ScepterToad
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Looks like another great trip in the books Mike!
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Thanks Keith, yeah, it was nice. Weather was nice, but dry. Last year was much warmer and it was triple digits when we left home so the upper 70's/low 80's were welcomed. Overnight low's were in the upper 40's/low 50's so a bit chilly, but sitting around the fire at night was a perfect way to end each day. Met some nice people as well and only a few items to address on the Jeep, but it ran flawlessly. Even the coach handled the high temps and mountain passes great.
It's great to get away, but I love being home as well. Got to sit on the deck and enjoy my morning coffee yesterday and just admired our view and thought about how blessed the wife and I are.
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I have a dislike for most of those yuppie touristy towns. Too many fake ***** and real assholes for my taste.
Much like Park City here in Utah, I avoid it like the plague. I prefer small towns where people are real and genuine salt of the earth to those fake *** pretentious ones.
Thanks again for sharing your trips Mike, I luv hearing about them.
We just got back from a 2 weeker doing the loop up thru SLC and into Yellowstone then to Rushmore then down thru CO and back to green river. We got there kinda late on Thursday and the only two joints open to eat at were Mexican food. The first place had one car in front and we ended up at Tacos La Pasadita (with 3 cars in front
)Man what a surprise that turned out to be. The food was great. But I was wondering is what place did you guys eat at, we’ll make that happen the next time we’re there.
We just got back from a 2 weeker doing the loop up thru SLC and into Yellowstone then to Rushmore then down thru CO and back to green river. We got there kinda late on Thursday and the only two joints open to eat at were Mexican food. The first place had one car in front and we ended up at Tacos La Pasadita (with 3 cars in front
)Man what a surprise that turned out to be. The food was great. But I was wondering is what place did you guys eat at, we’ll make that happen the next time we’re there.
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Thanks again for sharing your trips Mike, I luv hearing about them.
We just got back from a 2 weeker doing the loop up thru SLC and into Yellowstone then to Rushmore then down thru CO and back to green river. We got there kinda late on Thursday and the only two joints open to eat at were Mexican food. The first place had one car in front and we ended up at Tacos La Pasadita (with 3 cars in front
Thanks Cam.
If you're in Green River next time, give Ray's Tavern a try. It's a small hole in the wall joint, but the food is amazing. They have great burgers and their fries must be cooked using crack,
also one of the best steaks I've eaten. The Tamerisk restaurant is also quite good, right next to the KOA campground. Many times we'll walk there for breakfast before departing.As for Mexican Food, Tacos La Pasadita is about as good as it gets. Although it's a food truck, the food is amazing and really the only Mexican place we'll eat at in the area. The other one isn't all that good, tried it once and won't go there again.
I can see and appreciate that. My wife and I have skied Telluride the past two winters and it was honestly surprising to me how not pretentious the vibe is there in the winter....that being said, I know that many towns are very different in the summer vs winter.
You now have me very curious about any opinions on Crested Butte? We are heading there this winter to ski.
Always great seeing your recaps from your trip, I need to show my wife your moose spotting(s), she is in love with moose!
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Mike, living vicariously through your trips and images. Love traveling the west though haven't done the trails and off roading. Thanks for the trip report!
Don't hold back, as for Telluride we are seeing the same/similar influences here within the Amish communities, of all places. The solid old places giving way to the fake monied folks....Life goes on.
Don't hold back, as for Telluride we are seeing the same/similar influences here within the Amish communities, of all places. The solid old places giving way to the fake monied folks....Life goes on.
Boosted1
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Nice trip. thanks for sharing the pics and story.
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Sorry guys, I hope I didn't offend, I'm just quite opinionated and more so lately. Guess I'm becoming one of those older guys who just say what I think and PC be damned.
Mike, I can't speak to Crested Butte as I have never been there. But, I did forget to add Jackson Hole and Bozeman, MT to my list of places I like to avoid or drive through as quickly as possible without stopping. Jackson Hole is right up there at the top of the list with Telluride, CO and Park City, UT. To be honest, Sedona, AZ wasn't quite as pretentious as I expected when we visited there last year. I whole-heartedly expexted it to make the list, but the short few days we were there I didn't get that impression, at least not in the areas nor restaurants that we visited.
