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Your thoughts on a used torch set.

gol4

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I had wanted a torch set for quite some time.
I saw a CL ad where a shop was going out of business and listed an acetylene torch with 4 tanks.
I called and he asked what I would offer. I told him I was looking at getting it for a couple hundred bucks, if it was not too beat up.
He paused and said he would do $200.
He said that the hoses had been replaced in the last year and the 2 extra tanks were empty but the other 2 were about 1/2 full
They had sold the building that his family had been in business since 1955 so he was retiring

I had to work the next morning so we agree to meet before work.
The torch was on a smaller 2 wheel cart. It's a B tank for acetylene and size 3 oxygen.
The hoses are dirty but appear in good shape.
The bin on the cart held an extra victor torch and several welding tips.
I ask about the other tanks and he has them stored in another room.
Turned out the other oxygen tank was full. He comments that’s $25 right there.
He fires up the torch to show me it works.
I gave him $200 and loaded them up and hurried to work feeling like I had got a pretty good deal.

That night, as I am checking things over closer, I begin to have regrets.

The bad:
The low pressure gauge on the acetylene regulator is not functioning (maybe regulating OK)
The oxygen regulator is the cheapie sold at Harbor Freight for $33.
Of the 6 welding tips only one actually fits one of the torches (other tips are purox)
Things like goggles and tip cleaners are so dirty and mangled, I threw them out.
I can't check operation any further until the new pressure gauge arrives.
I do not want to use it not knowing pressures are accurate.
More dollars spent on gauges and a few other things. I still have to buy some arrestors and various other supplies

The good:
I have 2 size b and 2 size 3 tanks.(weighed them and a little less than 1/2, extra oxygen is full)
The torches are Victor J100 and 100
The acetylene gauge is victor SR6B ( but may have further issues)
The 50 foot hose is in good shape.
The cart cleaned up ok so will use it.
There are 3 cutting tips that fit.
Have 4 good igniters and a chipping hammer.

The reason I am having remorse is I question if having a couple old victor torches and an older victor regulator (that hopefully works) and owning the tanks is a better value than buying a cheap new torch set (around 140 at Northern tool) and just renting the bottles.

I am even having thoughts that I will more than likely convert to oxy/propane hoses and tips.
I will do a few practice welds then all I will use it for is heating stuff up and an occasional cut or braze.

What are your thoughts?
Did I take a bad as a beat on this as I feel like I did?
Is a typical non professional user not wanting to break the bank wiser to take a chance on used equipment or buying a budget "import"?

Lastly do you think the best route for someone starting out would be to buy a quality type t hose,
ebay some regulators and a quality torch and then use a grill propane tank and a rental/ bought oxygen bottle?

I did not post pictures since I think everyone knows what a torch setup looks like.
 
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just a noob

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You probably have $500 worth of tanks there if they're the sizes I think they are. Can't really comment on the rest of the items you got.
 

Lx460

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Everybody owns a "used" set of torches. If they work, you're good. Hopefully the tanks are actually owned and not company tanks.
 

IOWNJUNK

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Might wanna make a call to see if maybe he has found some extra stuff since you picked it up. 5 tips that don't fit your torch sounds like he may have some more parts somewhere.
 

zkling

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Torch sets are one thing I think is actually better to buy new, unless it is in good condition and very cheap. Too many variables with high risks. I switched over to propane/oxy to get away from acetylene a few years ago.

IF you can get the tanks filled/swapped without hassle it was a good deal. For future reference you may want to call the local weld supply shops and learn what their policy is on common tank sizes being bought 2nd hand. It can greatly vary.
 
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gol4

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So far looks like I am over reacting and it is a good deal. Which was my first thought. I may agree more once my worries on the acetylene regulator are over. New gauges should be here tomorrow.
If I have to buy a new regulator and some new tips that puts me over $300 dollars invested. That is 1/2 a Hobart 140 that I have been putting off buying.

He assured me the tanks were owned by him and not rentals so I am not too worried. I checked for company names or rental etching, none found, but I will find out for sure when it is time for a fill.
Not looking forward to paying acetylene prices. Based on law of supply and demand you would think as less people use it for welding the price would drop.
 

bonneyman

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Yeah since that acetylene manufacturing plant blew up the whole country has had supplies shorten and prices have jumped. Don't know if that plant has been brought back on line.

Cough up the refill charge and get them filled. Having an oxy-acetylene rig ready to go is always a good thing to have around.
 
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Catadj78

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I think you got a steal especially with the tanks being owned and is making me remove from consideration an offer a guy I know gave me. He wanted 500 for Victor torch x2 and various cutting tips, rolling stand, 100ft hose and bottles that can not be filled.
 

skipnay

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You need to find a Praxair Dealer near you. They have these kits with torch, regulators, gauges for around $300 or less. I have a set and it works great. Also you can take your empty bottles in there and exchange them for full ones.
 

skruft

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I have bought many used torches and find that if I can't test them, quite often the regulators do not work. Other than that, they are a good deal.
 

gungatim

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I think you got a screaming deal. torch tips are consumables, just pickup what you need. toss the ones that don't fit in a box, you never know when you will come across another set. I've picked up numerous tips, bodys, guages, regulators, etc. dirt cheap just for parts. Keep your eyes open and you'll find stuff at yard sales and flea markets to scam guages and pieces off of. My first used set was cart, tanks (owned), hose, cutting and welding torch and a few tips for $175. that was 10+ years ago and was a good deal then. Probably the most useful tool in the shop!
 

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Yeah since that acetylene manufacturing plant blew up the whole country has had supplies shorten and prices have jumped. Don't know if that plant has been brought back on line.

Cough up the refill charge and get them filled. Having an oxy-acetylene rig ready to go is always a good thing to have around.
Acetylene prices in Houston are good now.
 
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