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I have become a big fan of Chassis Ears for this. The wireless ones are worth the cost over the corded version.
I've been looking into them more recently. Have run into a bunch of suspension issues that have been hard to track down. Also have a drivetrain whine that is driving me crazy, I would swear was coming from front axle but can't narrow it down because it's not there when I jack the truck up and put in drive. Especially with my hearing getting worse the older I get, and from being into car audio for years when I was younger. I've been looking at the steelman ones and the knockoffs on amazon.

Any advice on how you are using them for things like clunks or other noises? Just attach to car in places you think the noise may be? Say you have a clunk on the front end, you just stick one close to the sway bar link, one by control arm bushings, etc? I've been a little skeptical of how good they work since I've never used them. Guess I wonder how well they pinpoint a noise since everything that could cause a clunk is pretty close to each other and would think the mics would pick up noises from a component a few inches from it. But never used them so maybe I just don't fully understand how they work. But I don't like just replacing parts, even on an educated guess so nice to hear from someone that they do work good.
 
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Last week was mine and the wife's annual Ouray, CO trip. This year we would have a couple of RV'ing friends joining us a day or so after we arrived.

We were to leave on Friday morning and with the new Starlink setup on the coach, the wife can easily work from the road so I was just going to get the lawns mowed and then hit the road with the first stop for the evening in Green River, UT so we could have dinner at our favorite tavern as it has been six months since we had been there. It was also supposed to be 108 degrees in Green River that afternoon so I wanted to get through Spanish Fork Canyon and up and over Soldier's Summit before the triple digit heat fell upon us as that is a long and steep pull.

I had a few cups of coffee and enjoyed the back yard on the deck before commencing the trimming, edging and mowing of our lawns and my son was gracious enough to be willing to come over mid-week to run around them after he got off work and I didn't want him to worry about trimming and edging. I was partway through the mow when the wife can out of the house to show me all of these pictures of fire, flood and famine on freakin' social media. I knew there was a fire that started two weeks earlier on the northeast side of Highway 550 about 4-miles north of the town of Ouray, just across the street from the KOA entrance actually, where we used to stay. I had called the RV park that we now stay in and inquired and they informed me that the fire was in fact rather large, but was moving northeast, the opposite direction of the town of Ouray and at that time no evacuation was needed and as the fire crews mobilized and attacked the fire, the chance of evacuation was dropping daily and there was no worry about coming to the area.

I then heard of several days of heavy rain just several days before we were going to be there had created a mudslide at the burn scar which had the highway blocked for several hours during cleanup. I had again called the RV park to get an accurate update and they confirmed that the highway was cleared, the skies were blue and the fire was diminishing due to the several days of heavy rain. The nice woman at the RV park had also informed me that they also had a mudslide up on Red Mountain just at the switchbacks, but it too had also been cleared rather quickly. I knew exactly where she was talking about as we have been there during a "normal" year and after a long day of rain, I knew the area where silt and water would run across the road at the switchbacks as we would be driving back from Silverton to Ouray. Evidently several days of heavy rain was just a bit much for the ground to hold before letting go and this time it was more than silt and water, but again, the road crews had the area cleaned up in short order. My hat is off to those workers who maintain Highway 550 between Ouray and Silverton as that is always a lot of work. They don't call it the Million Dollar Highway for nothing. ;)

Anyway, as I was about halfway done with my yardwork the wife came out to show me pictures from FB and she was freaking out. I have stopped participating in social media for over a year now and unfortunately, she still is on it quite a bit so naturally she was anxious to say the least. We had to pay in full for our week's stay at the RV park and I knew the chances of getting a refund were slim to none if the road was open. I had called another location that we talked about going if it would make the wife less anxious and they had one site that had just become available, so I called the RV park in Ouray to discuss a refund and was told the weather was beautiful there, no issues with roads nor fire and they would stick to their "normal" cancellation policy, which meant no refund. Now I don't want to beat up on the campground because I know they have a very narrow window for their tourism revenue to be made, but on the flip side, I wasn't prepared to lose $1k dollars either, so I told the wife we were going and we would just be cognitive of the trails we ran while in the area and not put ourselves in harm's way. This did little to calm her, but she agreed. The trip was awesome with beautiful weather and scenery.

Upon arriving at the RV park in Ouray and talking with the owner who recognized us from previous years I had inquired about the social media aspect. I told her that I was reading the comments and when people were asking about their plans to visit the area that there were a lot of comments from people who seemed to be residents were telling people to stay away due to the fire and flooding and NOT to visit, yet we were standing there on Saturday afternoon in that beautiful canyon with fantastic weather. Yes, the area that flooded across Highway 550 just a few miles north of town was evident, but it was cleared away and the road was back to normal.

The wife and I were told that over the past several years there have been a lot of transplants moving into the area as people were retiring and buying retirement homes in the area to live in during the summer months and THOSE people were trying to deter the tourists from coming into "their" community. It sounds like there is some contention between long time residents who make their living on tourism and the new transplants coming into the area from other more affluent areas who are trying to dictate. Sound familiar???? Sounds like this is happening to a lot of areas. :mad:

Anyway, now to my pictures before I say something that gets me banned.



