J H Williams vintage hand tools

[wrenchguy]

Depending on condition there is a $100 REWARD FOR THIS WRENCH. It has to match the sizes listed for the NO.1. It has to show the "diamond w" or "oval" logo along with a stamped or embossed "1". thx.

 

[bonneyman]

What do you use for the pin holes on the face by the anvil? A baby face spanner?

That'd work. I use a pin spanner I have for bicycle bearings. Has pretty small tips.
Like this:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001B6LNRQ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

To get the pawl and spring out, remove the press fit pin selector with a vise grip. Then you can unscrew the bolt and get to the pawl parts. The pawl is held in by a floating pin, hard to get out if it's full of old grease. But if you soak it long enough, a strong magnet should ****** that retention pin out of there. Hope this helps!

 

[four.cycle]

1937 Jennison Hardware Co. catalog J.H. Williams ad pp 318

1937 Jennison Hardware Co. catalog J.H. Williams ad pp 319

1937 Jennison Hardware Co. catalog J.H. Williams ad pp 320

1937 Jennison Hardware Co. catalog J.H. Williams ad pp 321

1937 Jennison Hardware Co. catalog J.H. Williams ad pp 322

 

[mritchie77]

Definitely on the "newer" side of vintage but I figured this might be from the late 70's to mid-80's? Almost complete 3/8 metric set I picked up with weekend. The sockets are double stamped Williams and Vulcan, but the ratchet and short extension are only marked Williams.

Looks to be missing a 3" extension and either a universal joint or spark plug socket in the middle. I haven't been able to find any modern or vintage advertisement or catalog coverage that shows the MSB-13 set.

 

[genog]

Found a Superratchet that will clean up nicely
I have a nice set of sockets that needs this ratchet

 

[Provincial]

I saw a combination wrench at an estate sale today. Obviously a Craftsman =V=, but when I turned it over, it said it was a Williams! I've never seen one like that before.

 

[PSCo1867]

Definitely on the "newer" side of vintage but I figured this might be from the late 70's to mid-80's? Almost complete 3/8 metric set I picked up with weekend. The sockets are double stamped Williams and Vulcan, but the ratchet and short extension are only marked Williams.

Looks to be missing a 3" extension and either a universal joint or spark plug socket in the middle. I haven't been able to find any modern or vintage advertisement or catalog coverage that shows the MSB-13 set.

I recently stumbled onto a 1979 J.H. Williams catalog, and found your MSB-13 set. It looks like your guess for the missing middle item is correct (universal joint).

Now, to figure out how upload this catalog for all to see.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Now, to figure out how upload this catalog for all to see.

Tagging @Mark Stansbury of the Internet Archive International Tool Catalog Library. I would wait to see if they already have it first. There are a mess of Williams catalogs there. Mainly older, though, so maybe they do need it.

 

[Jacobs976]

Here's a few pieces I got in a recent lot. Williams S-10 handle, S-15 handle, and S-40 breaker.

 

[daddyopoppy]

I’ve picked these Williams at various estate sales over time the 1 7/8” was the latest acquisition.

 

[PSCo1867]

1979 J.H. Williams Catalog (TRW era)

TRW J. H. Williams : Catalog WS-79 : Tool Sets : J. H. Williams Division : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

60 p., illus., 27.8 cm, trade catalog

archive.org

Thanks to Mark Stansbury for graciously (and quickly) scanning/uploading this catalog and countless other publications to archive.org, and to four.cycle, Lugz, and others for sending me his way.

 

[misterbill]

With the recent release of the Williams Catalog WS-79 on ITCL I think I may have solved the question I asked back in post 534. The box is a TB-4A and was used to house a fairly complete 1/4" drive set.


Bill

 

[misterbill]

Diving down another rabbit hole... since I now know what goes into the Williams TB-4A box I went rummaging through my stash and (disappointingly) have 5 of the 60 pieces. I know that the wrenches would be of the underline style and the sockets would be the two band variety.




Looks kind of sparse!





Bill

 

[mritchie77]

I recently stumbled onto a 1979 J.H. Williams catalog, and found your MSB-13 set. It looks like your guess for the missing middle item is correct (universal joint).

Now, to figure out how upload this catalog for all to see.

Didn't get to thank you yet for following up with me on this one. Not many do! Actually saved me a bit as I was thinking the universal would be the older B-140 but it's actually a B-140A

 

[S-K Tool Fanatic!]

Here is the Williams stuff i’ve collected through the few years I’ve been collecting tools.
-Tommy

 

[Millerfish]

Got these Williams items in a lot recently. What era are they from?

 

[S-K Tool Fanatic!]

You don’t want that junk, you should send them to me for proper disposal.
-Tommy

 

[S-K Tool Fanatic!]

