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Nice work, Bob. How shallow are those drawers? I ask because I have a little (very little) space under my work bench.
I have assorted small/flattish stuff I use only occasionally but would like drawers like yours down at floor level to use that wasted space.
 
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Hey Bob, nice work on those slimline drawers. You might also be interested in scrounging up some old Smith-Victor slide storage boxes. Here's a link to a post I did on here during ancient times.

Alan, first of all, thank you and second, the Garage Journal Hive Mind is priceless. I have quite a few leftover Schaller bins and a second layer in a sliding tray would be an excellent solution. I have a couple of scrap Personal Computer case panels I could cut up and make one that way but that would involved a whole lot of stuff like:
  • Move the Corvette outside so I can weld
  • Cut straight lines in sheet metal
  • Make a larger metal brake
  • Fix mistakes in attempt 1
  • Start over on attempt 2
Instead I looked around at my piles of scrap and dug up a piece of 1/4" oak faced plywood and a 3-foot piece of aluminum angle I must have purchased for a project that never got started.

The plywood scrap wasn't square so I squared it up with the 12" miter saw. I wanted to make the tray half the length of the drawer but this piece came up a little short. Set the piece of plywood in the drawer along with two pieces of angle to mark my cut. Cut two pieces of the remaining angle a little long and began notching the ends so I can bend the tab 90° and rivet them to the cross pieces. The square of plywood left over is standing up, waiting to go back in the scrap bin. Not sure about the piece of aluminum angle but a betting person would be wise to money down that it ends up in a jar of small aluminum extrusion leftovers.
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It was quitting time so I didn't get to notch the second side rail. Once notched I need to anneal the ends so the tab doesn't break off (I'll test the longer tab first. From there I have to space the tray up enough to clear the boxes in the bottom of the drawer. Then it's drilling and pop rivet time. I double-checked the clearance and it looks like I can use that scrap plywood piece as the spacer.
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Nice work, Bob. How shallow are those drawers? I ask because I have a little (very little) space under my work bench.
I have assorted small/flattish stuff I use only occasionally but would like drawers like yours down at floor level to use that wasted space.
Dan, the drawer with the squares and measuring devices is deeper, at 3-1/16" outside and 2-3/8" inside depth. The Schaller bin drawer is 2-3/16" outside and 1-3/4" inside depth. There's a nominal quarter-inch dado about a quarter inch from the bottom edge for the plywood panel in the bottom of the drawer.
Slowly I am learning to use clamps as extra hands. I do have two (hands), but often that's still not enough.
@Prospecter, I don't think I owned many clamps when I had two hands but I've since corrected that oversight. Two hands is nice, one is acceptable but I really feel for those with none.
Bob
Great job on the drawer. Very nice :beer: .
Thank you very much @gman007!
I haven't caught up with your thread, but as usual, love your solution with adding the second drawer.
Kirk, thanks to Garage Journal I'm trying to make it even better -- for free. OK, at some point I paid for the stuff but no new money was spent.
 

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Finally got all caught up.

Should we start a "post your Artificial Limb" thread? I could post mine as well. I couldn't use the Utah arm, insurance was going to pay for it but I had to much nerve damage and by the time the sensors got better years later I just didn't care.

Nice job on the drawer and scoring a Fire hd-10.
 

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Finally got all caught up.

Should we start a "post your Artificial Limb" thread? I could post mine as well. I couldn't use the Utah arm, insurance was going to pay for it but I had to much nerve damage and by the time the sensors got better years later I just didn't care.

That is not a bad idea! Tools or Free Parking?
 
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Happy 4th of July to you, your family, and all other friends here :beer: IMG_5672.jpeg
Thank you @gman007. Spent the afternoon at our son's house. In the morning Liane walked the manse as usual and had the urge to pull weeds from one of the gardens. The garden she picked has a low and sturdy steel rod fence around it. Not my choice but Liane got it for free. She tripped and fell, banging up her knee, putting a lump on her forehead and hurting her wrist. She bandaged herself up before we left for the party but by 4:00 in the afternoon her wrist was swollen and sore. Instead of going home, Liane wanted to go to an urgent care center (Doc in a Box or similar). Instead I took her to the hospital emergency room a mile from our house. None of the fireworks injuries had shown up so we were in a treatment room in five minutes. Three hours later she had her leg wound cleaned and re-dressed, an x-ray of her hand and wrist taken and sent home with a wrist brace and sling. It's a bruised and strained wrist but no breaks. Had a lot of laughs with the staff. Made it home, called our son to let him know we had a great time and got home safely with a side trip to the ER.
Happy Independence Day!
Thank you Lou, I hope yours was fun and safe.
Finally got all caught up.