By the time I finally convinced the wife we were still going to Ouray and I finished the lawn it was almost noon. The Jeep hooked up to the coach while I showered and fixed me a cold drink for the road it was nearly 1pm before we pulled out of the driveway and already over 100-degrees at home. This was not going to be a fun drive, but I figured it would test out the coach's cooling system that I rebuild last year as well as the generator that I had worked on last year and haven't ran it for more than an hour or so at a time. I hooked up the Jeep, started the generator and kicked on 2 of the 3 roof airs before leaving the driveway so we would be comfortable for the 4-4.5 hour drive to Green River, UT.
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As we exited I-15 at Spanish Fork the outside temperature was 103-degrees and we headed east up Spanish Fork Canyon. The traffic was not terrible at all and speeds were at posted limits just meandering through the canyon. As we approached Soldier's Summit I began to get a bit nervous about coolant temps, they had been fine all day in the 180-195 range with only hitting 200-degrees on the gauge going over point of the mountain near Lehi, UT, but Soldier's Summit is a long grade climbing to 7500' before reaching the summit. The coach was running great and I was able to keep the coolant in check and went over the summit at 206-degrees. The generator had also been running perfectly for a couple of hours now providing nice cool A/C inside the coach. I had issues with the Onan 10kw generator for a few years where it didn't like to run for more than about 2-hours before shutting down on an overtemp condition. I had cleaned the radiator, flushed the coolant and gone over it a couple of times but still fought this condition. Last year when I tore the entire cabinet apart to perform the valve adjustment, I noted that some of the gasket/weatherstrip material inside the cabinet had deteriorated to the point of falling apart and much of it was missing. This gasket material is crucial to keep the airflow through the generator cabinet as designed by pulling the air across the radiator first, then across the engine and expelling it out the back and lower section of the cabinet. Any air leaks to the exterior will not pull the proper amount of air across the radiator and with missing or damaged weatherstripping inside the cabinet it will cause air to circulate inside the cabinet rather than pull in and push out as designed. I had replaced all of the deteriorated foam with a more durable Trim Lok EPDM/rubber style of weather-stripping last year and it seems to have worked well as the generator ran perfectly the entire trip. In fact on the drive home I kicked on all 3 rooftop A/C units and it never missed a beat.



As we pulled into Green River around 5pm it was 109 on the dash indicator. Freakin' hot for us Utahns from the northern parts.....
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We disconnected the Jeep, ran to the Vetere's melon stand and bought a watermelon and cantaloupe for the road and then hit Ray's Tavern for dinner. The meal and slowed pace was worth it.
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Back to camp to settle in the evening as the temps were still over 100-degrees we took note that we had neighbors on the street side of the coach. If people don't want to be stereotyped, why do they make it so damn easy. As we pulled up and were hooking up the Jeep I took note of the couple sitting outside next to us and they didn't look to be the cleanest of campers nor appeared to care too much about campground etiquette, so we just said our pleasantries, hooked up the Jeep so we were ready to hit the road on Saturday morning after grabbing some breakfast.

As the wife and I were relaxing and the wife was working for a bit on the computer, she mentioned that the neighbor was dragging his sewer hose around like he wasn't sure what to do. Then his "classy" wife came out and the two of them fiddle-farted around with the hose trying to get it to connect to the camper but then just stuffed the open end into the ground connection, which there are signs all over stating it must be connected to a rigid connector and sealed before dumping. NOPE, not these people, the rules didn't apply to them. :rolleyes:

I mentioned to the wife that she may not want to look because I highly doubted that the open ended hose would stay put in the ground opening and she may see more than she bargained for. I no sooner said the words when the guy pulled the valve and the hose popped off the camper end, which I didn't see coming, but it expelled the contents of their tank all over the ground under their camper. The wife came over and hurried and closed the valve while the guy stood there with the hose in his hand. She then lifted up the stairs slightly while he backed the camper up over the mess and they resumed their evening. Shortly afterwards they hooked back up to their boat and moved to a different site. While the wife and I were walking to the diner next door the next morning we ran into a camp-worker and mentioned that they may want to perform a cleanup in the site next to us and explained the situation. I hated to have to do that, but I would also hate to have been the next person to pull into that campsite not knowing the mess I was pulling into. They were the definition of pigs and were quite literally a "**** show".
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We couldn't check in until noon at the RV park in Ouray, so we decided to walk next door for a nice breakfast before departing Green River and hitting the road. The drive was uneventful, stopping in Grand Junction to take on fuel in the coach and stretching our legs.

We arrived in Ouray just before 1 pm and after getting setup went for a nice walk around the campground, running into some fellow RV'ers that we met a couple of years ago who were back. We had a nice relaxing dinner and then opted to sit around the rather large gas fire ring that the campground has as a communal area. We sat around it almost every night last year and met some great people from all over the U.S.

As the wife and I were sitting there enjoying the fire, someone shouted out there was a bear near the back row of RV's. Several people jumped up and ran into their RV's whereas the wife and I went to investigate. There was in fact, a good sized black bear sniffing around the RV a couple down from us but he got spooked and ran off towards the river, but not before I was able to get a quick picture.
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The next morning the wife and I headed up towards Mineral Creek to check out one of my favorite trails. Airing down for the first day of the week. This is always a mixed bag. Exciting because I love this area so much, but anxious because it tests every system of the vehicle. I've said it multiple times that SW Colorado wheeling is our proving grounds as it will not just test the whole package but each and every sub-system on your rig. And that it did to mine, more on that later.
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As we were nearing the turnoff to Phoukeepsie Gulch, the wife exclaimed that there was a vehicle rolled off the side of the road. I stopped as we were the only vehicle at that time and I wasn't sure if it just happened or was a previous incident, but it looked rather recent. I climbed down and saw no one inside or around, but what a mess. I still cannot determine how this happened as it was on a straight section with no turns and the road was plenty wide, even for this full-size Dodge truck. I'm guessing someone wasn't paying attention or looking at a map or the scenery, which unfortunately does happen more than people think.

