
Dennis, each one seems to get deeper but that may be getting more sentimental about all the people I've lost as well. Liane is really taking it hard and wants to get another young (not puppy young) dog when the time comes.Sorry about Jasmine Bob. The little furries sure get into our hearts don't they? I guess it's good in general that they don't outlive us, however it seems their time is always too short.
Also good to hear you're still with us after attempting bulb repairs with the power on![]()
No worries, that post boosted my spirits, knowing the steel termites are less ferocious down here in God's Waiting Room.Sorry Bob..cross posted by accident…
Rian, I was surprised when Buffalo chicken wings became a thing. Prior to that phenomenon, wings were dirt cheap in the grocery stores and most of them went to pet food factories. I expect some enterprising chef will start turning all the skin left over from the boneless and skinless chicken breasts into a phenomenal side (or main) dish. You and I will be at the front of the line.I will fight anyone to have all the roasted chicken skin and the parson/popes nose
All the bad stuff is real good.
Scott, is there a hoop vs. barrel thread?Since you're in a fighting mood, head on over to the wheels vs. rims thread.
Kirk, thank you for the kind thoughts.Sorry to hear about Jasmine.
@Blackbyrd, I hemmed and hawed when Costco was selling those stainless boxes. When I finally bit the bullet there was only one left at the local warehouse. They wouldn't give me a break on the price because it was scheduled to go back to the supplier. At around $600 it was still cheaper than Sears or Harbor Freight for painted boxes.I always liked those stainless steel tool boxes. I couldn't find any of them when it was time to upgrade.
I'm interested in those m12 sheers..... I've been fighting tendinitis in my right arm all year.
@gman007, thanks for the kind words. Retirement means my snail's pace appears to working stiffs as rabbit speed.For the whole of the last week, I have been wondering why is it so quiet on the Bob southern front (who cares about western front) where there is always thrilling action, suspense and even danger!
Well it turns out, I am no longer receiving update alerts! So this morning when I checked the thread it looks like the whole week there was a great shindig going on and I missed it all.
This morning while on the thread mil, I managed to catch-up!
Bob
As usual great job repurposing, fixing etc
Ps
In other news, I will have to let my wife know that
1- The whole last week, the stock market is gone into a meltdown! And today the futures are down as much as 5%, therefore we have to push our retirement date back another 5 years!
2- I am all current on Bob’s thread!
I am sure upon hearing the second news, she will be so mightily impressed and happy that she will forget about the first news![]()
Rian, when they were still cheap I used to buy a bunch of wings, cut them up, boil them in oil and bathe them in a butter/vinegar/Crystal Hot Sauce tub.@Bob Heine In 2018 my travel buddy Craig who has a small bit of OCD and I were visiting with @djones1a Dennis and others, plus traveling a fair chunk.
Craig, unintentionally kept a mental record of my chicken wing consumption.
Also, remember American wings have the drummy and mid section as they are supersized.
So 4 pieces per Chicken.
After 3 weeks the total he revealed was ……
Nothing to be proud of.
But clearly my menu choice was predictable.





They forgot a few product details: super high in cholesterol , heart attach in a bag !
AaahhhRian, when they were still cheap I used to buy a bunch of wings, cut them up, boil them in oil and bathe them in a butter/vinegar/Crystal Hot Sauce tub.
Another favorite, which is still cheap, is chicken feet. Well, not the way I made them but the way Dim Sum restaurants make them. The nearby restaurant that made them closed a few years ago so I'm only savoring the memories. Even cooking them out on the patio is a no-no, sorry, a Hell NO NO..

Cody, at $3.26 per ounce that's a pretty fancy treat. The other brands on Amazon are even more expensive! Looks like I'll be hoarding the skin from Jasmine's 59¢ a pound leg quarters.
I'll eat any of the organs from the turkey bag, but I just can't do the liver. Between the combination of the taste and the sandy texture I get when eating liver, I just can't get past them.Cody, at $3.26 per ounce that's a pretty fancy treat. The other brands on Amazon are even more expensive! Looks like I'll be hoarding the skin from Jasmine's 59¢ a pound leg quarters.
Funny you mention gizzards. Cooked a turkey yesterday (it's a summer tradition) and boiled the liver, gizzard and neck. Chopped up the organs and added them to half the gravy. There's a pint of chicken livers in the fridge, waiting for me to boil some eggs, cut up some onions and run it all through the food processor. Then I can curl up in a comfortable chair away from the pack and pig out.

Got a cure for your nasty turkey.I'll eat any of the organs from the turkey bag, but I just can't do the liver. Between the combination of the taste and the sandy texture I get when eating liver, I just can't get past them.
