Does anyone know if Autel MP808 will talk to Ferrari

[cgrutt]

Have opportunity to possibly do some diag work and repair issue with convertible top on 2003 Ferrari 360 Spider. Only problem is its 2-1/2 hrs drive and I'm not sure if my Autel will communicate with it. To my surprise it seems to have the correct menus. Unfortunately don't have access to vehicle to see if it actually works. Anybody have experience with this particular combination? @2ndGearRubber???

Saw video online and an inexpensive Bluetooth Thinkcar scanner seems to work. What has me concerned is guy on video said it's the only scan tool he has gotten to actually work on car aside from factory scanner which is apparently big $$$$. Trying to decide if I should order the Thinkcar to have as backup before I make trip. It's about $100.

 

[Chipm]

My DS808 talks to Maserati. I would expect it will. Check Autel Vehicle Coverage

Also, if you don't have the factory service manual go ahead and start signup - it takes a while to go back and forth getting a login.

 

[cgrutt]

My DS808 talks to Maserati. I would expect it will. Check Autel Vehicle Coverage

Also, if you don't have the factory service manual go ahead and start signup - it takes a while to go back and forth getting a login.

Thanks for that link I must have been at different site and couldn't find my model number. It says its supported and mirrors the menus that actually are showing up on scanner so I'll assume it will work. I'm still amazed at everything this scanner has handled for me.

 

[joecon]

Any car sold in the us after 1996 has to have ODBII access to the computer. Generic ODBII it is called any scan tool can get that information. I am glad to see the Autel has access I was thinking about gating one. let us know if it works.

 

[mike93lx]

Any car sold in the us after 1996 has to have ODBII access to the computer. Generic ODBII it is called any scan tool can get that information. I am glad to see the Autel has access I was thinking about gating one. let us know if it works.

Guessing engine trouble codes are probably not the main issue with a convertible top problem

 

[cgrutt]

Any car sold in the us after 1996 has to have ODBII access to the computer. Generic ODBII it is called any scan tool can get that information. I am glad to see the Autel has access I was thinking about gating one. let us know if it works.

I'm not talking about the generic OBDII codes this is basically a hack/clone of the OEM software. The specific module I need to look at is the CTS ("Capote") which just controls convertible top and hydraulics for the rear panel. A generic code reader will generally not even see a module like this. I'm really surprised the Autel appears to support this. Will definitely update how it works out.

 

[MOS3522]

Interested

 

[2ndGearRubber]

Just looking at software, the Autel shows Ferrari software, Topdon and snap on do not. Think car, kingbolen, all of that appears to be launch software so I doubt they'll have anything my Topdon doesn't.

I don't do Ferrari so I have no direct experence. I would consider calling autel or emailing them about whether or not they KNOW the data is there and stuff works right.

 

[cgrutt]

Just looking at software, the Autel shows Ferrari software, Topdon and snap on do not. Think car, kingbolen, all of that appears to be launch software so I doubt they'll have anything my Topdon doesn't.

I don't do Ferrari so I have no direct experence. I would consider calling autel or emailing them about whether or not they KNOW the data is there and stuff works right.

Thanks I'm just going to plug it in and see if it works. Not really sure if it's needed was just hoping if it threw a code would point me in right direction. I already have suspicion it's low on fluid or one of the limit switches became misaligned or a wire got pinched. I did watch video of somebody using the Thinkdiag tool on the same year and make and the software appeared to work. It had the same lingo as what's on the Autel so I'm assuming the Autel will work as well. Just surprised it includes this more than anything else. I may try to get up there tomorrow but have an important family matter that may change plans. Appreciate your comments as always.

 

[cgrutt]

This is the video with the ThinkDiag (ThinkCar) scanner and same car that I need to check. I'm interested in the CTS module the video shows this module was read by the ThinkDiag tool but didn't go any further with this particular module. The Autel site says the MP808 supports ECU Info, read/erase codes and live data for the CTS Module.

Screenshot from video above showing scanner picked up the CTS module.

 

[tak1313]

Glad to know, in case I win the lottery...though even then I don't know if I'd buy a Ferrari - I heard Jay Leno refuses to buy one because of how he was treated by a dealer when he was looking into getting one.

 

[dcg9381]

Glad to know, in case I win the lottery...though even then I don't know if I'd buy a Ferrari - I heard Jay Leno refuses to buy one because of how he was treated by a dealer when he was looking into getting one.

