metaleltr]

Good video, I learned something about the universal socket adapter. I also had to laugh at the guy taking the allen wrench to the grinder,, I've thought about it but never was so desperate.

Iv'e cut cheap screwdriver shanks off before to use in the drill chuck!