Should we start a "post your Artificial Limb" thread? I could post mine as well. I couldn't use the Utah arm, insurance was going to pay for it but I had to much nerve damage and by the time the sensors got better years later I just didn't care.

Nice job on the drawer and scoring a Fire hd-10.
John, thanks for stopping by.

It's funny, I wore my artificial arm every day when we lived in Wappingers Falls (NY) but in Florida it's so hot and humid the socket starts to slosh by the two hour mark. But a thread isn't a bad idea. I'm hoping some people have adapted tools to theirs.

The Utah arm seemed like such a good idea but once it was fitted I realized they gave me beautiful electric tweezers when I really needed a hammer. It pissed me off that they wouldn't give me the software to program mine to go faster and squeeze harder.

I need to get back on the drawer and maybe start using the Fire tablets again.
That is not a bad idea! Tools or Free Parking?
@Squankum, isn't there already a WTF thread?
 

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Another fine job by Bob, this time taking care of his Liane.

It's sometimes, well, all the time, hard to know which to choose- emergency room or urgent care. I have to say I have had several good experiences at urgent care. Fast and efficient. I've always waited for hours no matter what at the hospital emergency room.

Here's to quick healing for Liane.
 
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I am sorry to hear about your wife’s injuries and wish her a speedy recovery. It is good to hear that she did not break anything. At least she got care right away which these days is a novelty!
@gman007, I was worried she broke something. Making to 80 without breaking something is a challenge.
Glad Liane didn't break anything. Sometimes the strains and pains can be worse though.
@Prospecter, me too. I told her this morning that she needed to be patient. A sprain can take longer to heal than a break.
Another fine job by Bob, this time taking care of his Liane.

It's sometimes, well, all the time, hard to know which to choose- emergency room or urgent care. I have to say I have had several good experiences at urgent care. Fast and efficient. I've always waited for hours no matter what at the hospital emergency room.

Here's to quick healing for Liane.
Alan, it would have been finer if I hadn't agreed to the garden edge fencing.

For me the emergency room is the logical choice. We've been using this hospital for 49 years (including the day we moved into our first Florida home). They have all our information so check-in is quick. It's also a mile from our house and the nearest urgent care is 4.5 miles away.
Hope Liane has a speedy recovery!
Thank you Marc!
Almost forgot! Thanks for introducing me to the Manse word. I'll try using it around my beer-drinking friends and see how it goes. I'm suspecting-blank stare, Huh?, what? or no comment at all, just to mention a few

Nice to learn something new.
Alan, it does result in some smirks. On the other hand, our nicknames in Australia were Uncle Bob and The Duchess of Boca.
Sorry to hear about Liane. :eek: Feel Better!

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Lou, thank you and she says she's feeling better but I know some of the things she bruised will show up in the coming days,
Bob,
Glad nothing was broken! You now need to cater to her every need, if you weren’t already!
Dennis, not only am I catering, I ran the washer and dryer today (supervised of course).
Bob, sorry to hear about Liane's accident. I have sent a request to Shorty to add Gardening Safety to the online curriculum at the North Florida Safety Skool.
Scott, I appreciate the condolences. Good idea to add that to the curriculum -- it did involve some blood.
That's no good about Liane's fall, Bob. Hope she recovers quickly.
Geoff, I suspect it has to do with a new drug she started taking. It works for its intended purpose but the side effect is dizziness. She's going to stop using it (not a life-threatening condition).
 
