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I always liked those stainless steel tool boxes. I couldn't find any of them when it was time to upgrade.

I'm interested in those m12 sheers..... I've been fighting tendinitis in my right arm all year.
 
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For the whole of the last week, I have been wondering why is it so quiet on the Bob southern front (who cares about western front) where there is always thrilling action, suspense and even danger :)!


Well it turns out, I am no longer receiving update alerts! So this morning when I checked the thread it looks like the whole week there was a great shindig going on and I missed it all :).

This morning while on the thread mil, I managed to catch-up!

Bob
As usual great job repurposing, fixing etc :beer:

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In other news, I will have to let my wife know that
1- The whole last week, the stock market is gone into a meltdown! And today the futures are down as much as 5%, therefore we have to push our retirement date back another 5 years!
2- I am all current on Bob’s thread!

I am sure upon hearing the second news, she will be so mightily impressed and happy that she will forget about the first news :)
 

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Sorry about Jasmine Bob. The little furries sure get into our hearts don't they? I guess it's good in general that they don't outlive us, however it seems their time is always too short.

Also good to hear you're still with us after attempting bulb repairs with the power on :)
Dennis, each one seems to get deeper but that may be getting more sentimental about all the people I've lost as well. Liane is really taking it hard and wants to get another young (not puppy young) dog when the time comes.

I continue to have more than my share of lucky days.
Sorry Bob..cross posted by accident…
No worries, that post boosted my spirits, knowing the steel termites are less ferocious down here in God's Waiting Room.
I will fight anyone to have all the roasted chicken skin and the parson/popes nose

All the bad stuff is real good.
Rian, I was surprised when Buffalo chicken wings became a thing. Prior to that phenomenon, wings were dirt cheap in the grocery stores and most of them went to pet food factories. I expect some enterprising chef will start turning all the skin left over from the boneless and skinless chicken breasts into a phenomenal side (or main) dish. You and I will be at the front of the line.
Since you're in a fighting mood, head on over to the wheels vs. rims thread.
Scott, is there a hoop vs. barrel thread?
Sorry to hear about Jasmine.
Kirk, thank you for the kind thoughts.
I always liked those stainless steel tool boxes. I couldn't find any of them when it was time to upgrade.

I'm interested in those m12 sheers..... I've been fighting tendinitis in my right arm all year.
@Blackbyrd, I hemmed and hawed when Costco was selling those stainless boxes. When I finally bit the bullet there was only one left at the local warehouse. They wouldn't give me a break on the price because it was scheduled to go back to the supplier. At around $600 it was still cheaper than Sears or Harbor Freight for painted boxes.

Those M12 pruning shears are worth every penny. Aside from all the palm fronds and inch-plus thick branches, I can cut Jasmine's (phony) rawhide treats with a flick of a finger.
For the whole of the last week, I have been wondering why is it so quiet on the Bob southern front (who cares about western front) where there is always thrilling action, suspense and even danger :)!


Well it turns out, I am no longer receiving update alerts! So this morning when I checked the thread it looks like the whole week there was a great shindig going on and I missed it all :).

This morning while on the thread mil, I managed to catch-up!

Bob
As usual great job repurposing, fixing etc :beer:

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In other news, I will have to let my wife know that
1- The whole last week, the stock market is gone into a meltdown! And today the futures are down as much as 5%, therefore we have to push our retirement date back another 5 years!
2- I am all current on Bob’s thread!

I am sure upon hearing the second news, she will be so mightily impressed and happy that she will forget about the first news :)
@gman007, thanks for the kind words. Retirement means my snail's pace appears to working stiffs as rabbit speed.

Your other news items are what make my day.
1- A large part of our portfolio has been plowing money back into the investments. When the market tanks, my little money machine takes advantage of the lower prices. The Costco stock we picked up for $48 a share twenty years ago has tumbled to ~$800 today. Maybe Walmart will be hiring scary-looking 80-year-old greeters for Halloween. I won't even need a costume.
2- You are no longer current.

