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Steve W.

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Mine have been raised to bumper height. If the car is not in far enough, the door won't close. Many years ago, my sister backed her car into her garage, but stopped short so she could unload groceries from the trunk. Hours later, reached into the garage and pushed the button. She looked again when the door reversed, only to find that the reversal was because it had hit the hood of her car. :willy_nil

Her husband raised the sensors to bumper height to prevent that happening again, I did the same to mine.

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Mine have been raised to bumper height. If the car is not in far enough, the door won't close. Many years ago, my sister backed her car into her garage, but stopped short so she could unload groceries from the trunk. Hours later, reached into the garage and pushed the button. She looked again when the door reversed, only to find that the reversal was because it had hit the hood of her car. :willy_nil

Her husband raised the sensors to bumper height to prevent that happening again, I did the same to mine.

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I've considered doing that several times but haven't taken the plunge yet. Was considering adding a second set but haven't delved in to the details on how/if it would work. LiftMaster 8500.

I asked LiftMaster about it quite some time ago. They said two sets wouldn't work but (paraphrasing) "Feel free to move them from the *required* location height to a height that will catch your bumper". Seriously? You're telling me to ignore your written instructions/requirements? Blew my mind.
 

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While I agree with the intent of the sensors (not crushing kids or pets), if you don't have either of them, use the sensors in a way that makes sense for YOUR application. :dunno:

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Interesting. Based on the 2023 change in code, it appears in #1 below that the box is too full which then means the splice a code violation. Thanks @LXCam

Also, on second glance, I think I’d need to look at what a feed thru is technically. That particular splice actually goes both to the inside of the house to the AC unit and the exits the box in a second place to go to the outlet by the condenser.
There is nothing new about the 40% area requirement. It's been that way for decades even if the language has changed a bit. It's also not a feed through because it begins in this box at the circuit breaker. It's a feed through only if it begins and ends outside the box.
 

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A replacement would absolutely qualify. Beyond that, if you aren't touching it, it's fine to leave alone, code-wise.
Our code guy told me that in-place panel replacement here does not count as "modifying branch circuits" which is what would trigger the need to bring the branch up to current code. Relocating the panel does.
 
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Our code guy told me that in-place panel replacement here does not count as "modifying branch circuits" which is what would trigger the need to bring the branch up to current code. Relocating the panel does.
Generally you can extend up to 6 feet without an issue as I recall. I added a sub-panel a few years ago adjacent to my main, but it was placed where the circuits came through so we actually shortened the cables a bit. New breakers were dual function, but we reused several conventional CBs as I reduced the number of branches out of the main and eliminated some twins.
 

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I'm going to jump in here because I received the same exact line item on a home I sold in 2020. Buyer's home inspector noted a "double tap" in the panel. I was like what? I searched and search through that panel for what he was talking about. In the end, it had to do with the same exact situation, there was a normal splice in the box to feed a single GFCI outlet just outside of the box. It was definitely not a double tap, but quite annoying indeed. I sent a response back to the realtor to notify the other realtor that they were wrong with pictures and evidence.
 
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