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Yet another one, S&W Model 36 Airweight

LoneGunman

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Started this project tonight. It's for a buddy of mine, he picked it up cheap and it's going to be for his wife. The gun was cheap because the previous owner scribed their social security number in the side plate and the attempt at bobbing the hammer looks hideous.

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Being that this is going to a buddies wife I want this gun to obviously work flawlessly but I also want it to look good also. I'm not sure what I am going to do in the terms of plating, I am thinking about anodizing the frame in a dark blue and using electroless nickel on the rest of the gun. The biggest problem is I do not want to remove the barrel, S&W will not rebarrel these guns as the aluminum frame is very prone to twisting while attempting to remove the barrel. If S&W doesn't feel comfortable with it I'm not going to attempt it.

The problem is the aluminum frame and steel barrel will need to be plated as one piece, steel does not anodize. I need to mask the barrel with a brush on masking agent, anodize the piece, remove the masking agent and then plate with electroless nickel. I don't know how anodizing will be effected in the nickel bath so I'll need to do a test piece first.

First thing I did is to totally disassemble the gun, as you can see in pic number one I use a ziplock baggy when I remove a part under spring pressure, I have probably lost a month of my life looking for springs and pins that head off to parts unknown. I also use a baggy disassembling a new to me gun.

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To remove the scribing from the side plate I will use 180 grit sandpaper. I keep a piece of thick glass around for jobs like this. If I remove the scribing with my buffer odd are I'll have a wavy surface when I'm done. The only problem with my technique is if you have a piece that is very far from being flat, you'd need to remove too much material, all the high spots, to remove whatever it is you are attempting to remove.

As you can see in the pic I taped the sandpaper to the glass and used water mixed with dishwashing detergent. Then I just move the piece in circles, using more water as needed to clean the sandpaper and to replace what has gotten all over my bench.

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Now I need to strip the anodizing and bluing. Anodizing can be stripped with Sodium Hydroxide (lye). Lye is getting harder to find apparently because it is a key ingredient in the manufacturing of meth. It's easy to order online but I'm anxious to get started, my previous lye and water mixture is used up. Home Depot and Lowes may not carry Lye labeled as such anymore but they do carry drain openers that have Sodium Hydroxide as the main ingredient. I found a one pound can of granulated Draino that lists Sodium Hydroxide.

I mixed the Draino into 3 gallons of water. The frame and side plate were only submerged for two minutes which removed most of the anodizing. The rest of the anodizing was removed with the Lye mixture and an old tooth brush, really stubborn parts were removed with a brass wire wheel mounted in my Foredom.

You can check to see if the anodizing is gone with a multimeter set on the ohms setting. Anodizing is not conductive so if the part is still anodized you will not get continuity between your probes when placed on various parts of the piece. You cannot go by color as anodizing is clear, it's a dye that gives anodizing it's colors.

The bluing was removed from the barrel using Brownells bluing removal gel.


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Well that depends on who's definition you use, I'd say that I am but I won't work on a lot of things. I don't do rifles beyond coatings, platings and parts swapping, I don't chamber/rechamber, bed stocks etc. I don't work on high end double shotguns unless they are my own project jobs.

I had my own shop a few years ago, I combined the guns/gunsmithing with a pawnshop, lost my ****, went back to electrical work. I'm waiting on my new FFL, once that gets in I'll be doing gunsmithing part time out of a local shop until I get big enough to go out on my own full time again.
 

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Wow, I'd love to see some more of this project. I have a Series 70 Colt Gold Cup (my first hand gun) that is finished in factory bright nickel. The finish is starting to show its age (37 years old) and I'd like to get it refinished. The only problem is that I'm being told that nickel gold cups are quite rare (most people swear to me that they were never even made, but I've confirmed this guns past). Is it possible to refinish it in bright nickel and not detract from its value? I don't shoot it anymore, but I'd like to restore it to new condition.
 

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Kinda depends on what "look" you like?
Some old firearms have "character".....while others just look......well.......old!?

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Wow, I'd love to see some more of this project. I have a Series 70 Colt Gold Cup (my first hand gun) that is finished in factory bright nickel. The finish is starting to show its age (37 years old) and I'd like to get it refinished. The only problem is that I'm being told that nickel gold cups are quite rare (most people swear to me that they were never even made, but I've confirmed this guns past). Is it possible to refinish it in bright nickel and not detract from its value? I don't shoot it anymore, but I'd like to restore it to new condition.

I would not say bright nickel series 70 Gold Cups are plentiful but I also would not say they are rare. I run into a fairly large amount of people in the same situation as you. I look at it this way, if the gun is not pitted and just has bad or going bad nickel, there is no way anyone would be able to tell it was refinished if it was refinished properly.

If you were going to resell it and you told a collector it was refinished he'd *itch and moan how you ruined it and try to "steal" it. Sorry to say that a good amount of the collectors I know would have no problem reselling it as original if it looked original.

Are you ever going to sell the gun? Being that it's your first handgun I doubt you would so do with it whatever makes you feel good, who cares about the perceived value.
 

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Good points! I really don't think I'd ever sell it. It's not at all pitted aside from the main spring housing and that's an easy swap, so I'm not concerned about that at all. I just have a few spots where the nickel is lifting and I only really considdered getting it refinished to keep it from getting any worse.
As of now, the gun is nothing but a safe queen and as far as I'm concerned owes me nothing. It's had litteraly a hundred thousand rounds or more through it with not even a "tune up" since it was new, so she's been pretty much retired to this point.
Besides, it has more value to me than it will ever have to anyone that would be in the market for it.
 

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Well that depends on who's definition you use, I'd say that I am but I won't work on a lot of things. I don't do rifles beyond coatings, platings and parts swapping, I don't chamber/rechamber, bed stocks etc. I don't work on high end double shotguns unless they are my own project jobs.

I had my own shop a few years ago, I combined the guns/gunsmithing with a pawnshop, lost my ****, went back to electrical work. I'm waiting on my new FFL, once that gets in I'll be doing gunsmithing part time out of a local shop until I get big enough to go out on my own full time again.

I would love to hear the details of the pawn business, and what made in non-profit.
Also, I would like to see more on this project.
 
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