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You Can't Trust Internet Reviews

tarbellb

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Cancun....

1star “this resort was disgusting. People were drinking in the pool, girls were taking off their bikini tops. They played music all night and there were far to many stairs. I will never go back”

5stars: “this resort was awesome! Party all the time, all you can drink, hotties flashing their ****! I’m definitely going back next spring break”

You try to get a little R&R in a sleepy remote beach town and this **** happens 🤣
 
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niget2002

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Honestly. You can't trust most reviews. Doesn't matter if it's on the internet or not. Every review is tainted by the views of the person giving it. It's very difficult to be completely data driven in a review. And if you were completely data driven, few people would read/watch it.
 
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dnschmidt

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My belief is that most reviews (like TTC and Project Farm) attempt to be extremely fair. The question is are the tests they are doing relevant. All the guys that test till failure (like ratchets for example) to me mean nothing as I never abuse a tool. As previously stated I love the TTC but are what they're testing (in most cases I'm sure completely accurately) on any particular tool relevant to me.

I'll give an example of how what to one man is very important to another person is a problem. I gave Eric O. a lot of TOPTUL wrenches. His complaint was that the tolerances of the open ends were too tight for the rusted bolts and nuts he has to deal with. To me that tightness is a great feature (I live in Phoenix where rust isn't an issue) to him it keep him from using them as they didn't fit the rusty **** boxes he works on every day. No tool testing videos can address issues like this.
 

dchawk81

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My belief is that most reviews (like TTC and Project Farm) attempt to be extremely fair. The question is are the tests they are doing relevant. All the guys that test till failure (like ratchets for example) to me mean nothing as I never abuse a tool. As previously stated I love the TTC but are what they're testing (in most cases I'm sure completely accurately) on any particular tool relevant to me.

I'll give an example of how what to one man is very important to another person is a problem. I gave Eric O. a lot of TOPTUL wrenches. His complaint was that the tolerances of the open ends were too tight for the rusted bolts and nuts he has to deal with. To me that tightness is a great feature (I live in Phoenix where rust isn't an issue) to him it keep him from using them as they didn't fit the rusty **** boxes he works on every day. No tool testing videos can address issues like this.
I live a few hundred miles south of him still in the salt belt and wouldn't dream of using an open end on a rusty fastener.

Tight won't fit, looser will round off.
 

NUTTSGT

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About the only reviews I would pay attention to on YT are the regular people I subscribe too. I don't watch TTC and don't think I have ever watched one of his videos.

As for the other one mentioned, Project Farm, I don't know how anybody could stand to listen to his voice. . . . I keep waiting for him to say "Hey ladies, I'm from Saskachatoon."
 
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Semi-hole mechanic

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I once read a review for a motel, yes a MOTEL not a hotel, that I’d stayed at several times that I knew was very nice and clean and had been remodeled in the last 15 years or so but was constantly being kept up and shower curtains, bed spread, and TVs being updated. It was cheaper but nicer than the couple of other chain hotels in town. One of the reviews complained that it did not have a lounge or restaurant attached and that the complimentary breakfast was fruit and donuts with coffee, milk or juice to drink in the office. It was about $49 a night at the time compared to the two chain hotels that were not as nice at around $100 a night.

Another complained about the horse trailers and loud diesel pickups after having to stay there as it was the only available room in a small town with only three chain hotels and this one motel because they have a large quarterly horse sale in town that is attended by people from all over North America. It was the motel’s fault that everyone was getting up and headed to breakfast before headed to the sale barn while these weary, non-reservation, play-it-by-ear, travelers were trying to sleep in.
 
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wjjeep

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If it's from a decent brand, looks useful, within my price range, and I have a need for it, I buy it. I don't read product reviews.

I will look at Youtube videos to get a better idea of what a product looks like which is very helpful over a picture.
 

Rabid Badger

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Well there's the problem right there.

I've never found TTC's reviews abundantly accurate. They are based on how much money he receives from manufacturers to do a review..
Accusations like this are usually backed up by evidence.

For example, if I said something like, "Rancherbill has repeatedly embarrassed himself trying to disparage TTC on this forum."

I could back it up by pointing to the above post, as well as all of these:
The more I thought about this the more it's just YouTube nonsense to generate views.

Using Grade 8 bolts and coupling nuts make it pretty impossible for the not or the bolt to fail. The person is using a pretty big wrench extender and in the real world you would be breaking the bolt or the stripping the nut.

It really does not address the problem of stretch. It is just a silly test to generate views as many YouTube channels do nowadays.

Breaking something is not a test.

It is supposed to be a real world test. First of all the bolt should break or strip the treads. Why go through with the charade of making it look like a 'Real World" bolt. For what it's worth you could hook a wrench onto bucket of a really big excavator and break every one.

Secondly he could get the meter analyzer that machinists use and show the composition of the wrenches. I suspect that they all using a very similar alloy.

He even states in the beginning that he does not have the equipment to properly conduct the test.

Then some analysis by a forging guy that addresses the hardness and toughness that is done by the heat treating.

Accurate measurement of how much they spread and whether they return to dimension later.

Then armed with lots of data make some conclusions.

This video and many other vids on you tube are just adult versions of Science Fair projects. This one is as scientific as all the volcano projects you see - not a science project.

He is just creating a YouTube for him to make $3 per 1000 views

He is doing this as a business. Let me say that again, he is doing it for the money that YouTube is paying him for views. He is not investing in his business and is not producing a quality product.

Just as everyone is looking at the quality of the wrenches, you have to look at the quality of the test as a viewer.

I'm not going to discuss this further.
 

Rabid Badger

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I never see a disclaimer that he has not, does not , nor will no take any money for his objective reviews.
Are you trying to be cute? They've explained their policy of not accepting anything from tool manufacturers or vendors, including test samples, which they always acquire through normal retailers. Even the pre-production stuff they test comes to them through unofficial channels.

So no, you haven't seen it, but you sure as hell have heard it.
 

M635_Guy

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I never see a disclaimer that he has not, does not , nor will no take any money for his objective reviews.
:ROFLMAO: Clearly you're not watching. They say it in just about every video.

It begs the question of where you got your "information" that they were doing otherwise?
 
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