Upon sitting around the campfire that evening, our friends arrived and we were sharing what we saw and another camper mentioned that it happened a couple days prior and resulted in a dual fatality. Sad.
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The waterfalls were less than spectacular this year due to the drought that is also affecting SW Colorado much like Utah. But still pretty.
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We ate at another one of our favorite establishments in Ridgeway and on the way back to camp we took a bypass along a county road where we often see wildlife in the evenings. Sure enough, about six nice sized bucks all in velvet.
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The next morning we headed over Corkscrew Gulch, Hurricane Pass and California Pass which is another of our favorite trails. We led our group which consisted of our two couples of RV friends who arrived the day prior. We explained what the trail consisted of and what to expect around the fire the night before and they informed my wife and I they knew what to expect and were fine with the trail we chose.
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As we were dropping down from California Pass into Animas Forks the skies opened up with heavy rain and then hail.
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Typical storm however, which lasted about 15-20 minutes and by the time we hit Animas Forks there was blue sky and warm, just in time to get the lawn chairs out for a lunch stop before hitting Silverton, airing up and heading back north on Highway 550 to Silverton.
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That night around the campfire we were informed that our fellow RV'ers preferred trails with less rocks and steep grades. :headscrat WTF? We're in the San Juan Mountains of SW Colorado, they are rough, steep and rocky. They asked if the next day would be more of the same and I informed them not only the same, but much more if it as it is a long day. The trail over Corkscrew, Hurricane and California was a total of about 17~ish miles off-road and the drive over to Lake City by way of Mineral Creek, Engineer Pass and Hurricane Pass back to Animas Forks and then Silverton was going to be roughly 70~ish miles of off-road. They bowed out, so the wife and I took off on the Alpine Loop by ourselves with the plan of stopping in Lake City for another of our eating establishments for lunch. Shortly after airing down and climbing a couple thousand feet, I looked out my window and a doe was standing so close I could have touched her on the nose, just looking at us and not bothered one bit.
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The flag at the top of Engineer Pass was something new. Very nice to see it actually.
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Stay tuned for some more pictures as we conclude our annual Ouray trip.
 
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Continuing on.

As we climbed Engineer Pass we also saw a black bear but it was quite a distance off and not clear enough to get a picture. I did snap a photo of this waterfall just outside Lake City that appeared to be flowing quite nicely.
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Lunch in Lake City did not disappoint. One of the best chicken fried steaks I've had and it is consistent year after year. The wife loves their pulled pork and cole slaw.
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As soon as we turned up off of county road 30 towards Cinnamon Pass this guy wandered across the road in front of us, not in too big of a hurry either. About a mile and a half further up the road we saw two moose lying down in the willows as well, but I couldn't get a decent photo op of them. We see a lot of animals on this trip, we even had a pig cross in front of us on Highway 550 just north of our campground one evening and wife and I both looked at each other and laughed because that is one we hadn't seen before in the area.
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The next day we were also on our own as our friends didn't want to do a "rocky" trail and opted to go into town to shop instead. The wife and I do not go on vacation to shop so that's not our thing, wheeling and enjoying fine places to dine are our things. If you ever get into Silverton, give the Golden Block Brewery a try for pizza. Fantastic. Also, Handlebars has a good burger if Golden Block is too busy.

We generally try to avoid Silverton when the train is in the station because of the shear number of people flooding the streets, but we stopped to assist a couple of groups on the trail that day and it put us into Silverton right in the middle of the afternoon. I was already thinking we would be eating at Handlebars instead of Golden Block due to the time, but we walked right in and was seated immediately at Golden Block Brewery. I asked the waitress how that was possible and she informed me that the whole area was down on numbers and have been most of the summer. Neither Silverton nor Ouray did their annual large fireworks show due to fire restrictions and then with the fire and heavy rain there were a lot of cancellations throughout the entire area. We mentioned that the RV park that we stayed at in Ouray had several open sites each night and that never happens.

The pizza was as good as we remembered.
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This was above the restrooms near the bar and pretty much says it all.
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The second to last day our friends wanted us to take them on an "easy" trail so we opted to take them on Last Dollar Road over to Telluride and then we'd turn them left at the highway and they could go in and walk around and have lunch in Telluride, but we informed them we would not be joining them, when they asked why I simply said "because it's Telluride", and left it at that. Then turned and burned and looked for another trail to play on for the afternoon on the way back to town. :3gears: This sign caught our attention when we were airing down. It was actually quite a ways off the trail and the brush had grown around it making it hard to see. Had we not stopped right there in the wide spot to air down, we may have completely missed it.
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The Ross cabin from the beginning of the original True Grit movie.
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The group wanted to go to dinner on their last night there and our suggestion was True Grit in Ridgeway. Their pork green chili stew is amazing, so much in fact we usually get a few quarts to go and take some home, and share with our kids. The wife and I shared a bowl of it with a tortilla.
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Then split a southwestern chicken fried chicken with baked potato, both smothered in pork green chili. Seeing a pattern here????
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Our last day in Ouray we headed slightly northeast of Ridgway heading towards Montrose. This is just north of where the fire was a few weeks ago and where there are still some smoldering areas where fire fighters are working. The smoke in the air was evident but not terrible. As we hit Highway 50 east of Montrose, we aired up and with it being around noon I suggested that we visit the Black Canyon of the Gunnison as it had been about 12 years since we were there last. The canyon was as beautiful as ever, other than some areas from the fire last year were just starting to recover.
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The last night at camp after cleaning the coach and getting it ready for the drive home, we wandered over and sat around the fire until dark.
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The drive home was also uneventful, which is the way we like them. We pulled the coach out, hooked up the Jeep and hit the road right at 7 am. We made great time and arrived in Green River, UT around 10:30 so we stopped for a late breakfast and then purchased another watermelon and a few cantaloupes to enjoy at home. We also fired up the generator as it was getting warm and this time I kicked all three rooftop A/C's on to really push our luck and give the genny the ultimate test. Passed with flying colors. We arrived home and I kept the generator and A/C's running while we unloaded and then gave the ole' girl a wash and parked it back in the shop, ready for the next trip.


