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Thank you for sharing your story. I have been doing much reflection and self-diagnosis lately and I am actively working on my mindset when things do not go as planned. Seems like dealing with unexpected **** in the industrial world is just normal, but when it happens to my personal fleet for some reason I take it personal and think the universe is attacking me. I need to change that mindset and look at the things I can control rather than reacting to the situation out of emotion.

I fully agree with you on the section I highlighted in bold. Something I am working on as well. Give me all the chaos at work and I am laughing and scaring people with how happy and low stress I am but the smallest thing at home and I have to remember that it's okay and normal for $hit to happen at home too.

For me, I feel like that stems from understanding construction and commissioning of mining equipment is controlled chaos and there is very little inside what I can control. Whereas at home, I view "everything" as under my control as it's my home.

Best thing I did was change my mindset to no matter what happens, I can control my reaction to it. Can either be pissed off and mad or laugh at it, grab the tools, and move on. That was huge for me, not only with house and shop stuff, but life in general.
 
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If your first sign estimate comes in too high give these guys a look:


I had two of these signs made, (one for me and one for Mike) when I stole another of Mikes sayings
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Best thing I did was change my mindset to no matter what happens, I can control my reaction to it. Can either be pissed off and mad or laugh at it, grab the tools, and move on. That was huge for me, not only with house and shop stuff, but life in general.

Been reading books like Let Them by Mel Robbins. It’s brought me to not care too much about what everyone else thinks of what I doing. Next one is the Subtle Art of not giving a F**k.

just grab my book, leave the phone downstairs and Bang out a chapter out on the patio each night if I can.
 

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Mike, I’m getting caught up here and had this realization about halfway through your recent Utah trip; it dawned on me how good of a photographer you are. Composure, image quality both look like you put care and effort into the results, which, like everything you do, are excellent.

Thanks for continuing to share!
 
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Mike, I’m getting caught up here and had this realization about halfway through your recent Utah trip; it dawned on me how good of a photographer you are. Composure, image quality both look like you put care and effort into the results, which, like everything you do, are excellent.

Thanks for continuing to share!

Thank you, but I don't consider myself a photographer. My son on the other hand is a great photographer and will take great pride in finding just the right picture to take. I try, but I don't think I have the eye that he does.

What really ***** though, is that most of the time the pictures just don't do the scenery justice. To the point that I almost hate to even try to capture some of mother nature's moments with a picture as it almost feels as though I'm downgrading it by trying.

I appreciate you taking the time to follow along and participate in my thread.
 
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To @Trapps point above, I didn't take nearly as many photographs during mine and the wife's trip last week up into Wyoming as the scenery was just so breathtaking that I felt like I was not doing it justice.

I also keep telling myself that I would like to improve upon my photography skills by getting an actual camera. My son has a nice Nikon digital camera and there are times I wish I would take the plunge and buy one to take with us. It's just that the cell phones these days do such a great job of taking pictures and they are so convenient that I take it for granted and don't want to fuss with anything bigger and bulkier.

I did take a few pictures last week, but nowhere near as many as I usually do.


Our campsite in Afton, WY for the week after arriving early Saturday afternoon.
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With our early arrival, we took off for a nearby canyon that we explored a couple of years ago and it did not disappoint. Shortly after leaving the pavement we were blessed with this beautiful little waterfall cascading down the mountainside.
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Then near the end of the trail we came across this small dam that was flowing heavily over the spillway.
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Just above the spillway. What a spectacular little lake high up in the mountains.
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We turned around there and began heading back down the canyon, but what a view.
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The next day we took off on one of our favorite trails in the area, the Grey's River. Unfortunately, this was on Sunday July 6th and the traffic was horrendous with everyone coming down the trail from the couple of campgrounds along the river. We generally try not to travel anywhere near holiday weekends at this point in our lives, but with both of our work schedules, sometimes we have no choice as we try to accommodate both schedules. We probably should have postponed this drive by one day and maybe it wouldn't have been so busy and dusty.