Of course, my city slicker wife and family won't eat those parts, so I'm usually cooking them by myself outside and I'll give the liver to the dog. Heck, I'm usually the dark meat eater when it comes to the turkey as the wife and her family don't eat that part either. If it wasn't for me, they would just buy turkey breasts instead of buying the whole turkey. So, because of that, I'm usually the one cooking the turkey also. It just seems the white meat is always overcooked and so it's dry to me.![]()
Roger, you're right, it works like a vise-grip but has no teeth. It's a Grip-On 91207 L-Type 7" Axial Grip J-Shaped Locking Pliers. It's great for holding objects like screws and bolts square to the table-mounted band saw and holding objects tight when using the grinder or buffer. It was $27.30 when I bought it five years ago but it's quite a bit more now.@Bob Heine - What is that orange clamping tool - looks like a vise-grip.
I'll throw out the suggestion of an older dog. They need good homes too.

@gman007, thank you for the concern but we lucked out again. A few showers and breezes and one tornado watch. I feel terrible about the flooding and destruction further north.Hello Bob
I hope that you’re not affected by Debby !
Stay safe!
Cody, I grew up eating a lot of organ meat prepared by my grandmother. I didn't know it was because it was cheap (or free) and grandma had a way of making everything taste delicious. There was an occasional blood vessel in the liver that was hard to get down but it never occurred to me to turn down a meal.I'll eat any of the organs from the turkey bag, but I just can't do the liver. Between the combination of the taste and the sandy texture I get when eating liver, I just can't get past them.
Of course, my city slicker wife and family won't eat those parts, so I'm usually cooking them by myself outside and I'll give the liver to the dog. Heck, I'm usually the dark meat eater when it comes to the turkey as the wife and her family don't eat that part either. If it wasn't for me, they would just buy turkey breasts instead of buying the whole turkey. So, because of that, I'm usually the one cooking the turkey also. It just seems the white meat is always overcooked and so it's dry to me.![]()
@pima67, I did a turkey on the [gas] barbecue spit and it did come out great. I seem to remember it took quite a bit longer because I couldn't tell it was fully cooked. I now have an instant read probe thermometer so there might be another attempt in my future.We used to do our summer turkey on a rotating spit over a charcoal fire. Self-basting, crispy skin all around.
Kay, I recall you (or someone else) mentioning that technique. I also remember my grandmother doing the bacon mat at the start of the process. I hung around the kitchen until the bacon was done so I didn't miss out on the crunchy goodness.Got a cure for your nasty turkey.
It's upside down turkey.
Prep the turkey as you normally do.
Put it on the rack breast down.
Weave a bacon mat and lay it over the back of turkey.
Cook it for the first hour n a half.
Pull the turkey.
Put the bacon aside for treats.
Flip the turkey to be breast side up.
Finish cooking it.
The breast meat winds up moist and tender. The dark meat gets actually cooked and stays moist. And, you get lots of nice browned skin.

Bob we are going to have start calling you Mr, Organization. I only wish I was halfway to the point you have acheivEd.Hanging the short stepladder on the side of the stainless tool chest fixed one problem but created five.
I started with the easy stuff, putting the respirator on the HF 1-drawer frankencart. Hung the hoses in two locations, one of which I have already forgotten.
- Breathe-Cool Respirator storage
- Hoses for Breathe-Cool Respirator storage
- Porter Cable 7424XP Variable-Speed Random Orbit Polisher storage
- Flex-L3403 Lightweight Polisher storage
- Wisetool Variable Speed Dual Action 3" Orbital Polisher storage
I has already fabricated a simple hanger for my HF 7" buffer/sander.
I procured a couple of pieces of aluminum bar stock from Home Depot, hoping to make similar hangers for the polishers, starting with the Porter Cable. Measured thrice, scribed cuts and bends and cut the stock to length. Used Magic Marker on the bend lines. Clamped the piece in the vise so I could anneal the bend areas.
I actually remembered not to grab the scorching hot aluminum with my fingers. That clamping tool Mike (@zmotorsports) introduced me to a few years ago was perfect for this job.
I used a step drill to drilled a hole and cut one side back to the edge.
I haven't decided where I'll mount the buffer but it's a perfect fit that shouldn't fall off because of a light bump.
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@Jgaz, I never used one but I did look into getting one years ago. They were way outside my comfort zone. A cautionary note about my link. The description led me to believe the tool came with metric nutsert anvils. It comes with three SAE anvils, 1/4-20, 5/16-18 and 3/8-16 sizes. It does come with a plastic case with 50 nutserts in each size.Sir,
Details (or link) on the riv nut tool.
I used many when I was still working but considered all of them way too expensive for occasional use at home.