I have yet to receive a rational response from Liane when it comes to investments. Somehow sell low and buy high makes sense to her. To be honest, she does tell me to sell when an investment goes up but suggests the proceeds be re-invested in stuffing under the mattress.
 

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@Bob Heine In 2018 my travel buddy Craig who has a small bit of OCD and I were visiting with @djones1a Dennis and others, plus traveling a fair chunk.

Craig, unintentionally kept a mental record of my chicken wing consumption.
Also, remember American wings have the drummy and mid section as they are supersized.

So 4 pieces per Chicken.

After 3 weeks the total he revealed was ……



Nothing to be proud of.

But clearly my menu choice was predictable.
 

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@Bob Heine In 2018 my travel buddy Craig who has a small bit of OCD and I were visiting with @djones1a Dennis and others, plus traveling a fair chunk.

Craig, unintentionally kept a mental record of my chicken wing consumption.
Also, remember American wings have the drummy and mid section as they are supersized.

So 4 pieces per Chicken.

After 3 weeks the total he revealed was ……



Nothing to be proud of.

But clearly my menu choice was predictable.
Rian, when they were still cheap I used to buy a bunch of wings, cut them up, boil them in oil and bathe them in a butter/vinegar/Crystal Hot Sauce tub.

Another favorite, which is still cheap, is chicken feet. Well, not the way I made them but the way Dim Sum restaurants make them. The nearby restaurant that made them closed a few years ago so I'm only savoring the memories. Even cooking them out on the patio is a no-no, sorry, a Hell NO NO..
 
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Hanging the short stepladder on the side of the stainless tool chest fixed one problem but created five.
  1. Breathe-Cool Respirator storage
  2. Hoses for Breathe-Cool Respirator storage
  3. Porter Cable 7424XP Variable-Speed Random Orbit Polisher storage
  4. Flex-L3403 Lightweight Polisher storage
  5. Wisetool Variable Speed Dual Action 3" Orbital Polisher storage
I started with the easy stuff, putting the respirator on the HF 1-drawer frankencart. Hung the hoses in two locations, one of which I have already forgotten.

I has already fabricated a simple hanger for my HF 7" buffer/sander.
Buffer Storage on Wood Cabinet 2.jpg
I procured a couple of pieces of aluminum bar stock from Home Depot, hoping to make similar hangers for the polishers, starting with the Porter Cable. Measured thrice, scribed cuts and bends and cut the stock to length. Used Magic Marker on the bend lines. Clamped the piece in the vise so I could anneal the bend areas.
Porter Cable Polisher Mount 1.jpg
I actually remembered not to grab the scorching hot aluminum with my fingers. That clamping tool Mike (@zmotorsports) introduced me to a few years ago was perfect for this job.
Porter Cable Polisher Mount 3.jpg
I used a step drill to drilled a hole and cut one side back to the edge.
Porter Cable Polisher Mount 4.jpg
I haven't decided where I'll mount the buffer but it's a perfect fit that shouldn't fall off because of a light bump.
Porter Cable Polisher Mount 5.jpg
 

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I take it yall didn’t know about chicken skin chips.


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Yea it’s a thing, I’ve not tried it but I sure do want to try it!

I’m glad chicken gizzards are still cheap, it’s a treat I like to enjoy twice a year. I have to cook it outside due to my wife not enjoying the smell of the gizzards.
They forgot a few product details: super high in cholesterol , heart attach in a bag ! :) :eek:

My wife is a registered dietician, if I eat those chicken skin chips, she will skin me alive:)!
 
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Rian, when they were still cheap I used to buy a bunch of wings, cut them up, boil them in oil and bathe them in a butter/vinegar/Crystal Hot Sauce tub.

Another favorite, which is still cheap, is chicken feet. Well, not the way I made them but the way Dim Sum restaurants make them. The nearby restaurant that made them closed a few years ago so I'm only savoring the memories. Even cooking them out on the patio is a no-no, sorry, a Hell NO NO..
Aaahhh

Growing up with farm stock parents meant chicken feet were eaten, along with the rest.

I can still buy them where I buy my T-Bone steak.
 
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I take it yall didn’t know about chicken skin chips.