However, once we got above the outfitters and the road narrowed, the traffic became non-existent so we found a place to stop to enjoy our lunch. I drove a few hundred yards off the main trail and thought for sure we could possibly see some wildlife here as we enjoyed our lunch as it looked so inviting. I thought for sure we'd have something wander by us while eating, but nope. Nothing.
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Until we drove about a quarter mile down the trail and saw a moose just across the way in the willows. Now why couldn't he have been a quarter mile the other way while we ate our lunch??? :headscrat
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A couple miles more and the wife spotted this deer crossing the river. Didn't seem to be in any hurry, even posed for us when we stopped to admire.
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With absolutely no traffic at this point, the wildlife was coming out as well as there was no more dust so we flipped the top back and enjoyed the beautiful day.
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Then as we approached the area that we nearly got stuck last year due to the snow drifts, we saw a cow and calf moose watching us closely.
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Stay tuned for more pictures.
 
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Continuing on.

Here we are just past where we had to turn around last year due to the snow drifts and the views were worth the wait.
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Being a Sunday and the big metropolis of Afton pretty much rolls up the streets on Sunday, we decided to grill some pork chops for dinner at camp. Also because it was a bit later than usual getting back to the coach and the wife had to login to work for a bit that evening.
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While I was grilling, the wife opened a can of baked beans and steamed some cauliflower. Delicious dinner.
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The next day we took off and headed for Teton NP. Again, the pictures of the Tetons just don't do them justice.
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As were heading back to Highway 89 and just going past Moose Junction, we saw a large herd of elk grazing on the side of the road.
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That evening we opted to try a new place in town. It was meh, the wife enjoyed her pulled pork sandwich and the onion rings were quite good.
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Stay tuned for a few more...
 
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Continuing on.

The next day we opted to try a trail that we have not done before. It was a bit of a drive over to Big Piney, WY then out through some farm land and into a beautiful little canyon following a creek. We saw a sign about 15-miles in that stated a fire had ravaged the area about 10 years ago and the evidence was still there. I thought for sure we'd see some wildlife in this canyon along the creek, but nothing all day.
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At one point the creek had jumped the bank and was running down the trail. Kind of cool and not very deep.
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As we climbed in elevation we continued to see evidence of the fire from nearly a decade ago, but the summer flowers were in full bloom.
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We hit the summit and only then realized we were on the Lander Cutoff. This was a section of open range and the Lander Cutoff was a heavily traveled pass during the trek out west by both wagon trains as well as cattle herding. The only vehicles we passed all day long were a group of three overlanders traveling together in the opposite direction. We pass them right before the summit.
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The Jeep was performing flawlessly the entire trip, but as the road narrowed going over the pass it got a bit rougher. I detected a weird upshift as we were descending just down the backside of the pass but it happened so quickly I wasn't sure if I had shifted into third and the transmission just upshifted from second or what took place.

I downshifted to second for compression braking and about a quarter of a mile later it "hickupped" again and I noted it was in third gear. OK, the last time wasn't a fluke or my imagination. What is going on?

I didn't want to stress the wife so I just kept watching things and gauge wise, everything was running perfectly. I tried to hit a few bumps a little harder than usual thinking maybe I had a loose connection somewhere. Bingo, it did it again after hitting a series of bumps and upshifted again, this time I noted that the "check engine" light very briefly illuminated and extinguished almost instantly, but not setting a DTC. That's odd.

We were still about 30-miles from pavement so as long as it was running I didn't want to mess with it so we continued on. A few miles later it did it again but this time the wife noticed the hickup and questioned me. I was trying to decipher what the issue could be and thought it had to be something in the handshake between the Chrysler BCM and the GM ECM because the shifting characteristics are handled by the BCM and just sending the signal to the GM side. I thought maybe I had a connection problem at the CANbus connector at the module that creates the handshake between Chrysler and GM.

We stopped to take a restroom break and I threw the scanner on it and saw no codes nor soft codes in the history. Again, that's odd. I reached under the dash to wiggle some wires and connectors on the CANbus module thinking that had to be where it was and no change, smooth as glass. I then thought, "well, the power distribution board feeds both the fuel pump and the interior CANbus module so let me look there.

I popped the cover off the power distribution board and looked around, moving fuses and no change in idle quality. I then barely touched the power wife feeding the board and it fell off and the engine died. BINGO!!
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I think the wires must have broken at the connector and the heat shrink was barely holding it together but would loose contact when a series of bumps were hit.
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I removed the ring connector and dug through my assortment and found a replacement.
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Reconnected and we were on our way. The Jeep ran flawlessly the remainder of the day and back to camp once we hit pavement. I think the wife was getting anxious as I was making the repair because there was absolutely no one else on the trail after passing the group of overlanders.
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That night we got into town and went to get a burger from Red Barron Drive-In that is the old style of carhop joint. Their burgers are fantastic.
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Thanks for looking.
 