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Ear Nose & Throat doctor visit went well on Friday. Surgeon is happy with progress but did remove a few brain cells (I assume that was what the greenish blobs he removed were). He also cracked off a couple of chunks of bone in the same inspection. Thank goodness for the anesthetic in the nasal spray the nurse gave me. On the way home I stopped at Harbor Freight to get some air hose whips but none were on display. Not wanting to leave empty handed I grabbed a fresh blue tarp, a magnetic parts tray and a compact 1/4" air ratchet. The one I have works fine but it always seems to be too big for the place I want to use it. It was on clearance for $14.97 so I was forced to buy it.
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To stay close but not inside the house (sets Jasmine off when I walk around) I made up a project to keep myself occupied. The new air ratchet reminded me I need to put a few drops of oil in these tools when I use them. I freely admit I haven't always done that. I decided the oil bottle needed to be handy so searched for a piece of tubing to make a holder for the bottle. Turns out a 1.25" PVC coupler has the perfect ID for a 4-ounce plastic bottle. I drilled a couple of holes for screws on one side and a couple more larger ones on the opposite side to let a screwdriver through.
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Drilled and tapped holes in the compressor top shelf for 10-24 machine screws.
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Mounted the PVC fitting and dropped the tool oil bottle into it. I may still forget to oil the air tools but this gives me a fighting chance to remember when I shut the nearby ball valve.
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Very nice job on oil bottle holder. Hopefully since now the oil bottle is kind of right in your face, you will remember to oil the air tools. You also might want to put a reminder sticky note on the compressor switch or regulator knob.
 

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@Bob Heine - Sorry to hear about Liane and hope she's on the mend.

Likely a good call on the ER. I've read a number of horror stories about some of the "Doc In The Box" urgent cares. A number of them, particularly in Florida & Texas as I recall, are strictly retail, no insurance accepted. They charge exorbitant prices, well beyond a hospital ER. The stories I've read make it appear to be quite the racket.
 

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glad to hear Laine is on the mend! It ***** when others get hurt, we never really care if we hurt ourselves as much as someone in the house getting hurt.

Not a bad idea with the air compressor tool oil. One of my goals is to get air tool in one spot and I will put a similar holder near the tools to remind myself to oil the tool when I grab one.
 

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Very nice job on oil bottle holder. Hopefully since now the oil bottle is kind of right in your face, you will remember to oil the air tools. You also might want to put a reminder sticky note on the compressor switch or regulator knob.
@gman007, I have four label makers scattered around the place and I label a lot of stuff. Somehow I am able to ignore some of the ones that would help me remember.
@Bob Heine - Sorry to hear about Liane and hope she's on the mend.

Likely a good call on the ER. I've read a number of horror stories about some of the "Doc In The Box" urgent cares. A number of them, particularly in Florida & Texas as I recall, are strictly retail, no insurance accepted. They charge exorbitant prices, well beyond a hospital ER. The stories I've read make it appear to be quite the racket.
Thank you Roger.

I have used "Doc In The Box" urgent care centers twice. Once to take my brother-in-law to one because he just wanted a checkup. It wasn't a nightmare but boy did it take a long time. Second time was to get treatment for the hives that broke out all over my body. The paperwork took longer than the treatment (a cortisone shot). Everything I have given to the hospital had to be repeated and I had to pay up front.
Bob,
Sorry to hear about Lianne.
Glad she is on the mend, and I know you'll be a good servant for her.
Jon, I live to serve her (she has forbidden me to die first).
Good thing Liane has you looking at for her. Speed recovery. I’m sure the trip to HF lifted her spirits. 😁👍
Shorty, she's happy with my ability to change wound dressings. Pretty sure the HF visit only lifted mine. I can't work in the shop because I can't hear her "I've fallen and I can't...[fill in blank] if I'm that far away.

However, I did get the stubby ratchet storage spot done today. Found a short length of PVC the right size for the ratchet. Picked out the location where it could go with the other air wrenches. I put a mounting bracket on the 4" PVC to help hold the weight of the early model HF 1/2" Earthquake impact gun so the new piece of PVC had to have a relief cut in it. Couple of spring clamps hold it in place temporarily.
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My M12 Right Angle Hex ratchet was perfect for drilling a couple of holes in two adjacent PVC piper. A short 1/8" bit fit just fine.
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Then it was time to pop rivet the two adjacent PVC tubes together. For some reason, I saved my old Craftsman pop rivet tool when I bought the Stanley Professional. Turns out this job was the reason. I was able to get the smaller tool inside the 4-inch PVC pipe and squeeze.
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I seem to have a few too many pop rivets -- these are the aluminum ones. Two 1/8" x 5/8" should be enough to secure it in place. I pity the person who has to take this pile of PVC down.
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I quit after getting two pop rivets installed. This is a very lightweight air ratchet.
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All done and tools put away.
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glad to hear Laine is on the mend! It ***** when others get hurt, we never really care if we hurt ourselves as much as someone in the house getting hurt.

