theoldwizard1
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I am looking for a small, 1/2 ton or less, BIDIRECTIONAL rope puller. Basically a chain hoist for rope, with a lever. Or a come-a-long that does NOT spool up the taken up rope.
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yhprum
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You might look at fishing line winches or maybe the sailing world has something for lifting sails up the mast.
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JimH74
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I have a Massdam rope puller. Don't know how to post pictures, but you can google search it. It does not wind up the rope. I think mine is 3/4 t though. Don't know if they make smaller
Beerhippie
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I think you're looking for a capstan winch.
Years ago, we used what I recall as being called yankee winches (nothing on these on Google) that were a capstan winch mounted to a chainsaw as ski lifts on fixed ropes.
Loud, slow and heavy to carry while skiing back down, but handy as one could establish a ski run on any slope you had a rope long enough to span.
Years ago, we used what I recall as being called yankee winches (nothing on these on Google) that were a capstan winch mounted to a chainsaw as ski lifts on fixed ropes.
Loud, slow and heavy to carry while skiing back down, but handy as one could establish a ski run on any slope you had a rope long enough to span.
john.k
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One of the Tirfor type pullers..........I dont like anything to do with wire rope ,but maybe they can be used with Dynema .
Old Man Roger
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Huh?
I’ve seen a series of pulleys used to pull a vehicle out of the mud with a come along at the end of the rope, or even just man power at the end of the rope, but never something that pulled the rope with a lever.
Skip ahead to 4:12 to see a smaller version of what I’m talking about.
Wouldn’t what you’re describing require some serious pressure pinching the rope? Probably not great for the rope.
I guess I could envision a system that let the rope out the bottom of a come along type of mechanism, but I could also see it tangling pretty easily.
Old Man Roger
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A traction winch?
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Beerhippie
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Both are examples of capstan winches.
john.k
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When I was a kid,we got a truck stuck and the old man rigged up ropes and pulleys to drag it out.....We literally busted our guts for 3 days ..........I have sure got an appreciation for winches on trucks now.
Old Man Roger
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I thought of a boat trailer type winch when you said it.
Muckin_Slusher
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Maasdam Rope Puller.
I've got a few. They're awesome.
3/4 ton I recall (so slightly out of your 1/2 ton spec...) but I've never seen anything similar.
I've got a few. They're awesome.
3/4 ton I recall (so slightly out of your 1/2 ton spec...) but I've never seen anything similar.
Old Man Roger
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I must have seen one of those before and forgot, that’s exactly what I envisioned.
tyyost
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I second the masdam rope winch, I bought it for helping pull trees to make sure they fall where intended. I bought a kit with pulling rope from an arbor supply store. It was a little tricky at first to figure out the orientation of everything but man does that thing pull.
finn
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Menards used to carry a small rope winch typically used for things like hoisting your deer on a buck pole at deer camp.
Only cost a few dollars, but has no where to near a half ton capacity
Only cost a few dollars, but has no where to near a half ton capacity
Those look really cool. About as expensive as you would expect for something that looks like it belongs on a sailboat, but really simple and slick.
Muckin_Slusher
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So, are you asking for something that can pull the rope in both directions?
Need more details, what are you wanting to do?
I needed to pull two ways for the auger lifter I built for a friend.
The pipe in the middle acts like a capstan winch, either rope can get pulled, depending on which way you crank the handle. This allowed me to lift the auger, or put down pressure.
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theoldwizard1
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Load/unload heavy, wheeled up and down ramps into the back of my pickup.
Muckin_Slusher
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Boat winch or Warn drill winch wouldn't work for you?
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theoldwizard1
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Looking for something smaller and lighter duty and less expensive. Also not permanently mounted.
SEGUE - First, sometime I need to plead guilty to the following ! Why do people propose solution to a problem that DO NOT FULFILL THE INITIAL PROBLEM STATEMENT !
Old Man Roger
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Maasdam Rope Puller.
I've got a few. They're awesome.
3/4 ton I recall (so slightly out of your 1/2 ton spec...) but I've never seen anything similar.
These guys both seem to have solved your problem. It feeds the rope out the bottom.
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theoldwizard1
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I thought the MAASDAM were PULL only !
Old Man Roger
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Now you're just being picky.lol
Beerhippie
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For use on a sailboat, multiply the high price by about ten! Marine bronze is expensive and winches is shiny!
In fact, winch theft is a major problem if you don't moor your boat at a very secure dock facility--like full-time security staff, cameras, locked gates, etc. Bastards will use a cordless saws-all and just rip the deck out around the winch, much like stealing cat converters, but a much higher margin.
Muckin_Slusher
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Friggin crabby old *******.
Come here with a retarded thread title (nobody in the future will ever be able to find this thread when they're looking for something similar).
First post is vague at best. Which of those categories are flexible? None? Ok. Good luck.
I find when I'm looking for something and it's difficult to find, it's because I'm trying to do something the hard way. Much easier to NOT reinvent the wheel.
Come here with a retarded thread title (nobody in the future will ever be able to find this thread when they're looking for something similar).
First post is vague at best. Which of those categories are flexible? None? Ok. Good luck.
I find when I'm looking for something and it's difficult to find, it's because I'm trying to do something the hard way. Much easier to NOT reinvent the wheel.
Okay, sorry, I have a hard time following here. First of all, I've seen the Maasdam puller around forever but never realized it didn't spool the rope. I thought it was just a come along with a synthetic rope instead of a wire rope. It's very cool, and I'm going to buy one, but it does not address the initial requirements of being bidirectional. The only thing I've seen that meets that requirement is a tirfor, but they are not light, and NOT cheap, and use a wire rope, which kind of ***** to work with (I have one).
So was the bidirectional pull an actual requirement or not? OP, have we solved it?
So was the bidirectional pull an actual requirement or not? OP, have we solved it?
So based on this, we assume gravity will take care of the "unloading" part right? So it needs to be able to control the payout under load, but not necessarily pull in both directions right?
You clearly have a very particular application in mind, but don't want to tell us what it is. So no surprise you get answers that assume you're doing something else.
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theoldwizard1
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"Pull" is was a poor choice of words on my part !
I can't be more specific than this !
Muckin_Slusher
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You could explain why it cannot spool up the rope.
You could have specified as small/light/cheap as possible instead of giving a hard "1/2 ton max" spec.
So, why can it not spool up the rope?
Why doesn't the maasdam or drill winch work? (too expensive?)
What is the price range?
FYI you can get 1/4 ton lever hoists with 10 foot chains, and I think you can also order the chain if you needed longer.
Harrington sells a 1/4 ton with a 15 foot chain. Not cheap though. A small lever hoist might be just the ticket. I'm sure jet or even harbor freight has something comparable but cheaper. Those little ones can't weight more than about 5 lbs.
Miss the Pontiacs
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I kind of remember when installing, actually helping my Dad install barb wire years ago for cattle. It looked a bit but can not find the exact puller we used. Was similar to this:
Renegade1LI
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DGersic
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You ever tried to PUSH on a rope?
john.k
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The Indian rope trick.
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theoldwizard1
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I wish they made a light duty one, 1/2 ton is way more than enough !
Renegade1LI
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It's actually very light in weight, propabably won't be much lighter if it was 1/2 t.
garfieldzzz
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Is a Greifzug something considerable?
Not sure if there is something like this in the US.
Not sure if there is something like this in the US.