KnurledNut
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Knipex posted a new fall update today announcing the release of new sizes of the TwinGrips, here :
Knipex TwinGrip new sizes: 150mm & 250mm
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Oddly enough, although they're out of stock, I saw those the other day listed on DRPD.
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These are obviously going to sell well, but I always thought of them more for removing tiny screws, not full size bolts. The big pair goes up to 20 mm, but I really don't see how you could possibly generate enough torque with a pair of pliers to remove a bolt that large. I don't believe for a second that someone didn't break free the bolts on that engine before the demonstration.
Still, the guys at Engineer must have felt a disturbance in the force this afternoon.
Still, the guys at Engineer must have felt a disturbance in the force this afternoon.
Interesting to see that the jaws of the new models have been beefed up (compare tips and machined surfaces of the jaw sides in the first few seconds of that video). Maybe too many failures with the original?
IMO it may be just the renderings & the examples shown. I've had a number of TwinGrips in hand, they all varied in grinds. The 2 that I personally own are different. Not only TwinGrips, Cobras & Alligators (and probably others I haven't seen personally) varied in jaw grinds, some very inconsistent & at times poorly ground as well. I've returned/exchanged a couple because of this.
I expect there will be variances with these new sizes also. I'm definitely in for the 6", the bigger one I don't have a need for.
I haven't heard of any TwinGrip failures. Mine certainly don't seem they may fail. They don't see very hard use though, one at work, one at home.
Skyman
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Can't have too many pliers, and I'm sure these will be useful at times. As far as breaking loose that large bolt in the video, if it were rounded in normal use, it would have likely been torqued way beyond the minimal withdrawal force that was demonstrated in the video. So I see some marketing exaggeration in the demo, but that doesn't mean I won't buy the tools.
neophyte
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The Twingrips use a box joint, were the one leg sits Between the split other leg, allowing for more twisting torque.
Most common pliers nowadays, and slip joint pliers, use lap joints, held in place by rivets.
Lap joints only have maximum strength while twisting in one direction. (Basically if you twist in whatever direction that fir es the two kegs together).
If you twist in the opposite direction with lap joint pliers, all the force gets concentrated on the connecting rivet.
Torque from twisting the Twingrip pliers is equal no matter which direction the pliers are twisted, and while it will vary depending on jaw opening a bit, this variation will likely not cause too nany issues.
Still, a serrated socket would likely produce more torque is it would fit.
And yes, I do think the bolts were pre loosened.
neophyte
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Also,
Knipex should make the Twingrips in Chrome.
Knipex should make the Twingrips in Chrome.
If they continue to reach meme status like the Cobras, they may release yet additional sizes.
neophyte
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I’m hoping for a 22” pair.
mike93lx
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That's what they are counting on. Every marketing person's dream... The can sling a pile of ******** and people don't care. They must have learned from apple
The difference is that the amount of people who will watch a plier demonstration video is extremely limited compared to people who watch the apple ads.
I always wanted to grab a pair but also always struggle to find a reason to do it. I just don't think I'd have a lot of use for one.
Their tapered nose combination pliers however, are probably my most used pliers now. They are just perfect and feel like a surgical tool compared to regular combination pliers while being just as rigid.
Finally got my 150. I waited for Amazon to get it to me cause it was $27. As someone said, smaller than I expected & would like a 180. But whatever, I like em & I'll be keeping them. I have no interest in the 220 though.
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One per nostril!Finally got my 150. I waited for Amazon to get it to me cause it was $27. As someone said, smaller than I expected & would like a 180. But whatever, I like em & I'll be keeping them. I have no interest in the 220 though.
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Just got the 250 Twin Grip. Very nice but one disappointing aspect is that the in line grip / jaw is actually much smaller than on the 200 size. I guess that might be to leave more metal thickness for strength, since the pliers are longer and more force might be applied? Just a guess. The normal jaw width across the end seems to be the same as the 200. Which also seems odd. I was expecting larger in every aspect. Nice pliers but too bad on the sizing.
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