Not a bad idea with the air compressor tool oil. One of my goals is to get air tool in one spot and I will put a similar holder near the tools to remind myself to oil the tool when I grab one.
Cody, you're right. My boo-boos don't hurt me near as much as seeing others in pain and having no way to make them feel better.

I thought about putting the oil with the tools but I seem to have them scattered around the garage. The nailers are in the bottom drawer of the stainless chest but the sanders are on the 1-drawer paint prep roller. No matter which tool I use, I have to open the compressor's main valve to the piping system. When I glance at the pressure gauge, the oil bottle is right there.
Bob
Hope Laine mends quickly - I still have a couple gallons of Kink-Ease is she runs low..
Thank you Mark. I still have two unopened bottles on the shelf. It doesn't help with cuts but it really works great on the achy joints. I only need to use it every few days.
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Sorry for the typo “if” she runs low….
BTW - you’re about 10 posts away from 10,000! Are you giving away something to lucky number 10,000?
Mark, I'll be careful not to post that one myself. I must have some train or car memorabilia that would work.
I am not sure if I was the only one confused regarding the “Kink-Ease” :unsure: :oops: ;) Comment or not !

So I had to google it and lo and behold, it is a muscle pain relief product :)!

https://www.stagesoflifevitamins.com/products/kink-ease-enh-msm-salve-16-fl-oz-pump-jar
@gman007, I was skeptical when Mark first mentioned it but I tried a bottle and the joints in my hand slowly but surely got less painful and creaky. They still look misshapen but they feel better than they look.
 

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Thank you Mark. I still have two unopened bottles on the shelf. It doesn't help with cuts but it really works great on the achy joints. I only need to use it every few days.

An older woman in my neighborhood said she tried a cream involving some kind of cannabinoids, and had good results. I told her my job involved potential drug testing, so there's no way I'm riisking it.

Alas, no liniment was enough to save *****. :(

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Bob - do you have a PVC solution for a small herd of unrelated grease guns? I've always reserved one shelf in the "condiment" shelving unit for a drool tray for the guns, it contains the ooze from the them, but also dead flies, moths and other creatures plus dust. dead grass (don't mow next to the man door into the garage when it's open) and low flying objects off the workbench. Currently, while looking for inspiration, the tools are hanging in a 5 gallon bucket, which is gonna end up being a trip hazard for me.

Hope Liane is mending, I can relate to the dizziness issue. When I had a spell of vertigo a number of years ago, I told the doc I wasn't dizzy but just had that feeling of "almost" most of the time. He said "now you know what you'll feel like in twenty years", Twenty years is up and gone.
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An older woman in my neighborhood said she tried a cream involving some kind of cannabinoids, and had good results. I told her my job involved potential drug testing, so there's no way I'm riisking it.

Alas, no liniment was enough to save *****. :(

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@Squankum, my whip problem is worse than ever. I put a triple quick connect whip years ago when I was working on exhaust systems. It let me connect two different grit die grinders and a band file at the same time. Swapping tools isn't difficult but it involves holding the quick connect in my left armpit and pressing the male coupler into it. A bruised and calloused armpit isn't one of my long term goals. The original triple version hangs on the 50-foot hose reel in the garage. I often forget to take it to the workshop when polishing aluminum parts with the two air DAs and a pneumatic Dremel.
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The other day I made a second triple with a slightly different configuration that will reside in the workshop.
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I bought a jar of hemp extract (active ingredient Cannabidiol) topical cream for Liane and she tried it. It didn't do much for her so she gave it back to me. Didn't do much for me either. The first ingredient listed in Kink-Ease is water and the second is Methylsulfonylmethane. In addition, there's a long list of natural oils, extracts and vitamins. Methylsulfonylmethane, also known as MSM is available in powder form. I bought a one pound bottle of the powder and took 1/2 teaspoon dissolved in water daily for a long time. Between the MSM and the Kink-Ease my hand feels and works better. I remember my index finger hurting so bad I couldn't open pull-tab cans. I can't be sure it's the MSM and Kink-Ease but I'll take the win for whatever helped. I bought the MSM powder from Amazon in late 2021.
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A good man and musician with great sense of humor! RIP! :(
@Squankum and @gman007, it looks like another vacancy in my musical collection will be filled. Just listened to one and I'm hooked -- maybe because I'm 44 days older than him. Arlo Guthrie's album "Alice's Restaurant," which also includes "City of New Orleans" and "The Motorcycle Song" are in all three cars' iPods. *****'s "Bipolar Tour:..." CD will be added to the iPods.
Bob - do you have a PVC solution for a small herd of unrelated grease guns? I've always reserved one shelf in the "condiment" shelving unit for a drool tray for the guns, it contains the ooze from the them, but also dead flies, moths and other creatures plus dust. dead grass (don't mow next to the man door into the garage when it's open) and low flying objects off the workbench. Currently, while looking for inspiration, the tools are hanging in a 5 gallon bucket, which is gonna end up being a trip hazard for me.

