Ye Old Garage

[sublime68charger]

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Denwood,

Rain barrel plan is at bottom of the list
But it is on the list!
Have barrel just need to get it set up.

Sink is gonna get the old house facet that leaks and garden hose hook up for when want to use the sink hook up garden house and have working sink by garden!
Happy wife I hope?

 

[sublime68charger]

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Starting to dig the trench that power will go into for the garage,
This is outside the atv workshop has 100 amp feed so will have plenty of power for the garage. The only draws on the atv workshop is some outlets and lights and eletric baseboard heat I keep the small office and bathroom at 50 during the winter.

Regards sublime

 

[1/2 Cup]

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Starting to dig the trench that power will go into for the garage,
This is outside the atv workshop has 100 amp feed so will have plenty of power for the garage. The only draws on the atv workshop is some outlets and lights and eletric baseboard heat I keep the small office and bathroom at 50 during the winter.

Regards sublime

Are you trenching by hand sub?

 

[drivesitfar]

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Sub: nice work and hope you ger it aorted out before the snow starts. Did you get the awning up or is that today's project?

1/2: my guess is by hand because since i started the diet thread Sub has lost 30 pounds on his cheeseburger diet. Niw he is playing basketball and joining me on a workout program we both have the dvd's for. I'd welcome you to the diet thread even if you dont need to and just want to help us. DLC even stopped smoking because of that thread after 40 years of puffing them. He's going on his third month now and we are all pulling for him which i think is helping. Cheers

Sub: pouring rain here today so P90x in about an hour then more organizing my garage.

Hope your weather is decent dor your outdoor projects

 

[sublime68charger]

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Are you trenching by hand sub?

For close by the buildings I'm will have to,

For the wide open space I have a 1 bottom plow behind my atv that I'm gonna turn over a furrow the I have some flexible conduit going in the furrow wire going inside of the conduit.
Going to be a little shallow on depth but this is only to get me through this winter. Next summer plan is to have outside wood boiler put in and those trenches for boiler lines will be dug at depth and then this temp line will go in the boiler trench as well.

I just need to get power to garage for winter so I can work on inside garage finish when cold outside!

Drives I can tell my left arm gonna be sore tomorrow still feeling morning workout yet!

 

[sublime68charger]

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Drives,

Awing project is on hold till I have paint need 1 more can to get the top of awing covered,
Plus I can finish that with frozen ground, digging in ground no fun when frozen

Though be a good workout I bet!

 

[dlcwent]

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Good plan sub. Dig while the dirt isn't frozen. Are you planning to have any heat in your garage?

And thanks for the plug Drives.

 

[Carl_WI]

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Next summer plan is to have outside wood boiler put in

For your outdoor wood boiler what brand are you looking at? My neighbor has a Central boiler. I refer it to an old steam engine. A couple of years ago I thought my barn was on fire as the smoke was really bad. I ran out in front to check if it was the neighbors boiler and sure enough. He is 1/4 mile up the road. They smoke really bad. Look into gasification boilers as they burn allot cleaner. I have a Greenwood gasification 200K BTU boiler. This winter take note which way the wind blows and do not place your boiler upwind of the house.

 

[sublime68charger]

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Good plan sub. Dig while the dirt isn't frozen. Are you planning to have any heat in your garage?

And thanks for the plug Drives.

yep for this year Heat will be the old wood stove with the pipe out the window!

and If I have Electric power I can put a fan on top of wood stove to blow the heat around the garage. so that I can work on getting Insulation put up and be somewhat warm while doing that, also want to work on the inside wall finish and I'll need Electric power so that I can run a router to make shiplap on the boards I'm going to be putting up.

My trench will be a little on the shallow side as next summer the plan is to have a outdoor wood boiler put in.

Carl thanks for the tips on the wood boiler and Im thinking Centeral Boiler there High Eff 2400 series unit, my dad has this same unit and hes' 1/2 mile from me and He seems pretty happy with it.

and I have the spot picked out that is away from the house and where winds will keep the smoke away from the house.



Maybe down the road I

 

[Denwood]

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If you can swing a high efficiency wood stove, you may decide to just stick with that. I installed a high efficiency fireplace in our home about 10 yrs back (for those power outage type situations) and it will drive us out of the house on a -20C day with 60 000 BTU output. Once at temp, there's pretty much zero smoke. In the first yr, we used it pretty much to heat the house, and wood consumption was less than half of what we had predicted...about 1.5 cords. Since then we've insulated/retrofitted etc. so the energy require to heat the home has dropped about 50%. Combustion air comes from outside..so your warm inside air is not going up the flu.

A small stove like this would likely be all you'd ever need: http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/timberidge-smart-wood-stove-0642403p.html#.VjzQROKQcUN

I like this one particularly as it has "Automated Air Setback" which means you don't have to remember to set the unit back once it's up to temp. With our unit, if you don't set it back, it generates way to much heat...and the main floor will climb to 28C (82F). Our house is about 1800sq/ft. I use this "feature" by the way to clear out the place if family gatherings are going to long. Ha.