Emil, I am better than I was when young but I have a terrible problem saving paperwork. I have manuals from tools that left the building years ago. I have tax records going back 30+ years. There's a metal box with most of my paycheck stubs and another shoebox with cancelled checks from the 1960s. I may also have a problem with used hardware -- lately I've been throwing out rusty screws but there are way too many containers with metal trash in them.Bob we are going to have start calling you Mr, Organization. I only wish I was halfway to the point you have acheivEd.
Glad to hear that Debby left you relatively untouched.
Rian, I have rarely used that manual Rivnut tool but clearly remember how frustrating it was to use.Rarely used, priceless tool the Rivnut tool and attachments.
Alan, you know that's not even close. My piece of wood is from 1966:
Logan, it's one of those tools that's great to have when you need it rather than needing it and not having it.Sweet, something I want but don't need immediately... It can go on the Christmas list for family! Thanks Bob!
Roger, you're right, it works like a vise-grip but has no teeth. It's a Grip-On 91207 L-Type 7" Axial Grip J-Shaped Locking Pliers. It's great for holding objects like screws and bolts square to the table-mounted band saw and holding objects tight when using the grinder or buffer. It was $27.30 when I bought it five years ago but it's quite a bit more now.
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@SquankumDang, GJ is dangerous territory for a pliers addict. In your fabrication pic, were you holding the work steady so the vise press would do its job without moving the stock? And it's extra handy for the one-handyman, isn't it? You can't have enough clamps or pliers.
Amazon listing shows the other varieties, many looking super handy for welders.
@Squankum
GJ, is dangerous place for any tool addict of any kind! I joined GJ, because I had just bought my first old US made vise (and had some questions regarding restoration) and I was not even an addict to start with!
After subscribing to the vise thread, in what seemed to be a blink of an eye, I had more than two dozen vises and kept looking and buying more.
Even SWMBO who normally does not comment on my tool fetish, took notice and commented that this was getting “too overwhelming”!
I said, honey many men have vices such as addiction, gambling, drinking and some other vices that I can not mention here, etc, I have a vice for vises. Would you prefer the former or the latter.
She said latter is fine but needs to stop here. Now needless to say, what she does not know will not hurt herhowever it does hurt my back though, hauling 100s of pounds of old American iron and hiding them in the basement and garage.
More recently, I have solid a few after restoring them, some for more that 10 times what I paid for and that did impressed her.
Andrew, I've used the manual rivnut tool but only for the small ones. As much grip strength as those required, I know I won't be able to set a 1/4-20 one with the manual tool.I have a manual rivnut tool and it is a little awkward at times, but it does the job and most important I already OWN it.
Tom, that's not even a first world problem. That's another planet problem.I had to stop working out because I would always strip rivnuts with my manual tool because I'm way, way, way too strong and not at all for reasons of technique. Maybe that pneumatic one would apply just the right amount of force that I can toss the manual one out and get back into Mr. Universe shape!
@Squankum, that particular tool has smooth jaws so it doesn't mark the aluminum. The little brake was doing all the work and the pliers were along for the ride. The bright orange color also reminded me not to grab the aluminum because it was still hot from the torch.Dang, GJ is dangerous territory for a pliers addict. In your fabrication pic, were you holding the work steady so the vise press would do its job without moving the stock? And it's extra handy for the one-handyman, isn't it? You can't have enough clamps or pliers.
Amazon listing shows the other varieties, many looking super handy for welders.
@gman007, I quit smoking a half dozen times and it has been 15 years since the last quitting. I quit drinking 21 years ago when my Scotch and Vodka intake reached 3 liters a week. If I quit buying tools I'd quit living so Liane puts up with this addiction.@Squankum
GJ, is dangerous place for any tool addict of any kind! I joined GJ, because I had just bought my first old US made vise (and had some questions regarding restoration) and I was not even an addict to start with!
After subscribing to the vise thread, in what seemed to be a blink of an eye, I had more than two dozen vises and kept looking and buying more.
Even SWMBO who normally does not comment on my tool fetish, took notice and commented that this was getting “too overwhelming”!
I said, honey many men have vices such as addiction, gambling, drinking and some other vices that I can not mention here, etc, I have a vice for vises. Would you prefer the former or the latter.
She said latter is fine but needs to stop here. Now needless to say, what she does not know will not hurt herhowever it does hurt my back though, hauling 100s of pounds of old American iron and hiding them in the basement and garage.
More recently, I have sold a few after restoring them, some for more that 10 times what I paid for and that did impress her.
...I don't think I've sold anything for what I paid for it, let alone 10 time what I paid for it. OK, I have made some stock purchases that have increased more than 10 times what I paid for them but I've also made stock purchases that went the other way.