Not that I'm in the market, but one does not simply go out and buy a Ferrari. You've got to be on a list, be able to show a series of progressive ownership, or be part of a family that has owned these cars. Maybe an "influencer" or professional athlete.

They're like buying those "elite" purses, doesn't matter how much money is in your wallet.

Beautiful cars. If I ever owned one, I'd put it on rotisserie in the living room...

 

[cgrutt]

Glad to know, in case I win the lottery...though even then I don't know if I'd buy a Ferrari - I heard Jay Leno refuses to buy one because of how he was treated by a dealer when he was looking into getting one.

I don't own one either and probably never will. I do appreciate the fact that a relatively inexpensive tool that I own may be able to help me fix a problem for somebody that does. Just passing along some info that may help others in the future.

Personally I'd never base a decision on what some entertainer says or does but whatever floats your boat...

 

[dnschmidt]

Just looking at software, the Autel shows Ferrari software, Topdon and snap on do not. Think car, kingbolen, all of that appears to be launch software so I doubt they'll have anything my Topdon doesn't.

I don't do Ferrari so I have no direct experence. I would consider calling autel or emailing them about whether or not they KNOW the data is there and stuff works right.

Hey Scott, Are you telling me there aren't a lot of Testarossa's in the hood. That's shocking.

 

[2ndGearRubber]

Hey Scott, Are you telling me there aren't a lot of Testarossa's in the hood. That's shocking.

My very limited experence is with f40s and the tube chassis race cars LOL. Lamborghini and Porsche seem more popular, although there's a local McLaren and 458 that run around.

Not that I want anything to do with working on them, or the Lamborghinis. All my Porsche customers are 15+ year old cars so I don't want to work on those either.

 

[Toold_up]

Glad to know, in case I win the lottery...though even then I don't know if I'd buy a Ferrari - I heard Jay Leno refuses to buy one because of how he was treated by a dealer when he was looking into getting one.

Do you have a link to where he said that? I'm curious who snubbed him.

 

[tak1313]

Do you have a link to where he said that? I'm curious who snubbed him.

I saw it on a YT video, but it's all over in written form if you Google something like "Jay Leno won't buy a Ferrari."
example: https://www.hotcars.com/this-is-why-jay-leno-doesnt-own-a-single-ferrari/

I don't own one either and probably never will. I do appreciate the fact that a relatively inexpensive tool that I own may be able to help me fix a problem for somebody that does. Just passing along some info that may help others in the future.

Personally I'd never base a decision on what some entertainer says or does but whatever floats your boat...

I wouldn't buy a Ferrari JUST because Jay Leno wouldn't buy one. I wouldn't buy one because of the snobbery - there are others who have pointed to the same experience with Ferrari dealers, and there are other products made by other manufacturers that I don't purchase (that I can afford) for the same reason. Yes, that is my PERSONAL preference.

 

[Toold_up]

I saw it on a YT video, but it's all over in written form if you Google something like "Jay Leno won't buy a Ferrari."
example: https://www.hotcars.com/this-is-why-jay-leno-doesnt-own-a-single-ferrari/



I wouldn't buy a Ferrari JUST because Jay Leno wouldn't buy one. I wouldn't buy one because of the snobbery - there are others who have pointed to the same experience with Ferrari dealers, and there are other products made by other manufacturers that I don't purchase (that I can afford) for the same reason. Yes, that is my PERSONAL preference.

Ah I see! Thank you for digging that up, I understand.

 

[cgrutt]

I saw it on a YT video, but it's all over in written form if you Google something like "Jay Leno won't buy a Ferrari."
example: https://www.hotcars.com/this-is-why-jay-leno-doesnt-own-a-single-ferrari/



I wouldn't buy a Ferrari JUST because Jay Leno wouldn't buy one. I wouldn't buy one because of the snobbery - there are others who have pointed to the same experience with Ferrari dealers, and there are other products made by other manufacturers that I don't purchase (that I can afford) for the same reason. Yes, that is my PERSONAL preference.

Great! The thread was never about the Ferrari or those who chose to buy them for whatever reason. It was about if the cheap Chinese knock off tool I already own would be able to read the data in one of the vehicle's modules to facilitate a possible repair. Have a nice day.

 

[rust in the eye]

My very limited experence is with f40s and the tube chassis race cars LOL. Lamborghini and Porsche seem more popular, although there's a local McLaren and 458 that run around.