 

[sublime68charger]

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Denwood thanks for the info!

Working on the trench today!
Getting power to the garage.

So far it has all been work from the atv seat, but that is over now will have to get the rest by hand!

 

[sublime68charger]

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Close up pic of my Atv with 1 bottom plow that did the initial trench

It did okay not great by any means but still saved me from a lot of hand shovel work

 

[sublime68charger]

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Got half way with being done and ran out of time!

I'm now at the local high school musical!

The sound of music!

Kids wanted to go and the wife is gone shopping so I get to take 3 kids to the musical

Pic has the shovel at my stopping point for the day

 

[1/2 Cup]

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Getting closer Sub, you won't know yourself having power on.

 

[drivesitfar]

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Sub: the Hills are alive so hope you enjoy the musical. your garage is looking great and like 1/2 says power and heat might put it and you over the top.

great job with the tools you have digging that trench.

 

[sublime68charger]

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Getting closer Sub, you won't know yourself having power on.

Sub: the Hills are alive so hope you enjoy the musical. your garage is looking great and like 1/2 says power and heat might put it and you over the top.

great job with the tools you have digging that trench.

Thanks guys,
Yes the hills are alive!

Though the bleacher seats are hard!

But we are not crowded so the kids have some wiggle room thankfully

It's gonna be real nice having electric power in the garage for the winter

 

[captain14]

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Progress is still progress. It will be great to have power , heat and lights this winter as you do the interior work on the garage. You can look back and feel good about getting it done on your terms.

 

[Carl_WI]

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Throw in a low voltage pipe while your at it.
I used 1.5" poly pipe for my low voltage to my house. I ran 2 data, phone, TV, audio line, and a pull string.
I really like internet and TV in the shop.

 

[Denwood]

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I was going to suggest the same. I ran network cable in some inexpensive PVC water pipe along side the gas line when this was run to the shop. Do two runs of Cat 7, even if you don't need them now. Even if you're not doing internet to your shop, the lines come in very handy down the line if you want to monitor garage doors, control HVAC, monitor solar installations etc. We used quite a bit of it here at Cinevate to control HVAC pumps and HRV.

 

[sublime68charger]

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thanks for the thoughts guy's

and this is a get me through the winter temp trench,
Next summer or summer after that a wood boiler is going in and I will need to trench water lines for the wood boiler and they are gonna run in this same trench this wire will be pulled up and a deeper trench dug for the water lines and then this wire going back into the trench as well and gonna run the data lines then.

I just don't have the money in the budget at the moment, the main fridge in the house just blew out and had to to spend $$$$ big bucks to keep the wife happy with a new fridge. Barely had the money to buy the wire for in the trench.

 

[sublime68charger]

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Worked on getting my wire pulled through the conduit tonight this is inside the garage and my system for keeping tension on my pull rope while I push the wire through the conduit or I can pull on my rope also when I can't push the wire threw any more

Some weight and rope and pulley

Have appx 6 more feet of wire left till I'm all the way through the conduit with the wire

Drives also a nice workout lifting up the weights to hang on the rope for tension

 

[drivesitfar]

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Sub: looking good sir.

keep at it and i can see the lights in your near future.

also nice getting a little exercise in between our workouts too.

 

[sublime68charger]

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Temp in the 20s at the moment working on getting wire pulled through conduit had to add in some atv muscle to get last part pulled through

Temp to get to 50 hope to get wire pulled and most of trench back filled!

 

[dlcwent]

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Hey Sub, glad you're taking the time to reply to the posts, but if you let us keep pestering you, you'll never get all done that you want to. Keep it up buddy. You'll be flipping on the light switch before you know it.

 

[Denwood]

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I would guess some conduit prelube may have helped. Either way, an ATV wire puller...now that's thinking on your feet. The good news is that at 20F, no need for a wired in beer fridge to celebrate your success.

As you enjoy an occasional pun, uh, we're all pulling for you

 

[sublime68charger]

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Had to bring in the heavy equipment for moving the rocks out of the backfill material!

Heres a In progress pic

 

[fergus]

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What are your operating engineers doing standing around? Tell em coffee break is OVER!

 

[sublime68charger]

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Trench all back filled well 95% is done still have to finish the tie into the existing breaker box.

That is tomorrow's goal!
Will have to cut out the drywall and get some conduit routed.



Pic of the back filled trench. This from the garage looking back down towards the atv workshop!

Atv with blade did great backfilling.

 

[1/2 Cup]

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That is the best part of a trench and that is seeing it backfilled.

Regards

 

[sublime68charger]

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Hey Sub, glad you're taking the time to reply to the posts, but if you let us keep pestering you, you'll never get all done that you want to. Keep it up buddy. You'll be flipping on the light switch before you know it.