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Yea it’s a thing, I’ve not tried it but I sure do want to try it!

I’m glad chicken gizzards are still cheap, it’s a treat I like to enjoy twice a year. I have to cook it outside due to my wife not enjoying the smell of the gizzards.
Cody, at $3.26 per ounce that's a pretty fancy treat. The other brands on Amazon are even more expensive! Looks like I'll be hoarding the skin from Jasmine's 59¢ a pound leg quarters.

Funny you mention gizzards. Cooked a turkey yesterday (it's a summer tradition) and boiled the liver, gizzard and neck. Chopped up the organs and added them to half the gravy. There's a pint of chicken livers in the fridge, waiting for me to boil some eggs, cut up some onions and run it all through the food processor. Then I can curl up in a comfortable chair away from the pack and pig out.
 

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Cody, at $3.26 per ounce that's a pretty fancy treat. The other brands on Amazon are even more expensive! Looks like I'll be hoarding the skin from Jasmine's 59¢ a pound leg quarters.

Funny you mention gizzards. Cooked a turkey yesterday (it's a summer tradition) and boiled the liver, gizzard and neck. Chopped up the organs and added them to half the gravy. There's a pint of chicken livers in the fridge, waiting for me to boil some eggs, cut up some onions and run it all through the food processor. Then I can curl up in a comfortable chair away from the pack and pig out.
I'll eat any of the organs from the turkey bag, but I just can't do the liver. Between the combination of the taste and the sandy texture I get when eating liver, I just can't get past them.

Of course, my city slicker wife and family won't eat those parts, so I'm usually cooking them by myself outside and I'll give the liver to the dog. Heck, I'm usually the dark meat eater when it comes to the turkey as the wife and her family don't eat that part either. If it wasn't for me, they would just buy turkey breasts instead of buying the whole turkey. So, because of that, I'm usually the one cooking the turkey also. It just seems the white meat is always overcooked and so it's dry to me. :dunno:
 

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I'll eat any of the organs from the turkey bag, but I just can't do the liver. Between the combination of the taste and the sandy texture I get when eating liver, I just can't get past them.

Of course, my city slicker wife and family won't eat those parts, so I'm usually cooking them by myself outside and I'll give the liver to the dog. Heck, I'm usually the dark meat eater when it comes to the turkey as the wife and her family don't eat that part either. If it wasn't for me, they would just buy turkey breasts instead of buying the whole turkey. So, because of that, I'm usually the one cooking the turkey also. It just seems the white meat is always overcooked and so it's dry to me. :dunno:
Got a cure for your nasty turkey.
It's upside down turkey.

Prep the turkey as you normally do.
Put it on the rack breast down.
Weave a bacon mat and lay it over the back of turkey.
Cook it for the first hour n a half.
Pull the turkey.
Put the bacon aside for treats.
Flip the turkey to be breast side up.
Finish cooking it.
The breast meat winds up moist and tender. The dark meat gets actually cooked and stays moist. And, you get lots of nice browned skin.
 
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@Bob Heine - What is that orange clamping tool - looks like a vise-grip.

I'll throw out the suggestion of an older dog. They need good homes too.
Roger, you're right, it works like a vise-grip but has no teeth. It's a Grip-On 91207 L-Type 7" Axial Grip J-Shaped Locking Pliers. It's great for holding objects like screws and bolts square to the table-mounted band saw and holding objects tight when using the grinder or buffer. It was $27.30 when I bought it five years ago but it's quite a bit more now.
Grip-on 912 L-Type Axial.jpg
Grip-On sells different jaw configurations, some of which are shown on Jeff's River of Stuff.
Hello Bob

I hope that you’re not affected by Debby !

Stay safe!
@gman007, thank you for the concern but we lucked out again. A few showers and breezes and one tornado watch. I feel terrible about the flooding and destruction further north.
I'll eat any of the organs from the turkey bag, but I just can't do the liver. Between the combination of the taste and the sandy texture I get when eating liver, I just can't get past them.