Thanks for following along. Sorry, I didn't have many pictures from this year's trip as I have been taking less pictures lately and just enjoying the time with the wife and creating memories.
 
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I have become a big fan of Chassis Ears for this. The wireless ones are worth the cost over the corded version.

Agreed. I have a set of Chassis Ears and they have their place for finding odd noises. I use them on occasion, but not as much as I thought I would when I purchased them. I bought mine about 20-years ago and have the hardwired version as the wireless were not available at that time. I have talked to a couple of people who have the wireless and they are less impressed than the hardwired version. One guy said he bought the wireless a few years ago after having his wired version for a long time and ended up selling it shortly after because the background noise and static was terrible, so I haven't bothered looking to get the wireless version.



I've been looking into them more recently. Have run into a bunch of suspension issues that have been hard to track down. Also have a drivetrain whine that is driving me crazy, I would swear was coming from front axle but can't narrow it down because it's not there when I jack the truck up and put in drive. Especially with my hearing getting worse the older I get, and from being into car audio for years when I was younger. I've been looking at the steelman ones and the knockoffs on amazon.

Any advice on how you are using them for things like clunks or other noises? Just attach to car in places you think the noise may be? Say you have a clunk on the front end, you just stick one close to the sway bar link, one by control arm bushings, etc? I've been a little skeptical of how good they work since I've never used them. Guess I wonder how well they pinpoint a noise since everything that could cause a clunk is pretty close to each other and would think the mics would pick up noises from a component a few inches from it. But never used them so maybe I just don't fully understand how they work. But I don't like just replacing parts, even on an educated guess so nice to hear from someone that they do work good.

Scott, the key is to clip the sensors directly on the component and then anything else in the immediate area and when switching through the channels, I like to go by a "better" or "worse" method until I narrow down the actual noise. It is noticeable as you get either closer or further away from the source of the noise which is why you want to use multiple sensors and not rely solely on one.
 

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As the wife and I were relaxing and the wife was working for a bit on the computer, she mentioned that the neighbor was dragging his sewer hose around like he wasn't sure what to do. Then his "classy" wife came out and the two of them fiddle-farted around with the hose trying to get it to connect to the camper but then just stuffed the open end into the ground connection, which there are signs all over stating it must be connected to a rigid connector and sealed before dumping. NOPE, not these people, the rules didn't apply to them. :rolleyes:

I mentioned to the wife that she may not want to look because I highly doubted that the open ended hose would stay put in the ground opening and she may see more than she bargained for. I no sooner said the words when the guy pulled the valve and the hose popped off the camper end, which I didn't see coming, but it expelled the contents of their tank all over the ground under their camper. The wife came over and hurried and closed the valve while the guy stood there with the hose in his hand. She then lifted up the stairs slightly while he backed the camper up over the mess and they resumed their evening. Shortly afterwards they hooked back up to their boat and moved to a different site. While the wife and I were walking to the diner next door the next morning we ran into a camp-worker and mentioned that they may want to perform a cleanup in the site next to us and explained the situation. I hated to have to do that, but I would also hate to have been the next person to pull into that campsite not knowing the mess I was pulling into. They were the definition of pigs and were quite literally a "**** show".


Geez...there is no excuse for that! :eek: :mad: It's not like there aren't a zillion videos on YouTube, or websites that explain how to use a sewer connection on an RV. :twak:

I didn't know any of this when we bought ours earlier this year, so I read, watched many videos, and asked the experienced people a lot of questions prior to our first trip. I also had a friend supervise me at the campsite and dump station for my first time to be sure I didn't create a literal sh*t show.
 

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Mike, no need to apologize for the lack of additional pictures - what you posted is great and, as always, stunning! Thanks for sharing.
Lori and I are in Alaska at the end of a 10 day Alaska cruise/rail tour. Once I get a chance to organize thoughts and pics, I'll post an update.
Glad your trip went well!
 

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Mike, when we were in the area a few weeks ago is when the rain started. We rode the Durango/Silverton train north from Durango, but the tracks were out due to the mudslides about 10mi south of Silverton. I would bet the tracks aren't clear yet, the spot we had to turnaround at was pretty much out in the middle of nowhere.

We had rain on our excursion to the Animas Forks as well. Ate at the Pickel Barrel while there.

We had planned to take the Million Dollar Highway north through Ouray and then over to Montrose and on east, but the roads were still closed MM 75-91 or 71-95...can't remember which.
 
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Geez...there is no excuse for that! :eek: :mad: It's not like there aren't a zillion videos on YouTube, or websites that explain how to use a sewer connection on an RV. :twak:

I didn't know any of this when we bought ours earlier this year, so I read, watched many videos, and asked the experienced people a lot of questions prior to our first trip. I also had a friend supervise me at the campsite and dump station for my first time to be sure I didn't create a literal sh*t show.