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The next morning we were heading home so we went and grabbed some breakfast before breaking camp.

The breakfast place we like has changed hands since last year, but the food was the same and just as delicious as usual.
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Upon arriving home early afternoon, I washed the coach and got it parked back in the RV bay and then with the next major upgrade coming to the shop and the wife's car nearly due for an oil change, I figured I would knock it out. Any guesses as to what the next change to the shop is?
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Here's a little hint.
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Thanks for looking.
 
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4 post lift?

Appears to be something that attaches to the floor...that has cable rollers...


Your half right Marc, or double would be more correct. ;)



That base plate is massive for a four poster. I’m going with a ~12klb two poster.

As always Mike I luv the trip pics and commentary. Keep’m coming 👍

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

Thanks Cam.
 
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Great trip report Mike! WY is just one of those places that's tough to beat for scenery. Just gorgeous.

Thanks Keith. Yeah, there is surely some great scenery in WY. The one day we tried to get up into Yellowstone NP but the traffic was horrific at the south entrance after leaving Teton NP. Just inside the south entrance the traffic came to a standstill and after waiting for about 10-minutes and barely moving, I flagged a ranger down to inquire the reason and he said there was a lot of construction just north of where we were. The wife and I opted to turn around and go back and enjoy Teton more and not sit in traffic as we'll be in Yellowstone in a couple months anyways for a couple of days. It's usually just a quick hop, skip and jump up from Teton so it's a no brainer, but not when we have to sit in one place waiting for construction.
 

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Thanks Keith. Yeah, there is surely some great scenery in WY. The one day we tried to get up into Yellowstone NP but the traffic was horrific at the south entrance after leaving Teton NP. Just inside the south entrance the traffic came to a standstill and after waiting for about 10-minutes and barely moving, I flagged a ranger down to inquire the reason and he said there was a lot of construction just north of where we were. The wife and I opted to turn around and go back and enjoy Teton more and not sit in traffic as we'll be in Yellowstone in a couple months anyways for a couple of days. It's usually just a quick hop, skip and jump up from Teton so it's a no brainer, but not when we have to sit in one place waiting for construction.
Yep, YNP is off limits for us, in the summer at least. I guess it's always magical to those that don't have access daily though....
 
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Yep, YNP is off limits for us, in the summer at least. I guess it's always magical to those that don't have access daily though....

We generally avoid YNP in summer as well, at least holidays due to the crowds. Teton NP is a little less crowded, but we generally take off on some out of the way areas so that helps. Yellowstone NP is still one of mine and the wife's favorite National Parks as we've spent a lot of time there. Especially when we were younger and couldn't afford to travel the longer distances, it was somewhere we hold dear to our hearts and enjoy going back time and time again. We much prefer it in the fall though.



I was hoping for a chassis dyno, because who doesn't need one of those in their shop?.

:)

Sorry to disappoint ya Thom. No room for a dyno.
 
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Great pics as always. Love that scenery!

Thank you.


Trip looked amazing Mike and nice work on the roadside troubleshooting and fix, impressive!

Is the new lift an addition or replacement?

Replacement lift Mike. I waffled on adding another, but after a lengthy discussion with my son I opted to sell my 10k Ammco lift.
 
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The wife and I took the whole week off and we returned from vacation on Thursday, so I thought I'd make the most of the day after my morning coffee. My son has offered to help, but I know he doesn't like being away from his family so I thought I would get as much done by myself as possible. I may have overdone it a bit. The wife was NOT happy with me Friday night.