Of course, my city slicker wife and family won't eat those parts, so I'm usually cooking them by myself outside and I'll give the liver to the dog. Heck, I'm usually the dark meat eater when it comes to the turkey as the wife and her family don't eat that part either. If it wasn't for me, they would just buy turkey breasts instead of buying the whole turkey. So, because of that, I'm usually the one cooking the turkey also. It just seems the white meat is always overcooked and so it's dry to me. :dunno:
Cody, I grew up eating a lot of organ meat prepared by my grandmother. I didn't know it was because it was cheap (or free) and grandma had a way of making everything taste delicious. There was an occasional blood vessel in the liver that was hard to get down but it never occurred to me to turn down a meal.

I too am a dark poultry meat fan. To me it has more flavor.
We used to do our summer turkey on a rotating spit over a charcoal fire. Self-basting, crispy skin all around.
@pima67, I did a turkey on the [gas] barbecue spit and it did come out great. I seem to remember it took quite a bit longer because I couldn't tell it was fully cooked. I now have an instant read probe thermometer so there might be another attempt in my future.
Got a cure for your nasty turkey.
It's upside down turkey.

Prep the turkey as you normally do.
Put it on the rack breast down.
Weave a bacon mat and lay it over the back of turkey.
Cook it for the first hour n a half.
Pull the turkey.
Put the bacon aside for treats.
Flip the turkey to be breast side up.
Finish cooking it.
The breast meat winds up moist and tender. The dark meat gets actually cooked and stays moist. And, you get lots of nice browned skin.
Kay, I recall you (or someone else) mentioning that technique. I also remember my grandmother doing the bacon mat at the start of the process. I hung around the kitchen until the bacon was done so I didn't miss out on the crunchy goodness.

I'm going to print your post and attach it to the last turkey in the freezer so I don't forget.
 
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I finally finished the Schaller drawer tray. I bent the tabs on the short aluminum angle the wrong way but because I annealed the ends I was able to bend them again. Pop rivets hold it all together and it gives me some empty boxes to fill. Still need to go through my scrap wood to find a matching drawer face.
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Gregor (@sakurama) did it again. He showed off a compact pneumatic rivet nut (nutsert) gun. I have a small manual tool but I struggle to set even small rivet nuts. For less than a Benjamin (my comfort zone) I now have a tool that fits in fairly tight spaces and sets 1/4-20, 5/16-18 and 3/8-16 rivet nuts.
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Hanging the short stepladder on the side of the stainless tool chest fixed one problem but created five.
  1. Breathe-Cool Respirator storage
  2. Hoses for Breathe-Cool Respirator storage
  3. Porter Cable 7424XP Variable-Speed Random Orbit Polisher storage
  4. Flex-L3403 Lightweight Polisher storage
  5. Wisetool Variable Speed Dual Action 3" Orbital Polisher storage
I started with the easy stuff, putting the respirator on the HF 1-drawer frankencart. Hung the hoses in two locations, one of which I have already forgotten.

I has already fabricated a simple hanger for my HF 7" buffer/sander.
Buffer Storage on Wood Cabinet 2.jpg
I procured a couple of pieces of aluminum bar stock from Home Depot, hoping to make similar hangers for the polishers, starting with the Porter Cable. Measured thrice, scribed cuts and bends and cut the stock to length. Used Magic Marker on the bend lines. Clamped the piece in the vise so I could anneal the bend areas.
Porter Cable Polisher Mount 1.jpg
I actually remembered not to grab the scorching hot aluminum with my fingers. That clamping tool Mike (@zmotorsports) introduced me to a few years ago was perfect for this job.
Porter Cable Polisher Mount 3.jpg
I used a step drill to drilled a hole and cut one side back to the edge.
Porter Cable Polisher Mount 4.jpg
I haven't decided where I'll mount the buffer but it's a perfect fit that shouldn't fall off because of a light bump.
Porter Cable Polisher Mount 5.jpg
Bob we are going to have start calling you Mr, Organization. I only wish I was halfway to the point you have acheivEd.
Glad to hear that Debby left you relatively untouched.
 