Hope Liane is mending, I can relate to the dizziness issue. When I had a spell of vertigo a number of years ago, I told the doc I wasn't dizzy but just had that feeling of "almost" most of the time. He said "now you know what you'll feel like in twenty years", Twenty years is up and gone.
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Gerry, I do have a PVC solution but it's far from elegant. Only the Corvettes have grease fittings so my herd is only three.
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The guns do exude small amounts of grease so the little one has a PVC tube to catch it (no idea how I would empty it when it gets full) but I made a paper towel lined aluminum flashing tray so it doesn't leak into the cabinet below. The tray was an after-thought when the cabinet below showed signs of bleeding.
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The space on the cabinet on the other side of the window didn't go to waste. I store the Bernzomatic Propane and MAP gas torches there.
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Made them with a couple of pieces of 3" exhaust pipe and strap steel.
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And yes, that's a really old tank of MAP gas. The torch kit came with the torch and two tanks. I have used the MAP gas sparingly when I need a hotter flame and this is the second tank, which has been used twice on small jobs (with big pieces).
 

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Very impressive and organized setup but we would except no less from you. Great job :beer:!

If you don't leave your grease guns in a pile with their grease oozing everywhere, how do you know which gun has which grease in it?
It seems GeddyT has raised a very valid point :). So the bigger question is, can good organization lead to chaos and confusion?:)
 

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I'm surprised you bought an air tool. I've all but given up my air tools. I do use my air file once in a great while, but most everything else is Milwaukee battery.
 
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If you don't leave your grease guns in a pile with their grease oozing everywhere, how do you know which gun has which grease in it?
Tom, are you telling me grease guns can have different kinds of grease in them? I thought the 'other' kind of grease came in a can for wheel bearings.
Bob
Very impressive and organized setup but we would except no less from you. Great job :beer:!


It seems GeddyT has raised a very valid point :). So the bigger question is, can good organization lead to chaos and confusion?:)
@gman007, thanks for the very kind words but to your second point, it's another yin and yang thing. The more organized I get, the more disorganization happens. When one more detailing product arrives in the garage, it doesn't have a place in that cabinet and goes in a different place. The organizers fill up and suddenly there are jars and buckets filled with miscellaneous items. I believe the chaos and confusion in my mind is constantly pounding my organization into submission. Some of my clear plastic hardware drawers have labels, thanks to my daughter 40 years ago but the vast majority have to be pulled out to see what's in them. At this moment I remember I have things in those drawers but how much longer that will be true is an issue.
I'm surprised you bought an air tool. I've all but given up my air tools. I do use my air file once in a great while, but most everything else is Milwaukee battery.
Kirk, like you, my Milwaukee M12 and M18 tools are the go-to tools. A few months back I was tightening a bolt in an extremely tight spot. My smallest ratchet didn't work so I used a short combination wrench. I was extremely frustrated having to make a fractional turn, flip the wrench over and make another fractional turn for a long enough time to make me curse my lack of a tiny air ratchet. I didn't go shopping to find one but when I was in HF, it found me (CLEARANCE tag was loudly calling me).

The tank on the 60-gallon compressor is always pressurized. I simply close the 1/2" ball valve at the tank. Only time I disconnect power is to unplug it to connect a welder.
 
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