To be honest Vincent, I didn't get the impression they really cared about what they were doing, let alone trying to be clean and tidy about it. It was absolutely disgusting, which is why I mentioned it to the camp-worker. I would have hated to be the next person to pull into that site without it being clean and sanitary, well as sanitary as dirt/gravel can be. When the wife and I pulled in and were reconnecting our Jeep to the coach they had a massive dog that had walked over right near my service bay and took a ****. If we hadn't been pulling in just as that took place I highly doubt they would have picked up after their damn dog, they appeared to be of that caliber.
 
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Mike, no need to apologize for the lack of additional pictures - what you posted is great and, as always, stunning! Thanks for sharing.
Lori and I are in Alaska at the end of a 10 day Alaska cruise/rail tour. Once I get a chance to organize thoughts and pics, I'll post an update.
Glad your trip went well!

Thanks Gary. Hope your Alaska trip is going well. I'm jealous as that is our bucket list trip as soon as we retire. We've had friends take cruises and fly into Alaska that have asked us to join them, but the wife and simply can't do unless we do it the way we've always imagined and planned, seeing it by way of our coach. Looking forward to seeing your pictures.



Mike, when we were in the area a few weeks ago is when the rain started. We rode the Durango/Silverton train north from Durango, but the tracks were out due to the mudslides about 10mi south of Silverton. I would bet the tracks aren't clear yet, the spot we had to turnaround at was pretty much out in the middle of nowhere.

We had rain on our excursion to the Animas Forks as well. Ate at the Pickel Barrel while there.

We had planned to take the Million Dollar Highway north through Ouray and then over to Montrose and on east, but the roads were still closed MM 75-91 or 71-95...can't remember which.

When you text me Marc, I wondered if you got caught up in that storm or missed it. We've been there so many times when it has rained for a full day or half a day and not gotten much more than a little stream of water along the highway or trails. Only a handful of times had the water and silt run across Highway 550 at the top of Red Mountain near the switchbacks, but from my understanding at this year it was multiple days of non-stop rain which escalated the issue beyond what the ground could hold, especially in the burn scar north of Ouray.
 

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Agreed. I have a set of Chassis Ears and they have their place for finding odd noises. I use them on occasion, but not as much as I thought I would when I purchased them. I bought mine about 20-years ago and have the hardwired version as the wireless were not available at that time. I have talked to a couple of people who have the wireless and they are less impressed than the hardwired version. One guy said he bought the wireless a few years ago after having his wired version for a long time and ended up selling it shortly after because the background noise and static was terrible, so I haven't bothered looking to get the wireless version.





Scott, the key is to clip the sensors directly on the component and then anything else in the immediate area and when switching through the channels, I like to go by a "better" or "worse" method until I narrow down the actual noise. It is noticeable as you get either closer or further away from the source of the noise which is why you want to use multiple sensors and not rely solely on one.
Thanks for the info Mike, and good to know about the wired vs wireless quality. I was looking at the wireless and see steelman makes two versions, the original and what looks like a newer version they call pro. I was kind of leaning towards the wireless version just for the sake of not having to secure wires all the way up to the interior of the car. The wireless pro is just above 400, the older wireless is around 260, and the wired is 99. I thought I remembered the wired being high in price so I was leaning towards the wireless but might just pick up the wired version for as little as I expect to use it and now that you mention the wireless didn't seem to perform as well.
 
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Thanks for the info Mike, and good to know about the wired vs wireless quality. I was looking at the wireless and see steelman makes two versions, the original and what looks like a newer version they call pro. I was kind of leaning towards the wireless version just for the sake of not having to secure wires all the way up to the interior of the car. The wireless pro is just above 400, the older wireless is around 260, and the wired is 99. I thought I remembered the wired being high in price so I was leaning towards the wireless but might just pick up the wired version for as little as I expect to use it and now that you mention the wireless didn't seem to perform as well.

You're welcome Scott. I'll admit, the wired can be a PITA, especially routing so nothing catches the wires or they don't get pinched, which is probably why I don't use it often. Most noises can be identified without the Chassis Ears, but when I get one that is not as easy to track down, they are worth the cost. I can't remember what I paid as it's been so long ago. I remember being interested in the wireless one a few years ago and thought maybe if it was less intrusive that maybe I would utilize it more, but then I spoke to a friend with a local shop that had both and he didn't speak too highly of the wireless one which is why he sold it kept the original wired version.
 

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While I can’t speak for the land part of an Alaskan cruise/rail trip, I can speak very highly of Alaskan cruises. My wife and I go every other year, and mostly do the same cruise. We are blown away by the beautiful scenery there. If you have any cruise questions, feel free to reach out!

Great pictures and looks like a great trip Mike!
 
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Great photos Mike, looks like a very scenic trip. Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you. Yes, it was very scenic and even the wife mentioned multiple times throughout the week that she was glad we didn't end up cancelling.



While I can’t speak for the land part of an Alaskan cruise/rail trip, I can speak very highly of Alaskan cruises. My wife and I go every other year, and mostly do the same cruise. We are blown away by the beautiful scenery there. If you have any cruise questions, feel free to reach out!

Great pictures and looks like a great trip Mike!


Thank you, but no cruise questions as I have no plans to ever go on one. Not my style of "vacationing". Not criticizing anyone who chooses to do so, they're just not for me or my wife.
 

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Looks like a great trip Mike!

My coach normally runs at that ~199-203 temp no matter where I am. The only time I've had it go any higher was when the trans temp get's elevated from crawling up grades and sometimes from extended exhaust brake (and trans holding back).