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Sir,
Details (or link) on the riv nut tool.
I used many when I was still working but considered all of them way too expensive for occasional use at home.
@Jgaz, I never used one but I did look into getting one years ago. They were way outside my comfort zone. A cautionary note about my link. The description led me to believe the tool came with metric nutsert anvils. It comes with three SAE anvils, 1/4-20, 5/16-18 and 3/8-16 sizes. It does come with a plastic case with 50 nutserts in each size.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09HRLNVSG?tag=atomicindus08-20
Bob we are going to have start calling you Mr, Organization. I only wish I was halfway to the point you have acheivEd.
Glad to hear that Debby left you relatively untouched.
Emil, I am better than I was when young but I have a terrible problem saving paperwork. I have manuals from tools that left the building years ago. I have tax records going back 30+ years. There's a metal box with most of my paycheck stubs and another shoebox with cancelled checks from the 1960s. I may also have a problem with used hardware -- lately I've been throwing out rusty screws but there are way too many containers with metal trash in them.

Once again, I'm doing everything in my power to ward off hurricanes. No washing or waxing the vehicles and firing up the generator to prove it still runs.
 
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Rarely used, priceless tool the Rivnut tool and attachments.
Rian, I have rarely used that manual Rivnut tool but clearly remember how frustrating it was to use.
I'm starting to worry a little about myself. I checked out the link on the rivnut tool and said to myself. "I think I will pass this time"

And I always keep this pic around to enjoy for moments like this..

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Alan, you know that's not even close. My piece of wood is from 1966:
Sweet, something I want but don't need immediately... It can go on the Christmas list for family! Thanks Bob!
Logan, it's one of those tools that's great to have when you need it rather than needing it and not having it.
 

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I had to stop working out because I would always strip rivnuts with my manual tool because I'm way, way, way too strong and not at all for reasons of technique. Maybe that pneumatic one would apply just the right amount of force that I can toss the manual one out and get back into Mr. Universe shape!
 

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Roger, you're right, it works like a vise-grip but has no teeth. It's a Grip-On 91207 L-Type 7" Axial Grip J-Shaped Locking Pliers. It's great for holding objects like screws and bolts square to the table-mounted band saw and holding objects tight when using the grinder or buffer. It was $27.30 when I bought it five years ago but it's quite a bit more now.
Grip-on 912 L-Type Axial.jpg

Dang, GJ is dangerous territory for a pliers addict. In your fabrication pic, were you holding the work steady so the vise press would do its job without moving the stock? And it's extra handy for the one-handyman, isn't it? You can't have enough clamps or pliers.

Amazon listing shows the other varieties, many looking super handy for welders.
 

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Dang, GJ is dangerous territory for a pliers addict. In your fabrication pic, were you holding the work steady so the vise press would do its job without moving the stock? And it's extra handy for the one-handyman, isn't it? You can't have enough clamps or pliers.

Amazon listing shows the other varieties, many looking super handy for welders.
@Squankum
GJ, is dangerous place for any tool addict of any kind! I joined GJ, because I had just bought my first old US made vise (and had some questions regarding restoration) and I was not even an addict to start with!

After subscribing to the vise thread, in what seemed to be a blink of an eye, I had more than two dozen vises and kept looking and buying more.

Even SWMBO who normally does not comment on my tool fetish, took notice and commented that this was getting “too overwhelming”😀!

I said, honey many men have vices such as addiction, gambling, drinking and some other vices that I can not mention here, etc, I have a vice for vises. Would you prefer the former or the latter 😀.

She said latter is fine but needs to stop here. Now needless to say, what she does not know will not hurt her ;) however it does hurt my back though, hauling 100s of pounds of old American iron and hiding them in the basement and garage.

More recently, I have sold a few after restoring them, some for more that 10 times what I paid for and that did impress her.
 

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@Squankum
GJ, is dangerous place for any tool addict of any kind! I joined GJ, because I had just bought my first old US made vise (and had some questions regarding restoration) and I was not even an addict to start with!

After subscribing to the vise thread, in what seemed to be a blink of an eye, I had more than two dozen vises and kept looking and buying more.