Sorry to hear about the influences in your neck of the woods Joel. You can put me down for places like Worland, Thayne, Afton and Rawlins, WY, Bicknell, Kanab and Torrey, UT, Libby, MT and Ouray, CO. Those are places I can walk into a small hometown cafe and sit and converse with people about real life and get honest and experienced answers back without someone trying to put on airs. Good down-to-earth hard working and family people just trying to get through life.
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Last night after work I began the deep cleaning of the Jeep. Fortunately, I didn't have much in the form of mud to have to clean off, just dirt and dust everywhere.
Back from the car wash and after running a chamois over the exterior. I could then turn my attention to the engine bay and interior.
Engine bay faired pretty well. I led the entire trip so I was out of the dust and only had a little dust when experiencing oncoming traffic. The engine bay cleaned up pretty quick with a couple blasts of compressed air and a wipe with a wet towel over the engine cover, core support and other plastic and rubber components.
Then the interior wipe down and cleaning commenced.
With the deep clean addressed, it was time to rack the Jeep and take a look at my two small issues that I noted during the trip.
This one has been bugging me. This is the third oil pressure sending unit I have installed since the engine swap, 6 years and 75k miles ago. When I built my A-pillar gauge layout and installed an oil pressure gauge/sending unit on the OEM engine, it lasted the full 8 years and 92k miles, but I have gone through multiple sending units since installing the 6.2 liter LS engine. I know they sit up between the exhaust manifold and engine block but during this trip I saw exactly where the failure point or timing occurred.
After looking through my notes, I detected a pattern that I guess I really didn't notice previously. When looking through the dates and mileage I saw that I was replacing the Auto Meter sending units closely after each Ouray trip a couple years apart. This year I noted a small oil drip, so I decided to be proactive and replace it just before our trip. I also redid the wiring to the sending unit and wrapped it with some heat barrier to aid in protecting the wire for the sending unit as well as my transmission sending unit signal wire.
On day #2 when we were climbing a high pass and engine coolant temps neared the 226-228 degree range I noticed that my oil pressure gauge pegged high. Upon reaching the summit I crawled under the Jeep and reached up and noted that the stud protruding from the sending unit was loose and flopping around. I centered it and the gauge read accurately. Upon returning to camp and after dinner and allowing the Jeep to cool down, I crawled back under to do a more thorough inspection and that's when I noticed that the stud didn't merely come loose like I had originally thought, the plastic internal components holding the stud had actually melted which allowed the stud to lean against the metal case of the sending unit and therefore short to ground ******* the gauge high.
When the components had cooled and I had centered the stud, it actually held there relatively firmly in place. The next day we climbed Black Bear and as soon as my engine coolant temp reached right around that same 226-228 degree mark, my oil pressure gauge pegged high again. There it is. The heat trapped between the block and exhaust manifold at that point must just be enough that the plastic inside the sending unit gets molten and allows the stud to move and contact the case of the sending unit. Interesting.
So I have ordered yet another sending unit, this time I am going to use a Stewart Warner as they operate on the same 33 ohm to 240 ohm range but I have used Stewart Warner components in the past with excellent results so I thought I'd give one of theirs a try. I also ordered an adapter that is angle slightly different along with a street elbow to see if I can keep the sending unit a bit lower and away from the heat a bit. Lastly, I ordered a piece of "form-a-barrier" from DEI that I am going to wrap the sending unit with to protect it. That "should" correct this issue going forward.
Here you can see how offset the stud is coming out of the sending unit and the plastic between the stud and case is nearly completely absent yet the terminal ring is still tight on the stud.
The next small item I noted was I had a drip on my tie rod that I noticed when airing up and reconnecting my swaybar on the last day. I have a power steering hose beginning to weep a bit at the crimped connection so that will need to be addressed while it's in the shop.
Thanks for looking.
Back from the car wash and after running a chamois over the exterior. I could then turn my attention to the engine bay and interior.
Engine bay faired pretty well. I led the entire trip so I was out of the dust and only had a little dust when experiencing oncoming traffic. The engine bay cleaned up pretty quick with a couple blasts of compressed air and a wipe with a wet towel over the engine cover, core support and other plastic and rubber components.
Then the interior wipe down and cleaning commenced.
With the deep clean addressed, it was time to rack the Jeep and take a look at my two small issues that I noted during the trip.
