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Private Lugnutz

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Kennedy did not make their own locks.
I don't think many did. Not sure about Simonsen, but my Duplex boxes have Stanley hardware. I remember the first Langenau box I ever found, before I discovered that they made boxes for everyone (e.g., Blackhawk, Hinsdale, RAY, etc) in the early heyday, when I thought it was the name of another company making latches and locks. All I can say is I wish someone in my family had stock in Excelsior in those days. It might be the single most prolific marking in my collection.
 

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Don, I'd bet that was made for them stamped that way. I don't see many company's making their own locks, without also selling them themselves - tooling is just too expensive, not to mention plating facilities.
 
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Today's pick:



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Ought to be fun trying to find a key for that.
LOL I didn't even break a sweat for finding this key

Or this on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/186759645437?gQT=2
Or this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/3262685175...W5pAANU31pgl2KMm0Lz3suxwrvUjmlKjbwFfGLs&gQT=2
Or this https://safeandlockstore.com/keys-a...Ksg01pZp-95w9RaYUa1bjquHmkqugM1Itj67bkj_Cy_aU

http://islandtrunkshop.com/antique_vintage_flat_keys.html

That said he isn't the cheapest, but if all other methods fail.....
 

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Wow! I've been on the move since posting those pics.

The first Ebay key is on its way!

Thanks!
 
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jeffmoss26

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Today's pick:

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All wood with sheet metal cladding on the front panel and outside.

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Ought to be fun trying to find a key for that.

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The drawers are all sound, if a bit dirty. Green felt bottom liners all all intact and dirty.

The only ID on it is the lock/hasp.
Pretty sure a T46 luggage key would work. They are mostly universal. I will look around this weekend, I’m sure I have extras
 

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Yep. That's it! Right down to the 3-ply wood and corner protectors.

Now to clean it up a bit... not sure how much. The drawer faces appear to be oak and the pulls are solid brass.
You'd be surprised at what Dawn dish soap or murphy's oil soap will clean. Even tub o towels get used here frequently. to polish the brass I chucked a wood dowel in my lathe on slow speed, drilled a hole that the threads would bite into and a bit of Flitz polish on a rag did wonders today.
 

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Ought to be fun trying to find a key for that.
I know you have the key covered but that sure looks like an ordinary trunk hasp - like Jeff said, lugage...

It didn't occur to me that the box might be the same as the lock. I'll see what I can find based on that.

That was a surprise to me too. With all the drawers out, check inside the the case and under the drawers and on the bottom of the case as well. back then it seem like they were inventing "Easter eggs" for mfg markings at times... :wtf:

age-wise I'd say 20's-30's possibly wartime as they cheaped out on a lot of things, and pine clad in sheet metal would be very cheap.

Cool find though Timm!
 

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Today's pick:

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All wood with sheet metal cladding on the front panel and outside.

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Ought to be fun trying to find a key for that.



The drawers are all sound, if a bit dirty. Green felt bottom liners all all intact and dirty.

The only ID on it is the lock/hasp.
I think I might have a family member. This one is also metal clad wood, has the same style, but older lock, and different drawer trim. Lots of pix in this directory if you want to poke around.



This was my first tool chest (cabinet), and I still know nothing about it. I think I posted it in this forum somewhere, but no one identified it. Maybe you will be luckier.
 
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Getting a start on cleaning up the old SIPCO chest.

Putting my new vise to work:

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The cladding on the front panel was coming unclad on both sides at the bottom third. It's only held on by a few tiny brads and there is no evidence that any were ever used in this area. I used some contact adhesive to try to glue the cladding down.

The first drawer face cleaned:

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I'm spoiled by cleaning metal with chemicals and power. I keep having to restrain myself from reaching for the angle grinder and wire wheel. Instead... the dreaded elbow grease. I've just finished the small drawers and the first of the wide ones, and now it's lunchtime.
 

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Getting a start on cleaning up the old SIPCO chest.

Putting my new vise to work:

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The cladding on the front panel was coming unclad on both sides at the bottom third. It's only held on by a few tiny brads and there is no evidence that any were ever used in this area. I used some contact adhesive to try to glue the cladding down.

The first drawer face cleaned:

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I'm spoiled by cleaning metal with chemicals and power. I keep having to restrain myself from reaching for the angle grinder and wire wheel. Instead... the dreaded elbow grease. I've just finished the small drawers and the first of the wide ones, and now it's lunchtime.
What did you use for cleaning solution?. I have a filthy craftsman wooden tap and die set that needs cleaning.
 

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What did you use for cleaning solution?. I have a filthy craftsman wooden tap and die set that needs cleaning.
Murphy's. It's not called "Oil Soap" anymore, but it smells the same and still works.

And lots of elbow grease... I found that a tooth-brush style soft wire brush really speeds things up and the tip of my knife blade can be used to gently scrape hardened deposits off without damaging the patina.
 

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the tip of my knife blade can be used to gently scrape hardened deposits off without damaging the patina.