I would guess some conduit prelube may have helped. Either way, an ATV wire puller...now that's thinking on your feet. The good news is that at 20F, no need for a wired in beer fridge to celebrate your success.

As you enjoy an occasional pun, uh, we're all pulling for you

Thanks guys,
The goal is to have power in the garage before turkey day!
The charger needs a battery charge to get started and I need to move it to the other side so the wood stove can go in!
Atv wire puller works good first atv had hold of the conduit whil 2 was hooked to the pull rope and away I went.

Pic of the inside the garage wire indeed as it is currently. Wire feed in and then grounding wire back out to the ground rods!

 

[sublime68charger]

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That is the best part of a trench and that is seeing it backfilled.

Regards

What are your operating engineers doing standing around? Tell em coffee break is OVER!

1/2 the back filling was pretty easy, a lot of work from the atv seat!
I was more happy when I finished getting the trench dug!
The atv blade has done pressure so it was kinda fun to push the dirt back in!

Fergus,
The operating engineers had fun also they had the job of picking out all the big rocks and loading up the trailer!

 

[sublime68charger]

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Got the electric rough in done the wire is to the breaker boss on both sides.

Have to get circuit breakers next!
But in happy where I'm at!

Pic is the outside conduit run from the atv workshop

 

[sublime68charger]

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Pic of inside the atv workshop.

What the best way to get the drywall I had to cut put back into place?
Im a total drywall noob all I have ever done is rough fit never done muddling or patching?
Any body have a great how to video or thread for dry wall fixing?

I'm think put the small lower part in and fill the bottom with great stuff then I have loose batt insulation for the top part that was already in there

 

[Bib Overalls]

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On the sides cut back until 3/4" of the studs are exposed or sister up some 1/4 boards using SCREWS to attach. At the top, bottom. and in the middle run 1/4 cross bars attached to nailers or set in notches in the sister boards. At the bottom set the crossbar 1 1/2" below the cut and try to secure the bottom with glue. Insulate the stud bay. Cut a piece of drywall to fit and secure it in place with glue and a few drywall screws. Mud, tape, mud again and paint.

 

[drivesitfar]

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Sub: when you sister in a one by or two by id move the wires to the inside of the new boards. Id also move that outlet and square the piece off. When taping id use the fiberglass mesh style tapeand do several light coats stonkeep sanding and dust to minimun. It doesnt need to be perfect and will probably have a ridge at the joint, but youll probably end up with something in front of it later anyway. Probably a ton of youtube vids to watch if you need to see some.

Nice work on the trenching btw.

 

[Carl_WI]

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Are you ready for the weather tomorrow? Looks like the southern half of WI is going to get pounded. I have to finish plowing the field and my plow is on my 4000 that I move the stuff with. I did not use the S word...

Carl

 

[sublime68charger]

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Are you ready for the weather tomorrow? Looks like the southern half of WI is going to get pounded. I have to finish plowing the field and my plow is on my 4000 that I move the stuff with. I did not use the S word...

Carl

Carl I'm about as ready as I'm getting the Backup Blade is on the ATV that I used for pushing the dirt back into the Electric Trench and that can due the job for plowing snow.

the Good Blade is still in storage and I may get that out this weekend.

but I have a blade on a ATV that I can use it's only a 48" blade and my tires are wider than that but it will work okay for a snow event or 2 if it has to.

I used the S word I'm not afraid!

 

[sublime68charger]

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On the sides cut back until 3/4" of the studs are exposed or sister up some 1/4 boards using SCREWS to attach. At the top, bottom. and in the middle run 1/4 cross bars attached to nailers or set in notches in the sister boards. At the bottom set the crossbar 1 1/2" below the cut and try to secure the bottom with glue. Insulate the stud bay. Cut a piece of drywall to fit and secure it in place with glue and a few drywall screws. Mud, tape, mud again and paint.

Sub: when you sister in a one by or two by id move the wires to the inside of the new boards. Id also move that outlet and square the piece off. When taping id use the fiberglass mesh style tapeand do several light coats stonkeep sanding and dust to minimun. It doesnt need to be perfect and will probably have a ridge at the joint, but youll probably end up with something in front of it later anyway. Probably a ton of youtube vids to watch if you need to see some.

Nice work on the trenching btw.

thanks for the tips bib and Drives!

will put them to good use when I get around to putting the wall back together!

 

[sublime68charger]

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So glad the electric trench is done!

Have 6" of the white stuff on the ground!

Took time today to get the home made Tobogan down from summer storage and pulled the kids around for 30 minutes,

I need to get my heated grips working again on the atv my hands where frozen by the end of the atv ride!

 

[Power Sedan]

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Loved the refurbishing of the garage, great article! Enjoying the white stuff over here across town as well! We only received 4-5 inches last night into this morning. Funny how last weekend I was in shorts and t-shirt prepping two vehicles exterior (sealant/waxing) for winter, in 62 degree weather.