Not that I want anything to do with working on them, or the Lamborghinis. All my Porsche customers are 15+ year old cars so I don't want to work on those either.

you have my attention, tell me more please

 

[2ndGearRubber]

you have my attention, tell me more please

I helped do some minor brake work on a 250 GTO before the vintage grand prix. It's mostly tube's inside. I was pretty young in my career. Gorgeous v12 with 12 carbs, well its 12 trumpets, probably 6 carbs. Sounds amazing. IDK if they're body on frame, like a ladder frame, or it's all on tubes. The shop I was at didn't write it up, because the insurance obviously didn't cover it. It was a favor to the owner, I don't think he even got charged anything.

 

[joecon]

I worked on some 450 challenge cars years ago; all I remember was a cable and a cd. I don't think I ever tried to scan them.

 

[JSGAuto]

Funny story, I was trying to clear a code, everone told me I needed a $25K (really) factory tool, or go to the dealer. I had emailed Autel, and they stated they don't support Ferrari.

Because it was cheap, I figured I would try their little bluetooth tool......

And successfully used the Autel AP200 (its $50!) to communicate with my 2001 360. That was an airbag issue thou.

I was surprised it worked! I think you have a good shot of it working too. I would try it for you, but I have a coupe.

Please let us know if you are successful. I was looking for at the Launch tools to do more significant work. Finding info on what actually works is difficult. Not a huge community of Ferrari owners, and many fewer of them turn a wrench. (BTW, not all of us are snobs.)

Jim

 

[cgrutt]

Good to hear @JSGAuto will update if it actually works. This scanner keeps surprising me with what it has been able to do so my guess is it will work. Just joined a Ferrari forum hopefully somebody will pass along link to workshop manual. I will share that with you if you need it. I checked AlldataDIY and it doesn't look like they support Ferrari.

 

[cgrutt]

So received a pm with link to service manual not sure if member wants to remain anonymous or not so will leave it at that. Just wanted to express my sincere appreciation you guys are the best! May try to get up there tomorrow to see if I can repair issue. Will post results either way. My son is at school only a few miles away. Bonus I get to see him and he gets to check out a Ferrari. Maybe get to test drive too. Will see how it goes...

 

[charbar]

Hopefully it works for you. I will say that my Autel Ultra will sometimes show that it has scanned a module (when I scan the entire vehicle) and show that it is communicating and no codes but if I try to go into that specific module it will show a no comm. even when my Snap On will communicate fine.

Happened twice to me today actually. First on a 2019 Chevy Silverado and then a 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee. And those vehicles are far from exotic

I guess all I'm trying to say is don't get too excited by the video you linked to showing that the ThinkCar says it communicated with the top module.

 

[cgrutt]

Hopefully it works for you. I will say that my Autel Ultra will sometimes show that it has scanned a module (when I scan the entire vehicle) and show that it is communicating and no codes but if I try to go into that specific module it will show a no comm. even when my Snap On will communicate fine.

Happened twice to me today actually. First on a 2019 Chevy Silverado and then a 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee. And those vehicles are far from exotic

I guess all I'm trying to say is don't get too excited by the video you linked to showing that the ThinkCar says it communicated with the top module.

Thanks, oh I've got no expectations that this will work. I've just been surprised by all it has done. Got a pretty good idea what problems might be. If Autel shows me a code it's bonus points.

 

[cgrutt]

So the Autel works, at least partially, on the Ferrari. It scanned most of the modules but could not find the Capote module, which I thought was a bit strange and lead me to believe problem with top was either a bad module or power supply problem. It turned out to be a power supply problem, which I only discovered quite by accident. The car had a built in radar detector which fortunately was connected to same circuit as the Capote module. While looking at module I just happened to touch a connector in wiring harness and the radar detector went off. I showed the gentleman and he said yeah can you remove the radar detector it's driving me nuts keeps going on and off. I said oh, you mean like this... and moved the wiring harness. He said exactly. I said I don't think the radar detector is the problem I think there is a loose or broken wire in the harness. I moved it to a position where radar detector was working and wouldn't you know it, the top started working too! He was thrilled but his wife was even happier. He apparently spent past two weeks trying to resolve issue with no luck. It turned out to be loose connection on main ground wire within the connector. I put a jumper bypassing the connector and told him it would try to find connector or terminals and will replace it next time I'm upstate. In the meantime top is working fine.

The Autel was able to see the Capote module after power was resolved but got hung up scanning it with a no network connection found. Not sure if this mirrors factory software and was looking for a Ferrari server or if it just wanted the Autel connected to Internet. I didn't test it any further. The other modules seemed to scan fine but I didn't spend anymore time with that as problem with top was resolved.

