I don't think many did. Not sure about Simonsen, but my Duplex boxes have Stanley hardware. I remember the first Langenau box I ever found, before I discovered that they made boxes for everyone (e.g., Blackhawk, Hinsdale, RAY, etc) in the early heyday, when I thought it was the name of another company making latches and locks. All I can say is I wish someone in my family had stock in Excelsior in those days. It might be the single most prolific marking in my collection.Kennedy did not make their own locks.
It looks like brass hardware, front and top,
Good idea. Won't stick, so I'd guess it's brass.Brass or brass plated, looks worn? I'd use a small, fairly weak magnet to test to see it its an immediate stick, or weak from the box metal.
LOL I didn't even break a sweat for finding this key
Wow! I've been on the move since posting those pics.LOL I didn't even break a sweat for finding this key
Or this on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/186759645437?gQT=2
Or this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/3262685175...W5pAANU31pgl2KMm0Lz3suxwrvUjmlKjbwFfGLs&gQT=2
Or this https://safeandlockstore.com/keys-a...Ksg01pZp-95w9RaYUa1bjquHmkqugM1Itj67bkj_Cy_aU
http://islandtrunkshop.com/antique_vintage_flat_keys.html
That said he isn't the cheapest, but if all other methods fail.....
I still don't know who made it.....Wow! I've been on the move since posting those pics.
The first Ebay key is on it's way!
Thanks!
Pretty sure a T46 luggage key would work. They are mostly universal. I will look around this weekend, I’m sure I have extras
I think you have it!This looks like a newer version with a different drawer layout https://www.ebay.com/itm/3359053168...gg_eExeBMGdiHCkH6Zyanoknd_RJRoATz34v1nE&gQT=1
Yep. That's it! Right down to the 3-ply wood and corner protectors.This is pretty close, scroll to bottom of page: https://sites.google.com/site/theguideforwoodmachinistchests/pg-160-schartow-iron-prod-s-co
You'd be surprised at what Dawn dish soap or murphy's oil soap will clean. Even tub o towels get used here frequently. to polish the brass I chucked a wood dowel in my lathe on slow speed, drilled a hole that the threads would bite into and a bit of Flitz polish on a rag did wonders today.Yep. That's it! Right down to the 3-ply wood and corner protectors.
Now to clean it up a bit... not sure how much. The drawer faces appear to be oak and the pulls are solid brass.
I know you have the key covered but that sure looks like an ordinary trunk hasp - like Jeff said, lugage...Ought to be fun trying to find a key for that.
It didn't occur to me that the box might be the same as the lock. I'll see what I can find based on that.
I use Murphy's LAW a lot!I use Murphy's a lot...
I think I might have a family member. This one is also metal clad wood, has the same style, but older lock, and different drawer trim. Lots of pix in this directory if you want to poke around.


What did you use for cleaning solution?. I have a filthy craftsman wooden tap and die set that needs cleaning.Getting a start on cleaning up the old SIPCO chest.
Putting my new vise to work:
The cladding on the front panel was coming unclad on both sides at the bottom third. It's only held on by a few tiny brads and there is no evidence that any were ever used in this area. I used some contact adhesive to try to glue the cladding down.
The first drawer face cleaned:
I'm spoiled by cleaning metal with chemicals and power. I keep having to restrain myself from reaching for the angle grinder and wire wheel. Instead... the dreaded elbow grease. I've just finished the small drawers and the first of the wide ones, and now it's lunchtime.
Murphy's. It's not called "Oil Soap" anymore, but it smells the same and still works.What did you use for cleaning solution?. I have a filthy craftsman wooden tap and die set that needs cleaning.
the tip of my knife blade can be used to gently scrape hardened deposits off without damaging the patina.



Gawds, man! Put a collar on that lantern! This is a family site!I have one pocket knife that has become my dedicated "scraper" for things like layered grease/oil/nicotine like that. Its dull as hell as the blade edges have become burnished by this use. I first used it on my big oak machinist's chest that lives on my inside workbench, but its so effective I never re-sharpened it. I use it so much for this use that my girls will ask to borrow the "scraper knife"
A progress pic on that box -I was gluing parts of it back together.:
Similar Oak Pilliod box that got that treatment:
And both boxes on/near the work bench:
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That sir is a beautiful box.I have one pocket knife that has become my dedicated "scraper" for things like layered grease/oil/nicotine like that. Its dull as hell as the blade edges have become burnished by this use. I first used it on my big oak machinist's chest that lives on my inside workbench, but its so effective I never re-sharpened it. I use it so much for this use that my girls will ask to borrow the "scraper knife"
A progress pic on that box -I was gluing parts of it back together.:
Similar Oak Pilliod box that got that treatment:
And both boxes on/near the work bench:
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Beautiful boxes!
That sir is a beautiful box.
while shopping on the bay for a lock for the 41B . It looks like it might fit your Pilliod. https://www.ebay.com/itm/3264732217...uid=uL822xmETtG&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPYI have one pocket knife that has become my dedicated "scraper" for things like layered grease/oil/nicotine like that. Its dull as hell as the blade edges have become burnished by this use. I first used it on my big oak machinist's chest that lives on my inside workbench, but its so effective I never re-sharpened it. I use it so much for this use that my girls will ask to borrow the "scraper knife"
A progress pic on that box -I was gluing parts of it back together.:
Similar Oak Pilliod box that got that treatment:
And both boxes on/near the work bench:
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That looks like a very cool box. First bit of research led me here: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/estate-haul-w-snap-on-xpl-996-4-box.107079/I found this today
It is from '62, but if this is a repaint, it is a damn good job. I cannot find a trace of red anywhere, and the model number is a little on the strange side to me
XPL 996-4 is what it says, along with the normal info. I know I have see one of these before, but it was mislabeled as a KRA-65 of some sort. Which this isn't. So, I am not sure what this is. I cannot find it in the '62 catalog, but that doesn't mean anything.