Another radiator clean is in my near future. I still can't seem to get rid of the dang sand from our annual Destin trips. Seems to come out of nowhere even after I've cleaned everything up.
 
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Looks like a great trip Mike!

My coach normally runs at that ~199-203 temp no matter where I am. The only time I've had it go any higher was when the trans temp get's elevated from crawling up grades and sometimes from extended exhaust brake (and trans holding back).

Another radiator clean is in my near future. I still can't seem to get rid of the dang sand from our annual Destin trips. Seems to come out of nowhere even after I've cleaned everything up.

Thanks Keith, yeah, it was an awesome trip and glad we ended up not cancelling due to what was posted on social media.

Our coach usually runs in the 180-195 range unless pulling a grade and even then it usually stays in the low 200's (203-204) and then immediately drops as soon as the grade is crested. There are a couple of pulls that really test it when ambient temps get at or above 100-degrees however, but they are far and few between thankfully. On those grades, just grabbing a lower gear and keeping the RPM's up a bit is all that is required. I usually give my radiator a good cleaning once or twice a season depending on the times we get caught in adverse weather and road conditions. Another reason I would only have a side radiator vs. a rear radiator which most diesel pushers have.
 
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My granddaughter had her 4-month checkup earlier this week. I updated her height on my shop door frame.
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We get to have our grandson all day tomorrow so I'll have to update his. When I mention measuring him, he goes right to the drawer under the workbench and grabs the square. :love:
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My old 2006 Silverado 2500HD Duramax rolled over the 150k mile mark this morning as I was pulled away from the driveway.

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Wow. 7500 miles a year on average. That's nuts!

We have a story board of kids heights in our kitchen that's been around since ~2009. There's kids on there that our kids aren't even friends with any more, but it's a cool part of the history of the family. I'm trying to figure out a way to preserve it when I redo the kitchen.
 
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Wow. 7500 miles a year on average. That's nuts!

Keith, it's been a bit more than that over the past several years as it is now my daily driver, closer to around 12k lately. I purchased the truck with 58k on it in 2009 where the original owner drove the **** out of it for only being 3 years old. Back then I had my 1991 shortbed (GMT400) that was slammed and tricked out and I used that as my daily driver/shop truck for my business. Then I sold that truck just before moving in early 2016 and used the Jeep as my main daily driver. I shifted a couple of years ago to preserve miles on the Jeep and started driving the truck a bit more.
 
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Continuing on.

As we climbed Engineer Pass we also saw a black bear but it was quite a distance off and not clear enough to get a picture. I did snap a photo of this waterfall just outside Lake City that appeared to be flowing quite nicely.
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Lunch in Lake City did not disappoint. One of the best chicken fried steaks I've had and it is consistent year after year. The wife loves their pulled pork and cole slaw.
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As soon as we turned up off of county road 30 towards Cinnamon Pass this guy wandered across the road in front of us, not in too big of a hurry either. About a mile and a half further up the road we saw two moose lying down in the willows as well, but I couldn't get a decent photo op of them. We see a lot of animals on this trip, we even had a pig cross in front of us on Highway 550 just north of our campground one evening and wife and I both looked at each other and laughed because that is one we hadn't seen before in the area.
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The next day we were also on our own as our friends didn't want to do a "rocky" trail and opted to go into town to shop instead. The wife and I do not go on vacation to shop so that's not our thing, wheeling and enjoying fine places to dine are our things. If you ever get into Silverton, give the Golden Block Brewery a try for pizza. Fantastic. Also, Handlebars has a good burger if Golden Block is too busy.

We generally try to avoid Silverton when the train is in the station because of the shear number of people flooding the streets, but we stopped to assist a couple of groups on the trail that day and it put us into Silverton right in the middle of the afternoon. I was already thinking we would be eating at Handlebars instead of Golden Block due to the time, but we walked right in and was seated immediately at Golden Block Brewery. I asked the waitress how that was possible and she informed me that the whole area was down on numbers and have been most of the summer. Neither Silverton nor Ouray did their annual large fireworks show due to fire restrictions and then with the fire and heavy rain there were a lot of cancellations throughout the entire area. We mentioned that the RV park that we stayed at in Ouray had several open sites each night and that never happens.

The pizza was as good as we remembered.
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This was above the restrooms near the bar and pretty much says it all.
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The second to last day our friends wanted us to take them on an "easy" trail so we opted to take them on Last Dollar Road over to Telluride and then we'd turn them left at the highway and they could go in and walk around and have lunch in Telluride, but we informed them we would not be joining them, when they asked why I simply said "because it's Telluride", and left it at that. Then turned and burned and looked for another trail to play on for the afternoon on the way back to town. :3gears: This sign caught our attention when we were airing down. It was actually quite a ways off the trail and the brush had grown around it making it hard to see. Had we not stopped right there in the wide spot to air down, we may have completely missed it.
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The Ross cabin from the beginning of the original True Grit movie.
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The group wanted to go to dinner on their last night there and our suggestion was True Grit in Ridgeway. Their pork green chili stew is amazing, so much in fact we usually get a few quarts to go and take some home, and share with our kids. The wife and I shared a bowl of it with a tortilla.
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Then split a southwestern chicken fried chicken with baked potato, both smothered in pork green chili. Seeing a pattern here????
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Our last day in Ouray we headed slightly northeast of Ridgway heading towards Montrose. This is just north of where the fire was a few weeks ago and where there are still some smoldering areas where fire fighters are working. The smoke in the air was evident but not terrible. As we hit Highway 50 east of Montrose, we aired up and with it being around noon I suggested that we visit the Black Canyon of the Gunnison as it had been about 12 years since we were there last. The canyon was as beautiful as ever, other than some areas from the fire last year were just starting to recover.
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The last night at camp after cleaning the coach and getting it ready for the drive home, we wandered over and sat around the fire until dark.
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The drive home was also uneventful, which is the way we like them. We pulled the coach out, hooked up the Jeep and hit the road right at 7 am. We made great time and arrived in Green River, UT around 10:30 so we stopped for a late breakfast and then purchased another watermelon and a few cantaloupes to enjoy at home. We also fired up the generator as it was getting warm and this time I kicked all three rooftop A/C's on to really push our luck and give the genny the ultimate test. Passed with flying colors. We arrived home and I kept the generator and A/C's running while we unloaded and then gave the ole' girl a wash and parked it back in the shop, ready for the next trip.