We spent several hours talking to the guy and his wife afterwards. What an interesting couple. The gentleman was a car afficionado and has had some really nice and some extraordinarily rare cars over the years. One was a 1935 Lincoln V12 that was apparently one of only fifteen ever made. He has some cars that he previously owned in museums. He's owned many Ferraris, Jaguars, a Ford GT, original Shelby Cobra 427 among others. Really interesting character.

I think I got my son a driving gig to take him and his wife to the local Casio or restaurants. My son goes to school about 15 minutes away from where they live and absolutely loves the types of cars he owns I told them they would love him. They said they would definitely call him. My son was thrilled when I told him. They currently own the Ferrari, a beautiful Maserati (I think he said with a Ferrari 430 engine he started it up and it sounded like a track car LOL) and a new Mercedes SUV.

Fun day.

Ferrari



Maserati

 

[Chipm]

Good job solving it! For some cars, the Autel wants to be connected to the internet but it usually asks to do this immediately after scanning the VIN.

 

[cgrutt]

Good job solving it! For some cars, the Autel wants to be connected to the internet but it usually asks to do this immediately after scanning the VIN.

It's funny it didn't even seem to want a VIN. It scanned the other modules fine without it but couldn't see the Capote module (with power to the module off). I actually had to back all the way out of the Ferrari software to the main menu and scan for VIN. The scan didn't find it so I entered VIN manually. This took me back to the Ferrari software. I think that's all the Autel uses VIN for as once I was in the program I still had to select vehicle model manually. I don't recall ever having to connect to Internet before with Autel aside from updates. It seemed to work on all the other modules just hung up with network error on the Capote module after power was restored to the module. I could have spent more time trying to figure it out but owner was standing next to me and I didn't want to waste his time as I already knew what the problem was with vehicle. I might try to scan it again when I put new connector on. Just curious at this point more than anything else.

 

[Run Away]

Glad to hear his Capote isn't kaput.

 

[cgrutt]

Temporary fix i need to find a connector to replace this one (or terminals). I just soldered a jumper to bypass terminal. I considered crip terminals but thought this looked more "professional" ha ha. Anyway it's just temporary i told him I'd replace the connector. I told him if it were my car I'd just cut the connector out completely and hardwire it but he wanted to keep the vehicle as close to stock as possible. He's thrilled the top works.

 

[JSGAuto]

Awesome news on the scanner.

Congrats on finding the issue too! You just need to go for a ride in it in the spring!

 

[cgrutt]

Awesome news on the scanner.

Congrats on finding the issue too! You just need to go for a ride in it in the spring!

Personally I couldn't give a hoot but I'm trying to get my son in their good graces lol. Now he would like that very much! They were both such cool down to earth people with such interesting stories. Very happy to have met them and was able to help.

 

[Sumboodie]

I know the Autel MK808S I have is very MEH for even common vehicles. It's a $400 unit so would expect it to be at least halfway decent.

Finding functions is through weird menus, it freezes up randomly, etc.
Did a 7.3L injector contribution test, knowing there was a bad injector and it claimed they were all good.
A Solus scanner found the bad one quickly.

 

[cgrutt]

I know the Autel MK808S I have is very MEH for even common vehicles. It's a $400 unit so would expect it to be at least halfway decent.

Finding functions is through weird menus, it freezes up randomly, etc.
Did a 7.3L injector contribution test, knowing there was a bad injector and it claimed they were all good.
A Solus scanner found the bad one quickly.

Sorry to hear that. I'm really confused by Autel's product numbering scheme. They seem to have many multiples of nearly identical looking products with very similar product numbers and it's really hard to tell what differences are between them. I don't know anything about the model you are referring to. I've posted before about my scanner and all the projects it has allowed me to tackle. Never really expected it to be able to do all that it has done. I'm not a pro so maybe the bar is a bit lower but I'm very happy with it.

 

[Sumboodie]

Sorry to hear that. I'm really confused by Autel's product numbering scheme. They seem to have many multiples of nearly identical looking products with very similar product numbers and it's really hard to tell what differences are between them. I don't know anything about the model you are referring to. I've posted before about my scanner and all the projects it has allowed me to tackle. Never really expected it to be able to do all that it has done. I'm not a pro so maybe the bar is a bit lower but I'm very happy with it.

I tried looking them up to see the difference and I'm just more confused!

Agree their models are super confusing!