Yet another "What jack is this" thread ...

[Ladd]

Purchased this ******** of Craigslist last night. A modest layer of oil on the underside of hydraulic casing, but it's been holding up the rear of my 2000 Camry for over two hours without dropping at all so I guess it's OK.

The seller said he had had it "10 to 15 years", so if true, it's older, but not really that old. The label says Lincoln 93652, which made me think it would be a 3-ton jack, but the serial number plate says it is a two-ton (S/N = D652Y16116). The colors are somewhat Hein-Werner-ish with the inside of the wheels and T-Handle top being yellow, but the blue seems to be al little different. The current Hein-Werner HW93652 is a 3-ton jack, doesn't have a T-handle and the handle color scheme is different.

So when I need to purchase replacement parts or a hydraulic seal kit, what jack is this, exactly, and from what era is it?

Thanks.

 

[pop pop]

I'm not the expert here, Hiball is. But it looks to me as if you have several different jack parts combined. The basic frame is the same as my 93632 frames which are rated 1 1/2 tons. The yoke with the serial number appears to be the same as my 93642 which is rated at 2 tons. The label with 93652 is, I think, the 3 ton HW. The handle is different from any I have. Interesting piece of equipment. I think Hiball has a kit you could purchase the fits all from 93632 through 93652, so that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Hiball]

Your jack was built in December of 1986, It is a 93652 and has been Previously serviced at least Once in its History, the Vent doesn't appear to be OEM but simply a Bolt. The Jack is capable of producing 3 tons of lifting force, but it would need to have the Overload checked and Set accordingly. The "T" Handle was used for a short period and comes in very handy for maneuvering the Jack into place.

Any 93652 Seal Kit will fit your needs as there is No change from series to series. If I can be of more assistance don't hesitate to contact me via PM as I don't always see every thread.

 

[Steven67fr]

Hiball's knowledge of jacks is unreal... I'm always mind blown!!!

 

[Ladd]

Your jack was built in December of 1986, It is a 93652 and has been Previously serviced at least Once in its History, the Vent doesn't appear to be OEM but simply a Bolt. The Jack is capable of producing 3 tons of lifting force, but it would need to have the Overload checked and Set accordingly. The "T" Handle was used for a short period and comes in very handy for maneuvering the Jack into place.

Any 93652 Seal Kit will fit your needs as there is No change from series to series. If I can be of more assistance don't hesitate to contact me via PM as I don't always see every thread.

I thought that vent bolt seemed a little shiny compared to everything else!

Thanks for the information.

When you say the jack has been serviced previously, is that something found a database somewhere from the serial number or because of the non-OEM vent bolt? Or something else?

It appears to not make any difference, but any way to tell which model (A, B, C, etc.) this is?

 

[Hiball]

I thought that vent bolt seemed a little shiny compared to everything else!

Thanks for the information.

When you say the jack has been serviced previously, is that something found a database somewhere from the serial number or because of the non-OEM vent bolt? Or something else?

It appears to not make any difference, but any way to tell which model (A, B, C, etc.) this is?

My Guess would be its newer than C Series, That information would have been on the Yellow foil sticker on the Side.

When I was a Kid I would travel to St Louis with my Grandfather and we would stop in at the Lincoln Repair shop and pick up parts etc. I recall them applying that Sticker on the Lift Arm. It was strictly a guess that it had been serviced Previously based off the color around the sticker and underneath and that its still working after going on 27 years.

 

[Ladd]

My Guess would be its newer than C Series, That information would have been on the Yellow foil sticker on the Side.

Your tip about the yellow sticker solved which model number the jack is; a quick trip to the garage and a close examination of the yellow sticker on the side that only shows half the model number clearly has the info "Series E".

Now I know! Thanks for your help.

 

[ex-x-fire]

Looks like a variation of the Walker J-122.

 

[Hiball]

Looks like a variation of the Walker J-122.

J-122 is smaller in both frame, cylinder and stroke.

 

[Ladd]

OP here. Looks like I may have spoken too soon about how my new-to-me older Lincoln jack seemed to work OK. I went to move it to a different spot in the garage today and noticed a small puddle of oil underneath where it had been sitting. Maybe the gland nut just needs tightening; maybe the seals need to be serviced.

In either case, I'm going to need a tool to remove the gland nut.

What is the name of the tool that would fit into the grooves opposite each other on the gland nut? If I know what it is called, perhaps the local tool rental company would have one...

 

[Hiball]

OP here. Looks like I may have spoken too soon about how my new-to-me older Lincoln jack seemed to work OK. I went to move it to a different spot in the garage today and noticed a small puddle of oil underneath where it had been sitting. Maybe the gland nut just needs tightening; maybe the seals need to be serviced.

In either case, I'm going to need a tool to remove the gland nut.

What is the name of the tool that would fit into the grooves opposite each other on the gland nut? If I know what it is called, perhaps the local tool rental company would have one...

It was a factory tool, there is No spanner wrench that will touch a factory torqued tank nut.

Here is a thread where member Dave made a socket to fit the nut and also documented a rebuild. If your getting leakage around the ram its more than likely a failed seal, regardless it will need to be torn down to verify.

 

[EDGAR]

For anyone interested

The Lincoln 93632 used an u-cup sized 15/16" X 1- 7/16" x 1/4", part # 227919. This u-cup was used up to the Lincoln 93642 Series C. With the Lincoln 93642 Series D, the size of the u-cup was changed to 7/8" x 1- 1/2" x 1/4". Only a difference of 1/16" on the OD, but you can not use the early u-cup in a later pump. The 93652 Series E should use the later, larger u-cup, part # 228256.

Also, the big nut is torqued at the factory to 200-250 ft lb so it is better if you use an air impact tool to remove it. The best way is to remove the pump piston assembly so the pump can be set vertical on the floor with the nut facing up, of course, and then apply the impact wrench from above putting some weight on it so the modified socket does not jump out of the notches in the ram nut. Try to hold the pump body with your feet.

 

[Ladd]

The Lincoln 93632 used an u-cup sized 15/16" X 1- 7/16" x 1/4", part # 227919. This u-cup was used up to the Lincoln 93642 Series C. With the Lincoln 93642 Series D, the size of the u-cup was changed to 7/8" x 1- 1/2" x 1/4". Only a difference of 1/16" on the OD, but you can not use the early u-cup in a later pump. The 93652 Series E should use the later, larger u-cup, part # 228256.

Good to know. I've found half-a-dozen places on the Internet that sell the seal replacement kits for the Series E; I've always assumed that I would purchase the appropriate parts from Hiball.

Also, the big nut is torqued at the factory to 200-250 ft lb so it is better if you use an air impact tool to remove it. The best way is to remove the pump piston assembly so the pump can be set vertical on the floor with the nut facing up, of course, and then apply the impact wrench from above putting some weight on it so the modified socket does not jump out of the notches in the ram nut. Try to hold the pump body with your feet.

Thanks for the advice; it sounds really useful. Now to find a large socket that I can make the attempt to cut down to a useful configuration.

 

[redwrench60]

I used GeorgiaHybrid's thread that Hiball linked above to glance through like a service manual to get familiar with the procedure and then tore into my Lincoln 93642 (2 ton) using a seal kit and new brass vent from Hiball. Luckily my jack used a hex tank nut instead of the spanner type nut on yours.

I decided not to strip, sandblast and paint mine because it'll just get ugly again quick. Just a pressure wash and a rebuild. That's been well over a year ago. Here it is lifting the front a 3/4 ton truck with a heavily loaded utility bed. Weighs a little more than a Camry......