Even SWMBO who normally does not comment on my tool fetish, took notice and commented that this was getting “too overwhelming”😀!

I said, honey many men have vices such as addiction, gambling, drinking and some other vices that I can not mention here, etc, I have a vice for vises. Would you prefer the former or the latter 😀.

She said latter is fine but needs to stop here. Now needless to say, what she does not know will not hurt her ;) however it does hurt my back though, hauling 100s of pounds of old American iron and hiding them in the basement and garage.

More recently, I have solid a few after restoring them, some for more that 10 times what I paid for and that did impressed her.

Love it!


Robin Williams owned almost 100 bicycles. Called himself "bikesexual." This was after his cocaine years.

87 were auctioned for charity:

 
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I have a manual rivnut tool and it is a little awkward at times, but it does the job and most important I already OWN it.
Andrew, I've used the manual rivnut tool but only for the small ones. As much grip strength as those required, I know I won't be able to set a 1/4-20 one with the manual tool.
I had to stop working out because I would always strip rivnuts with my manual tool because I'm way, way, way too strong and not at all for reasons of technique. Maybe that pneumatic one would apply just the right amount of force that I can toss the manual one out and get back into Mr. Universe shape!
Tom, that's not even a first world problem. That's another planet problem.

The pneumatic tool has some quirks. The instructions specify a minimum 100psi for it to work properly. I had been thinking of hooking it up to my CPAP machine since that doesn't get used much in the daytime but 11psi won't cut it.
Dang, GJ is dangerous territory for a pliers addict. In your fabrication pic, were you holding the work steady so the vise press would do its job without moving the stock? And it's extra handy for the one-handyman, isn't it? You can't have enough clamps or pliers.

Amazon listing shows the other varieties, many looking super handy for welders.
@Squankum, that particular tool has smooth jaws so it doesn't mark the aluminum. The little brake was doing all the work and the pliers were along for the ride. The bright orange color also reminded me not to grab the aluminum because it was still hot from the torch.

I am easily tricked into buying all kinds of clamps and pliers. Actually I'm easily tricked into buying all kinds of stuff, especially tools.
@Squankum
GJ, is dangerous place for any tool addict of any kind! I joined GJ, because I had just bought my first old US made vise (and had some questions regarding restoration) and I was not even an addict to start with!

After subscribing to the vise thread, in what seemed to be a blink of an eye, I had more than two dozen vises and kept looking and buying more.

Even SWMBO who normally does not comment on my tool fetish, took notice and commented that this was getting “too overwhelming”😀!

I said, honey many men have vices such as addiction, gambling, drinking and some other vices that I can not mention here, etc, I have a vice for vises. Would you prefer the former or the latter 😀.

She said latter is fine but needs to stop here. Now needless to say, what she does not know will not hurt her ;) however it does hurt my back though, hauling 100s of pounds of old American iron and hiding them in the basement and garage.

More recently, I have sold a few after restoring them, some for more that 10 times what I paid for and that did impress her.
@gman007, I quit smoking a half dozen times and it has been 15 years since the last quitting. I quit drinking 21 years ago when my Scotch and Vodka intake reached 3 liters a week. If I quit buying tools I'd quit living so Liane puts up with this addiction.

My seven vises are only valuable to me. I fear restoring any of them to new condition would make me afraid to use them so the dings and chips remain.

I don't think I've sold anything for what I paid for it, let alone 10 time what I paid for it. OK, I have made some stock purchases that have increased more than 10 times what I paid for them but I've also made stock purchases that went the other way.
 

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...I don't think I've sold anything for what I paid for it, let alone 10 time what I paid for it. OK, I have made some stock purchases that have increased more than 10 times what I paid for them but I've also made stock purchases that went the other way.

Hear! hear! This statement made me stop and take stock of my entire life with the goal of recalling a single incident in which I sold something for more than or as much as I paid. Seems everyone else I know has some kind of a story of buying a truck and then COVID hits and then the dealer calls and asks to buy it back for 30% more than paid, but that never happens to me. (I'm the guy who buys the truck at the 30% mark-up and then finds out it's full of rats.) Or they bought a video game console in 1992 and just sold it for $1000. Or they bought tickets to a game, couldn't go, and sold the tickets for twice what they paid. The list goes on.