I have one pocket knife that has become my dedicated "scraper" for things like layered grease/oil/nicotine like that. Its dull as hell as the blade edges have become burnished by this use. I first used it on my big oak machinist's chest that lives on my inside workbench, but its so effective I never re-sharpened it. I use it so much for this use that my girls will ask to borrow the "scraper knife"

A progress pic on that box -I was gluing parts of it back together.:

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Similar Oak Pilliod box that got that treatment:

Pilliod Lumber co. - Oak box No 15.jpg

And both boxes on/near the work bench:

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I have one pocket knife that has become my dedicated "scraper" for things like layered grease/oil/nicotine like that. Its dull as hell as the blade edges have become burnished by this use. I first used it on my big oak machinist's chest that lives on my inside workbench, but its so effective I never re-sharpened it. I use it so much for this use that my girls will ask to borrow the "scraper knife"

A progress pic on that box -I was gluing parts of it back together.:

wood box in process sm.jpg


Similar Oak Pilliod box that got that treatment:

Pilliod Lumber co. - Oak box No 15.jpg

And both boxes on/near the work bench:

Bench boxes.jpg
Gawds, man! Put a collar on that lantern! This is a family site!

I'm in the process of gluing up right now, too. The drawer bottoms are dado'ed into the sides and front, but just tacked to the back. They're all open there so out comes the TiteBond....

Beautiful boxes!
 

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I have one pocket knife that has become my dedicated "scraper" for things like layered grease/oil/nicotine like that. Its dull as hell as the blade edges have become burnished by this use. I first used it on my big oak machinist's chest that lives on my inside workbench, but its so effective I never re-sharpened it. I use it so much for this use that my girls will ask to borrow the "scraper knife"

A progress pic on that box -I was gluing parts of it back together.:

wood box in process sm.jpg


Similar Oak Pilliod box that got that treatment:

Pilliod Lumber co. - Oak box No 15.jpg

And both boxes on/near the work bench:

Bench boxes.jpg
That sir is a beautiful box.
 

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I have one pocket knife that has become my dedicated "scraper" for things like layered grease/oil/nicotine like that. Its dull as hell as the blade edges have become burnished by this use. I first used it on my big oak machinist's chest that lives on my inside workbench, but its so effective I never re-sharpened it. I use it so much for this use that my girls will ask to borrow the "scraper knife"

A progress pic on that box -I was gluing parts of it back together.:

wood box in process sm.jpg


Similar Oak Pilliod box that got that treatment:

Pilliod Lumber co. - Oak box No 15.jpg

And both boxes on/near the work bench:

Bench boxes.jpg
while shopping on the bay for a lock for the 41B . It looks like it might fit your Pilliod. https://www.ebay.com/itm/3264732217...uid=uL822xmETtG&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
 

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I found this today
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It is from '62, but if this is a repaint, it is a damn good job. I cannot find a trace of red anywhere, and the model number is a little on the strange side to me
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XPL 996-4 is what it says, along with the normal info. I know I have see one of these before, but it was mislabeled as a KRA-65 of some sort. Which this isn't. So, I am not sure what this is. I cannot find it in the '62 catalog, but that doesn't mean anything.
 

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The drawers are as done as they're gonna be:

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A goodly scrub with Murphy's and elbow grease--plus some scraping for nasty globs and the requisite white paint drips--a light coat of thinned BLO and a wiped finish of satin poly. I polished the pulls using a dowel in the DP, as someone suggested above.

The light in that part of the shop *****, but they sure don't look like Outlaw's above--they've had ca. 80 years of use by a by a mechanic with dirty, oily hands and I want to reflect that--just not solid black anymore.

The case got its first coat of Hammered Copper on all the parts that had been brass-plated--but were now red oxide finish. I spent about an hour getting the rust and old paint prepped. Tomorrow, I'll mask the trim pieces and start in on the Hammered Black finish.

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I just shot a second coat of the HC on the trim--I think it's good. With the Hammered finish paints, I'm finding that a lot of very thin coats doesn't give the desired effect--instead, a few coats as heavy as possible without running is the way to go. It's kind of walking a razor's edge....

I'm leaving the inner edge of the front and the entire bottom original.

You know all the cool stuff you find in and under the drawers in an old cabinet like this?

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Not this one--it's been pretty well cleaned out. A small Woodruff key, some sort of adjusting tool or shim, a carbide chip for a tool, and a small socket-head screw.
 
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alinc100

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I found this today
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54462772174_89841dc69d_b.jpg
It is from '62, but if this is a repaint, it is a damn good job. I cannot find a trace of red anywhere, and the model number is a little on the strange side to me
54462840513_f815d1c4d4_b.jpg
XPL 996-4 is what it says, along with the normal info. I know I have see one of these before, but it was mislabeled as a KRA-65 of some sort. Which this isn't. So, I am not sure what this is. I cannot find it in the '62 catalog, but that doesn't mean anything.
That looks like a very cool box. First bit of research led me here: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/estate-haul-w-snap-on-xpl-996-4-box.107079/

 
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