I mowed the lawns Friday morning and then commenced the teardown of my Ammco 10k pound lift. I started on the lift about noon and was walking in the house by 6:00 so I was pleased with the progress for a one man job. The scissor lift I rented from my neighbor was a Godsend as the last two times we've installed this lift and one disassembly we did it from ladders. Seeing as what my son has gone through the first half of the year with his injury, I sure as hell didn't want to be the reason he was laid up again, and I wasn't going to pay $1600 to have it installed, which is what I was quoted. And while I thought it was a fair price, I just wasn't going to pay it for something I could do and probably do a better job. This also didn't make the wife happy so maybe it was better I was outside and not in the house. :unsure:


What a long *** day and by the time I went in the house Friday evening for a shower and dinner I was completely spent. Not to mention I felt it Saturday when I got up. This getting old thing is for the birds, but I guess it's better than the alternative. :bounce:


The last picture of our Ammco 10k pound 2-post lift in my shop. It's been a great lift and hasn't given me a single issue in the past 14+ years I've owned it. It spent 6+ years in the old shop and 8 years here in the new shop. When we sold the old house, the buyer wanted me to leave the lift. I told the wife I would like to step up to a 12k pound capacity if the opportunity ever arose, but when I threw out a very reasonable number to the buyer, he declined. I think he wanted me to just throw it in. I told him $3k and he freaked. I told him he couldn't buy one for that, let alone have it installed and the shop was move in ready. So we disassembled it and took it with us. No skin off my nose, other than a little sweat labor to remove it.
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I posted up a video and about a dozen pictures of it Friday night on FB Marketplace, even showing that I had all of the original paperwork, right down to the packing list.
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Arms removed.
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Size comparison between the arms on the 10k vs. the much beefier arms of the 12k pound lift.
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The innermost arm on the new lift is the same size as the outer tube of the old one.
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Making progress.
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Parts stacking up as they are being removed.
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At the point of needing to move the columns, I figured I would wait until my son could help me on Saturday morning. But then I am not a patient man, nor one to stand around and wait. I thought I could bear hug the columns and walk them off the anchors, but that almost ended in disaster, so I blocked one side up at a time, reached under with a cutoff disc and cut each stud off one by one. Then I was able to walk them off the small amount they were sticking up above the concrete and move them out of the way.
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After grinding down the studs and tapping them down a little bit, I mixed up some epoxy and filled the holes so the epoxy could cure overnight.
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I posted pictures and video Friday night and almost immediately had a guy message me asking about it. I answered a couple of his questions and he said, and I quote "have the cash and I can get it tomorrow" after making me an offer. I countered back knowing I would probably have to drop it a little and he agreed. Almost immediately he asked if I could delivery it? WTF? Are you shitting me? I responded saying no delivery nor help in transportation, this has already been broken down and just needs to be picked up. By this time I was getting other interested parties inquiring and I responded stating it was possibly sold. I responded to the guy stating if he couldn't pick it up Saturday I needed to know because I had other interested parties messaging me. He responded @ 7:36pm stating he would arrange transportation and that was the last I heard from him.

By Saturday morning I had multiple messages about it. One that jumped out at me stated he was in a nearby town and could pick it up right now and he has the cash in hand. So, I messaged the guy from the night before asking if he was going to come and get it or not? I saw that the message was delivered AND read, but no response. That was @ 8:30am Saturday. I sent him another message @ 9am asking if he was still planning on getting it and I would give him until 10am to respond before I go to the next person. Again, the message showed that it was delivered AND read, but no response. The messages continued and I engaged in messaging the one that was nearby letting him know that if the other guy flaked out he was up next.

At 10:01 am I messaged him to see if he wanted it and he said he'd hook up to his trailer and be to my place within the hour. I like people who say what they mean and do what they say. He arrived a little before 11am and after introductions and realizing he owned a small auto repair shop that I know of he backed into the shop and we laid the columns right onto his trailer.

They laid down about as easy as I remembered but I also know the new columns are of thicker material, almost 2' taller and the carriages were double the height, so I knew they were going to be heavy as hell. I looked at the guy who just bought my Ammco and asked him if he had a few minutes and I'd kick back a few bucks. He eagerly agreed so I maneuvered the columns roughly into position and the three of us dead lifted them right up. Yeah, they were heavy as hell alright and there is no way my son and I would have been able to lift them by ourselves. The columns were standing in less than 10-minutes and the guy was on his way with our old lift.
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Congrats on the new lift Mike.

Just curious though, has a situation arose where your old 10K lift wasn't up to the task?

Thanks Vincent. To be honest, the 10k pound capacity wasn't necessarily the concern. My Ammco lift had no issues with anything I've ever had to lift as far as capacity. What did worry me a bit, especially on the longer trucks, was the proportion of the weight. For example, mine and my son's Duramax's seemed to balance pretty well, however, I have a couple clients that have longbeds and duallies and I didn't feel like the front arms were being equally loaded and the rear arms were having to take more weight. As soon as I would get these trucks in the air, I stuck pole jacks under them for extra insurance. I still do that with most full-size trucks, but those longbed duallies really worried me as they were rear biased a bit more than I liked.