None in stock but I will keep my eye out, if you needed deep wells I might have been able to help.
-Tommy

 

[S-K Tool Fanatic!]

Found this big wrench while digging through stuff I forgot I had.
-Tommy

 

[3baygarage]

Got these Williams items in a lot recently. What era are they from?

I think anything diamond stamp is a little bit older than the others. May be era mixed pieces there but who knows about transitioning.
Since Williams stuff looks very similar for a long time, I'm just guessing that these could be a mix of 50's and later.

 

[leg17]

A popular size in machine shops. Fits heavy pattern 1/2" and 5/8" nuts.

 

[3baygarage]

Coincidence I was just replying to member Millerfish‘s post. The other day I ran across this tiny pin spanner in my things and took a few photos.

Made by Williams, and branded for Miller Tool & Mfg. Co. Auto Service Tools. Miller is well known as the tool supplier for Plymouth, Dodge, Chrysler.

Appears to be a stock 453 spanner



Cover of 1938 catalog at archive.org showing full logo.
Similar looking spanner for power steering service, 1956 catalog at archive.org.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Cool find, cool decal. Miller made one of the specialty tools on the wartime jeep, too. Neat outfit.

 

[JohnDeere]

My williams 3/8 WSB-20 metric “set”. I have given up on finding sockets to fill the holes. Found an old school snap-on 10mm for the set. I also have my sae williams sockets in here.

 

[d42jeep]

This came up on my eBay search for NAF tools. I was surprised to see the Chrome marking on the opposite side of the NAF numbers.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I was surprised to see the Chrome marking on the opposite side of the NAF numbers.

Why? If you mean because of steel restrictions, Don, note that the Navy ASO was using it as a prefix for their stock numbers well before WWII. They are not exclusively analogous to WWII. I would date that wrench to 1940 or 1941.

 

[MisterEd]

J.H. Williams NM-20A 1/4 Drive Sliding T-Handle and Six NM-series Sockets.
12-Point Sockets: NM-1214, 7/16; NM-1212, 3/8 and NM-1211, 11/32
Hexagon Sockets: NM-609, 9/32; NM-608, 1/4 and NM-606, 3/16

 

[misterbill]

I recently picked up this SB-30 15/16" draglink bit. The coating (not chrome, probably cadmium) dates it around WWII. Anybody ever see one of these bits (SB-30, SB-40) that DIDN'T have the knurled band?






Bill

 

[d42jeep]

I’ve never seen a Williams one period, and you know that I’ve looked! Nice find! Is it destined for your GMTK?
-Don

 

[misterbill]

I’ve never seen a Williams one period, and you know that I’ve looked! Nice find! Is it destined for your GMTK?
-Don

It's "patina-correct"

 

[Private Lugnutz]

around WWII

"patina-correct"

I see what you're doing here and I would do the same. "The knurled band may say 'prewar,' but the finish says 'early war'" is another way of putting it.

 

[misterbill]

Here's a tiny fella from the NAF Class 41 catalog. A Williams NAF 1108-7 1/4" drive 12 point 3/8" socket.




Bill

 

[d42jeep]

Nice find. Here is the entry in the NAF catalog for that socket.
-Don

 

[Old Radar]

Picked up today at an estate sale--Vulcan No. 302:

J.H. Williams Catalog June 1937:

 

[Fred Knox]

It took me awhile, but I finally filled out my Williams "Superjustable" wrench set, with only the 4" having the raised ring around the hanging hole. I finally picked up the 12" this weekend, along with the W-diamond K-2 roll of small DOE wrenches (7/32" x 13/64", 1/4" x 15/64", 5/16" x 1/4", 11/32" x 9/32", 3/8" x 5/16").

 

[S-K Tool Fanatic!]

Awesome stuff! Love the orange on that roll, never seen one like that before
-Tommy

 

[Private Lugnutz]

took me awhile, but I finally filled out my Williams "Superjustable" wrench set,

Congrats, Fred. Those are the kinds of goals and the kind of patient collecting I admire. If I had an older Williams in my cache of 4-inchers I would send it your way, but my smallest older Williams is a 6.

 

[d42jeep]

I wouldn’t mind trading your raised ring example for my flat one if you want all of yours to be the same. Purely by coincidence, I took pictures of all the little guys today.
-Don

 

[Fred Knox]

I wouldn’t mind trading your raised ring example for my flat one if you want all of yours to be the same. Purely by coincidence, I took pictures of all the little guys today.
-Don

That would be great Don. Thanks.

 

[outofbounds]

Found this otherwise Run-of the-Mill Williams 729 the other day. What I didn’t notice until closer inspection at home was the beautiful Pierce Arrow logo inscription on the shank. Tool kit wrench? Anyone seen this or different sizes similarly marked?