I just accept that everything I spend money on is a sinkhole, and then I don't have to worry about it. Vehicles, tools, etc. get used hard because I'm not trying to preserve them for antiquity. I guess I've taken that same approach with my body, and this approach hasn't been working out too well of late...
 

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She said latter is fine but needs to stop here. Now needless to say, what she does not know will not hurt her ;) however it does hurt my back though, hauling 100s of pounds of old American iron and hiding them in the basement and garage.
For gosh sakes don't hide store them in the attic!
Robin Williams owned almost 100 bicycles. Called himself "bikesexual." This was after his cocaine years.
Other than diecast cars (we don't talk about that vice) my largest collection seems to meters. Voltmeters, DVMs, VTVMs, Clamp Ammeters, just bought a cute little digital O'scope. It's a sickness! (Metersex.. ah, never mind)
I am easily tricked into buying all kinds of clamps and pliers. Actually I'm easily tricked into buying all kinds of stuff, especially tools.
My favorites right now are a MagSwitch featherboard for the tablesaw and a Noga articulating arm dial indicator base. Both from somebody's mention..
I don't think I've sold anything for what I paid for it, let alone 10 time what I paid for it. OK, I have made some stock purchases that have increased more than 10 times what I paid for them but I've also made stock purchases that went the other way.
Bob - buy high, sell low seems to be my fortune. I retired in '07, cashed out my vacation and sick leave into a state recommend investment account, but had to roll it into a Roth when I actually left. I moved the money Mid-October of '07. Bad timing $32K to $19K in very short order (thank you sub-prime lenders for the crash!).
 

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My seven vises are only valuable to me. I fear restoring any of them to new condition would make me afraid to use them so the dings and chips remain.

I don't think I've sold anything for what I paid for it, let alone 10 time what I paid for it. OK, I have made some stock purchases that have increased more than 10 times what I paid for them but I've also made stock purchases that went the other way.
Bob
I agree with you 100% on when tools are restored, they become shelf queens never to be used (at least for me)!

As an example starting with vises. Exhibit A: Some of the smaller restored vises found their way (I do not know how :unsure: ;)) into my home office (which later, after serious complaints from upper management, the vises were cruelly evicted).

Another example and for a totally different tool (yes I also restore other US made only tools) Exhibit B, a US made Milwaukee hammer drill, painstakingly re-wired and restored, runs like a champ and now lives in a box (I use my 20v brushless dewalt hammer drill when I need one).

Now having said that, as far as using vises is concerned, I use two unrestored as found in wild vises. A Reed 404 1/2 (4.5” wide jaws, weighing around 90 lb) which not only has a swivel base but also it has a swivel jaw. The other wise is a Chas Parker 974 (4” wide jaws, weighing 60 lbs)

As for selling a few vises, honestly the motivation was not financial (for the amount of time and effort I put into the restorations, I figured I am made 10c an hour :)) but rather to appease the upper management (happy wife happy life :beer:) and show good faith;) that I am doing something about the addiction!
 

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Hear! hear! This statement made me stop and take stock of my entire life with the goal of recalling a single incident in which I sold something for more than or as much as I paid. Seems everyone else I know has some kind of a story of buying a truck and then COVID hits and then the dealer calls and asks to buy it back for 30% more than paid, but that never happens to me. (I'm the guy who buys the truck at the 30% mark-up and then finds out it's full of rats.) Or they bought a video game console in 1992 and just sold it for $1000. Or they bought tickets to a game, couldn't go, and sold the tickets for twice what they paid. The list goes on.