Thanks for following along. Sorry, I didn't have many pictures from this year's trip as I have been taking less pictures lately and just enjoying the time with the wife and creating memories.
Quick question Mike, I heard a rumor that they have done some work on Mineral Creek toward Engineer Pass removing some obstacles. Did you see any evidence of that?

My family spent a week in that area a few weeks ago on our way to a family reunion. We arrived the day the storm closed 550 and were “stuck” in Ouray for a day. That storm was epic. We also noticed the reduced number of people.
 
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Quick question Mike, I heard a rumor that they have done some work on Mineral Creek toward Engineer Pass removing some obstacles. Did you see any evidence of that?

My family spent a week in that area a few weeks ago on our way to a family reunion. We arrived the day the storm closed 550 and were “stuck” in Ouray for a day. That storm was epic. We also noticed the reduced number of people.

Yes, there are a couple of obstacles on Mineral Creek that have been "altered" over the years. It's much easier now, but they left a few as "options" or as I like to call them "extra credit", but there are go-arounds. It is still one of my favorite trails as the scenery is just spectacular.


White gravy, Mike? 🤣



It wasn't a choice Scott, it was a lack of options. :LOL: Although it was pretty decent country gravy.
 
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He even said it was the best he ever had too! He admitted that white gravy is better than brown gravy on a chicken fried steak! :giggle: :ROFLMAO:

Don't be putting words in my mouth there Cody, I said the chicken fried steak was one of the best I ever had, but the gravy was "pretty decent". I'm not going to go as far as say the best. Now only IF it had brown gravy, it would be in contention for the "best". :bounce:
 
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I hope everyone had a great weekend. The wife and I got to have our grandson for the whole day on Saturday which was a real treat for us. He loves coming to Grandma and Papa's house and we love to have him. We hope that in a few years his little sister will feel the same way and we can have them both on occasion. He wears us out, but he is so much fun and just wants to be going and doing constantly. He wants to be in the middle of everything and asks so many questions and I love seeing how his mind works. I love the fact that he enjoys playing in the shop and spending time with me there. I pray that as he grows older that will continue and he will allow me to teach him.

I was able to meet my son and grandson for breakfast on Saturday morning and then my grandson rode home with me and he loves riding in Papa's Jeep, although he is very particular about the window positions and will let you know just how far he wants the windows down. :LOL:

Upon arriving home I had to mow the lawns and he wanted to help. I asked that he hang out with Grandma in the house while I trimmed and edged the lawns, but as soon as he heard the mower start he ran to grab his shoes and told his Grandma that Papa was mowing the lawn and he had to get outside. He actually beat my wife out the door he was so excited. He helped me steer the mower and loved mowing the lawn with me. :love:

We were just finishing up the front yard when a guy came to pick up his Jeep that I had been working on much of the week. Unfortunately, the Jeep was still non-running as I had diagnosed it, but he wanted to pick it up and take care of the remainder of the repair, which was good because I didn't want to deal with the dealership and programming the security system.

My grandson was so inquisitive and curious as we winched the Jeep up onto the gentleman's trailer. He then helped me to tie down the front corner and cranked the stabalizer jack on the rear of the trailer up. Later he helped me fix a rock chip in the wife's windshield from a rock on Friday evening and was curious about the blue (UV) light I was using. We had intentions of working on the yard tractor but ended up not having enough time, so that will have to wait until next time.


Obligatory lawn pictures. I am also quite proud of the fact that we are nearing the 80% way through our seasonal water allocation for irrigation and I am only sitting at 62% of my allocated water usage, even being able to keep a relatively green lawn.

Sunday morning enjoying the fruits of our labor.
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Sunday night sitting on the deck enjoying the evening before the workweek begins again.
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Some pictures from last week's work.

2008 Jeep Wrangler from a local gentleman who is our on national Jeep club. He contacted me a couple of months ago to look at his non running JKUR but I didn't have time. He had me add him to my list, but in the meantime he had taken it to two other shops. One shop put a fuel pump in it and another shop threw a TIPM (Totally Integrated Power Module) as well as a new starter motor in the Jeep, neither of which solved the problem.

To say this thing is beat to hell would be an understatement, but it looks like some people view the flogging as a badge of honor. Maybe it's the old "hot rodder" in me or something, but my philosophy is just the opposite. As much as I love off-roading, I simply cannot beat on a vehicle in any manner.