For gosh sakes don'tShe said latter is fine but needs to stop here. Now needless to say, what she does not know will not hurt herhowever it does hurt my back though, hauling 100s of pounds of old American iron and hiding them in the basement and garage.
Other than diecast cars (we don't talk about that vice) my largest collection seems to meters. Voltmeters, DVMs, VTVMs, Clamp Ammeters, just bought a cute little digital O'scope. It's a sickness! (Robin Williams owned almost 100 bicycles. Called himself "bikesexual." This was after his cocaine years.
My favorites right now are a MagSwitch featherboard for the tablesaw and a Noga articulating arm dial indicator base. Both from somebody's mention..I am easily tricked into buying all kinds of clamps and pliers. Actually I'm easily tricked into buying all kinds of stuff, especially tools.
Bob - buy high, sell low seems to be my fortune. I retired in '07, cashed out my vacation and sick leave into a state recommend investment account, but had to roll it into a Roth when I actually left. I moved the money Mid-October of '07. Bad timing $32K to $19K in very short order (thank you sub-prime lenders for the crash!).I don't think I've sold anything for what I paid for it, let alone 10 time what I paid for it. OK, I have made some stock purchases that have increased more than 10 times what I paid for them but I've also made stock purchases that went the other way.
BobMy seven vises are only valuable to me. I fear restoring any of them to new condition would make me afraid to use them so the dings and chips remain.
I don't think I've sold anything for what I paid for it, let alone 10 time what I paid for it. OK, I have made some stock purchases that have increased more than 10 times what I paid for them but I've also made stock purchases that went the other way.
) and show good faithTom, I try to temper my disappointment knowing it can always be worse. We bought our first house in 1966 (3BR, 1BA 1-car garage). The house was built in 1952. The house was listed for $16,900, dropped to $15,900 and sold to us for $14,500. Turns out the house cost $14,500 when it was new. We sold that place in 1975 for $32,500 and thought we won the lottery. It sold again in 1987 for $118.500 and is estimated to be worth $552,000 today. Did I mention I ordered a brand new Vega GT in 1971 and paid MSRP ($2,700)?Hear! hear! This statement made me stop and take stock of my entire life with the goal of recalling a single incident in which I sold something for more than or as much as I paid. Seems everyone else I know has some kind of a story of buying a truck and then COVID hits and then the dealer calls and asks to buy it back for 30% more than paid, but that never happens to me. (I'm the guy who buys the truck at the 30% mark-up and then finds out it's full of rats.) Or they bought a video game console in 1992 and just sold it for $1000. Or they bought tickets to a game, couldn't go, and sold the tickets for twice what they paid. The list goes on.
I just accept that everything I spend money on is a sinkhole, and then I don't have to worry about it. Vehicles, tools, etc. get used hard because I'm not trying to preserve them for antiquity. I guess I've taken that same approach with my body, and this approach hasn't been working out too well of late...
Gerry, in my youth I owned 200+ plastic model cars that I customized. I always threw out the box as soon as I was done so the collection was and would be worth today about Zilch, give or take a plastic garbage bag.For gosh sakes don'thidestore them in the attic!
Other than diecast cars (we don't talk about that vice) my largest collection seems to meters. Voltmeters, DVMs, VTVMs, Clamp Ammeters, just bought a cute little digital O'scope. It's a sickness! (Metersex..ah, never mind)
My favorites right now are a MagSwitch featherboard for the tablesaw and a Noga articulating arm dial indicator base. Both from somebody's mention..
Bob - buy high, sell low seems to be my fortune. I retired in '07, cashed out my vacation and sick leave into a state recommend investment account, but had to roll it into a Roth when I actually left. I moved the money Mid-October of '07. Bad timing $32K to $19K in very short order (thank you sub-prime lenders for the crash!).


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The pneumatic tool has some quirks. The instructions specify a minimum 100psi for it to work properly. I had been thinking of hooking it up to my CPAP machine since that doesn't get used much in the daytime but 11psi won't cut it.
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Funny, same thing is happening to me as I read this.I have seen the MagSwitch site and am attending meetings because of it. Before I could even think about it, a MagSwitch BoomerAngle was in my basket and on its way to my front porch. It's one of my extra hand tools for holding steel at the proper angle when welding. In my defense it was $44.97 + 17.86 (shipping) = $62.83.
I actually remembered not to grab the scorching hot aluminum with my fingers. That clamping tool Mike (@zmotorsports) introduced me to a few years ago was perfect for this job.
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I've got a whole list of cool tools that Bob should know about.. I gotta work out the deal with Amazon firstBob, you're an enabler, time and time again..