I just accept that everything I spend money on is a sinkhole, and then I don't have to worry about it. Vehicles, tools, etc. get used hard because I'm not trying to preserve them for antiquity. I guess I've taken that same approach with my body, and this approach hasn't been working out too well of late...
Tom, I try to temper my disappointment knowing it can always be worse. We bought our first house in 1966 (3BR, 1BA 1-car garage). The house was built in 1952. The house was listed for $16,900, dropped to $15,900 and sold to us for $14,500. Turns out the house cost $14,500 when it was new. We sold that place in 1975 for $32,500 and thought we won the lottery. It sold again in 1987 for $118.500 and is estimated to be worth $552,000 today. Did I mention I ordered a brand new Vega GT in 1971 and paid MSRP ($2,700)?
For gosh sakes don't hide store them in the attic!

Other than diecast cars (we don't talk about that vice) my largest collection seems to meters. Voltmeters, DVMs, VTVMs, Clamp Ammeters, just bought a cute little digital O'scope. It's a sickness! (Metersex.. ah, never mind)

My favorites right now are a MagSwitch featherboard for the tablesaw and a Noga articulating arm dial indicator base. Both from somebody's mention..

Bob - buy high, sell low seems to be my fortune. I retired in '07, cashed out my vacation and sick leave into a state recommend investment account, but had to roll it into a Roth when I actually left. I moved the money Mid-October of '07. Bad timing $32K to $19K in very short order (thank you sub-prime lenders for the crash!).
Gerry, in my youth I owned 200+ plastic model cars that I customized. I always threw out the box as soon as I was done so the collection was and would be worth today about Zilch, give or take a plastic garbage bag.

I have seen the MagSwitch site and am attending meetings because of it. Before I could even think about it, a MagSwitch BoomerAngle was in my basket and on its way to my front porch. It's one of my extra hand tools for holding steel at the proper angle when welding. In my defense it was $44.97 + 17.86 (shipping) = $62.83.
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Mine is a Ridgid brand with their color instead of the yellow.
Mag-Switch 30mm BoomerAngle 1.jpg
My mother passed away in 2008 and I inherited her condominium. She paid $49,000 for it and at the time of her death it was appraised at $250,000. I had to rent it for a couple of years but eventually sold it for $84,000. It sold in January 2023 for $370,000.

I don't sell or buy real estate with profit in mind. I have to live somewhere and selling one place for a huge profit means I'll have to buy a smaller place in a less desirable location to actually benefit from the sale and then I'll have a new set of issues to deal with. Makes no sense to me.
 

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The pneumatic tool has some quirks. The instructions specify a minimum 100psi for it to work properly. I had been thinking of hooking it up to my CPAP machine since that doesn't get used much in the daytime but 11psi won't cut it.

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Uhhh...... We have a discrepancy in measurement units here....
Your CPAP is measured in cm H2O.
11 cm H2O CPAP setting is about 0.156457 psi per Mr. Google.
11 PSI would be about 770 cm H2O.
100 PSI is about 7030 cm H2O.

My first thought was Rocket Sled Face.....
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I've had good luck with buying and selling for more in the past, tools, cars, and general stuff. Nothing earth shattering or retirement profit. But enough to keep doing it and support other hobbies with the profit. Only thing is, the profit I made is usually due to the time and work I put into getting the said item in selling condition. Hence the lawnmowers, I spend an hour or 2 on each one that I sold, and usually I aim for a $60+ an hour profit. So, is it really luck or just work that is making me money?

Lately I've sold a bunch of stuff at a lost and that's ok cause I'm just tired of looking at it in the garage. Some of it just goes in the trash as I realize that it's not worth the headache of keeping anymore to wait for the next person to take it. It's just how it is sometimes.

As for stock related purchases, I hired a financial advisor to handle that aspect, and I got him on speed dial in case I have questions. He usually gives me a call on certain things too when he sees a good opportunity, so it's a good relationship. Currently I don't care to look at any of that stuff so it's nice to have someone monitor my investments for me. To me it's just play money at the moment.
 
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I have seen the MagSwitch site and am attending meetings because of it. Before I could even think about it, a MagSwitch BoomerAngle was in my basket and on its way to my front porch. It's one of my extra hand tools for holding steel at the proper angle when welding. In my defense it was $44.97 + 17.86 (shipping) = $62.83.
Funny, same thing is happening to me as I read this.


Bob, you're an enabler, time and time again...
 
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