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A LOT of accessories thrown at this one, but unfortunately in the Jeep world, this seems to be more the norm than not.
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As beat on and as much abuse as this thing has seen, the electrical was the worst part. The previous owner has thrown a ton of mods at it and the current owner then added his take on what it needed and therefore not much is OE at this point. He installed a double battery tray and used the back battery position to add in all of the power for the accessories.
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Right when the owner was dropping it off last week we were discussing the symptoms and I touched a couple of electrical components and it started smoking profusely and I was ready to push it back out of the shop before it burned my shop down. Turned out the trickle charger touched something it shouldn't have and burnt the wiring. I disconnected it as well as many of the aftermarket accessories in order to focus on the OEM portion of the electrical system to diagnose the problem.
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Are you guys seeing what I saw immediately? Look at the block on the battery post and look at the small gauge battery cable connecting it to the long distribution bar. Then look at all of the loads on the distrubution bar. :oops:
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This little #4 cable is all that is connecting all those loads to the battery post.
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Also while the owner was standing right there, I grabbed a positive wire that looked a little suspicious to me and it immediately fell out of the crimped lug. This went to the Warn winch on the front bumper so I left it disconnected for the time being.
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Same scenario on the positive battery supply. All of the loads on the terminal bar but a single #4 cable connecting it to the battery post.
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With as many things that were iffy, I thought immediately I would be looking at a ground issue. Just to confirm the main ground had good integrity and that the brand new starter motor would turn the engine over, I threw in my test relay to confirm power and ground were good, at least on the load side.
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After printing off a bunch of wire schematics I went to work confirming both power and grounds to the TIPM.
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In conjunction with a VOM meter to confirm readings, I also like to use a make shift light bulb to confirm the circuits will carry current.
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I had wires going everywhere to check and double check powers and grounds.
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In the end, I determined that powers and grounds appeared to be in good condition, but I was not getting the control side from the TIPM to engage the RUN/START as well as the START relays. Upon further research I found they need a proper signal from the WCM (Wireless Control Module) also called the Immobilizer in some vehicles, in order to be satisfied to the point of allowing the control side (negative signal) to the relay bases.

After confirming the WCM was the problem and relaying that he would probably need to take it to the dealership to program it he opted to pick it up and take care of that himself, which I was perfectly okay with. My Autel "may" have been able to program the module but not without the 4-digit security code for the Jeep which the owner did not have. The dealership should be able to perform the needed work.

I have to admit, I have not been that deep into the electrical in a Jeep JK before so it was a good learning opportunity.

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I'd like to see how hot those wires get while trying to run multiple items at a time!

Not me Marc, I didn't need to see how hot they would get, one burning was enough. This vehicle made me nervous enough that each night before closing up shop I disconnected BOTH battery connections.


***On edit Marc, I would also make mention that not only are the crimps on the terminals very poorly performed, but the absolute cheapest battery lugs were used.

I always tell people to spend a little more money on good quality battery lugs as it will save time and money in the long run. What people don't understand is that most crimp tools will crush to a predetermined diameter in order to crush the copper strands and battery lug to one solid connection. Most tools are made in a way that the wall thickness of the battery lug is going to be a certain thickness so when compressed that puts enough pressure on the wire strands. When a much thinner (ie. cheaper) battery lug is used, this thickness is nowhere near the target wall thickness and therefore the overall quality of the crimp is sub-standard and is not going to function properly nor last.

Holy ****, have these people never heard of a fuse?

What's funny is the wire that burnt had an inline 15 amp fuse and it didn't blow. :LOL:


What are the accessories that require that much power? Looks like enough wiring for the International Space Station.

Scott, there were so many accessories and gadgets on this thing I lost count. Not only that, I disconnected everything except the OEM battery connections and just focused on identifying the actual no crank/no start condition. I was not in the least bit concerned with any of the "add-ons". He can play with them himself.
 
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Mike your diagnostic skills for wiring are "hot!!" LOL!!! when seeing all those wires... it keeps me "grounded" knowing the limit on my wiring skills! LOL!!! Seriously your diagnostic & trouble shooting skilset is always impressive!!! curious.... did the customer "appreciate" the actual work that you did for him? meaning: understand that you didn't just throw a part at it like the others before you and actually cared to helped him... not in a mean way.... ;)
 
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Did the owner have to swap out his “Angry” grille for the OEM one before his Jeep was allowed into your shop? 😂


Ha, ha. Sterling, at least that is the one Jeep accessory he didn't have on it. Although, he did mention he has been having some overheating issues so maybe he did remove it before bringing it to my shop.... :unsure:



Mike your diagnostic skills for wiring are "hot!!" LOL!!! when seeing all those wires... it keeps me "grounded" knowing the limit on my wiring skills! LOL!!! Seriously your diagnostic & trouble shooting skilset is always impressive!!! curious.... did the customer "appreciate" the actual work that you did for him? meaning: understand that you didn't just throw a part at it like the others before you and actually cared to helped him... not in a mean way.... ;)

Thank you. I have to be honest however, electrical is still what I feel is my weak area of my skillset. I have come a long way over the years, but I think electrical is still the area I feel I need the most work. This one did put my skills to the test however. Between going through a series of electrical diagrams trying to find the common points, and then working backwards to test power and grounds, it was a good excercise for me.


And I don't want to just throw the owner completely under the Jeep, he's a good guy and not totally inept. He did most of the suspension work himself and did a fair job, but I don't think electrical is his strong suit.

As for the time when the bill came, he was more than generous. I gave him the bill and he insisted on giving me a little more, even though I told him I wasn't able to work on it all week. I only worked on it Tuesday and Thursday evenings for about 3-4 hours total, including going through wiring schematics.
 
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