I've been looking for a while off and on but just never pulled the trigger. The 12k pound lifts I see in some of the larger shops around here all have the tall profile arms that accept the frame cradles and I need something that will lift anything from a full-size lifted truck to a small compact or mid-size sedan so I need the low profile arms. Plus, I really like the triple telescoping arms so vehicles can be loaded in either the symmetrical or asymmetrical configuration. That seems to be a tall order and many shops around here have multiple lifts, high profile arms for the trucks and low profile for the smaller cars up through mid-sized SUV's.
 
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totally understand, 2x 2post would be bit redundant, especially if you aren't doing maintenance full time.

Thanks Mike. As my son and I were discussing this a few weeks ago, I had a Jeep on the lift doing some work and he called to see if the lift was available to service his wife's SUV. There are those situations where a second lift would be a nice option. However, there is also the exact opposite scenario where I need floorspace such as when I get read to build my trailer or when I retire and decide I want to build another street rod or muscle car. I generally work on those longer term projects on jackstands and a second 2-post lift may be in the way more than not.

In the 14-years we've had one lift and even ran our business, we were able to work around having just one lift and have had to time our projects or repairs so I think we will just continue to do that. There are those few times when I have a vehicle on the lift and something unexpected arises that a second one would be convenient though. Just not sure if those few scenarios would warrant the space lost all of the time. :headscrat

Oh well, I guess with the old one being sold, it's too late to worry about it now. :bounce: But it was a heavy topic between me and my son for the past several weeks.
 

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Should be a nice upgrade Mike! I've looked at the install requirements for a few lifts here and there. I assume you've done your homework, but is there any concern with the thickness of your floor and underlying support for a 12K load?
 
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Should be a nice upgrade Mike! I've looked at the install requirements for a few lifts here and there. I assume you've done your homework, but is there any concern with the thickness of your floor and underlying support for a 12K load?

No worries at all Keith. If you look back at my shop build you can see where I had the lift placement planned before the floor was poured and went overkill on concrete from the beginning. Most 2-post lifts only require 4" thick 3k PSI concrete and my entire shop floor is 6" 4k PSI concrete, except where the lift placement is which is over 7" thick as I scooped a bit of gravel out just before they poured the floor. I also had the contractor add in some extra rebar around where the lift would be installed and therefore the only issue I had is with the footprint of this lift being approx. a foot wider, we hit rebar with one of the holes and had to drill through it before continuing.
 

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No worries at all Keith. If you look back at my shop build you can see where I had the lift placement planned before the floor was poured and went overkill on concrete from the beginning. Most 2-post lifts only require 4" thick 3k PSI concrete and my entire shop floor is 6" 4k PSI concrete, except where the lift placement is which is over 7" thick as I scooped a bit of gravel out just before they poured the floor. I also had the contractor add in some extra rebar around where the lift would be installed and therefore the only issue I had is with the footprint of this lift being approx. a foot wider, we hit rebar with one of the holes and had to drill through it before continuing.

Ah ha! Something I did even better than Mike! I had extra rebar added to my lift area also, but mine is 12" thick 4K PSI concrete in the area of the lift.

Overkill is underrated! :cool:
 

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I have those in long and short versions, but never use them these days.
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I only use brass tooling for removing or installing seals as all it takes is one small scratch / nick and the seals won’t seal. Especially at pressures in hydraulics. For installs the spoon shaped tips are my favorite along with a notched spoon end that help push the O-ring into an internal groove.

Most of what I’m working on is high end suspension dampers, but those are essentially the same as hydraulic cylinders just with some backing added to the pressure heads.

For installing a shaft into a seal I like to use a bullet tool on the shaft ends to protect the seal as square edges or threads damage them on insertion.

For internal seals that use those nylon backup rings / piston bands I like using a piston band sizer. Is essentially just a tube with chamfered edges you pass the seals through that compress it all to the correct size prior to installation. Makes installing them way quicker and easier.

I always like to use a healthy amount of slickolem on seals.



Part number for the brass PB Swiss pick set please?
 
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