This one has been bugging me. This is the third oil pressure sending unit I have installed since the engine swap, 6 years and 75k miles ago. When I built my A-pillar gauge layout and installed an oil pressure gauge/sending unit on the OEM engine, it lasted the full 8 years and 92k miles, but I have gone through multiple sending units since installing the 6.2 liter LS engine. I know they sit up between the exhaust manifold and engine block but during this trip I saw exactly where the failure point or timing occurred.
After looking through my notes, I detected a pattern that I guess I really didn't notice previously. When looking through the dates and mileage I saw that I was replacing the Auto Meter sending units closely after each Ouray trip a couple years apart. This year I noted a small oil drip, so I decided to be proactive and replace it just before our trip. I also redid the wiring to the sending unit and wrapped it with some heat barrier to aid in protecting the wire for the sending unit as well as my transmission sending unit signal wire.
On day #2 when we were climbing a high pass and engine coolant temps neared the 226-228 degree range I noticed that my oil pressure gauge pegged high. Upon reaching the summit I crawled under the Jeep and reached up and noted that the stud protruding from the sending unit was loose and flopping around. I centered it and the gauge read accurately. Upon returning to camp and after dinner and allowing the Jeep to cool down, I crawled back under to do a more thorough inspection and that's when I noticed that the stud didn't merely come loose like I had originally thought, the plastic internal components holding the stud had actually melted which allowed the stud to lean against the metal case of the sending unit and therefore short to ground ******* the gauge high.
When the components had cooled and I had centered the stud, it actually held there relatively firmly in place. The next day we climbed Black Bear and as soon as my engine coolant temp reached right around that same 226-228 degree mark, my oil pressure gauge pegged high again. There it is. The heat trapped between the block and exhaust manifold at that point must just be enough that the plastic inside the sending unit gets molten and allows the stud to move and contact the case of the sending unit. Interesting.
So I have ordered yet another sending unit, this time I am going to use a Stewart Warner as they operate on the same 33 ohm to 240 ohm range but I have used Stewart Warner components in the past with excellent results so I thought I'd give one of theirs a try. I also ordered an adapter that is angle slightly different along with a street elbow to see if I can keep the sending unit a bit lower and away from the heat a bit. Lastly, I ordered a piece of "form-a-barrier" from DEI that I am going to wrap the sending unit with to protect it. That "should" correct this issue going forward.
Here you can see how offset the stud is coming out of the sending unit and the plastic between the stud and case is nearly completely absent yet the terminal ring is still tight on the stud.
The next small item I noted was I had a drip on my tie rod that I noticed when airing up and reconnecting my swaybar on the last day. I have a power steering hose beginning to weep a bit at the crimped connection so that will need to be addressed while it's in the shop.
Thanks for looking.
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zmotorsports
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After finishing up working on the Jeep and the wife not home from work yet, I unboxed and set up my two new grease guns.
I have multiple grease guns each with different greases hanging on my wall, but the two greases I use the most I thought I would get me a couple of pneumatic guns to be more proficient. I am used to pneumatic grease guns and really liked using them at work so when I got the 20% coupon code from Zoro the other day I thought I'd pull the trigger.
The Moly grease gun clearly labeled.
And the Multiplex gun clearly labeled.
Air fittings installed, hoses connected, filled, bled and ready to use.
Thanks for looking.
I have multiple grease guns each with different greases hanging on my wall, but the two greases I use the most I thought I would get me a couple of pneumatic guns to be more proficient. I am used to pneumatic grease guns and really liked using them at work so when I got the 20% coupon code from Zoro the other day I thought I'd pull the trigger.
The Moly grease gun clearly labeled.
And the Multiplex gun clearly labeled.
Air fittings installed, hoses connected, filled, bled and ready to use.
Thanks for looking.
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Thank you. I just wish I would have figured it out sooner. I guess the planets had to align just right for me to see the pattern.
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With my wife still not home from work yet, I figured I would do a little work in the yard, yep, more sprinkler work.
While the couple of dry areas that were in the backyard a couple of weeks ago have slowly shrunk due to making some height adjustments to multiple sprinklers a couple of weeks ago, I still have one dry spot that is not responding as well as I would like so I tackled a couple more rotary heads and about 4 pop-ups last night.
Then once I got them backfilled and compacted, I made a few small "tweaks" to the patterns and sat back and enjoyed the view for a few minutes before the wife arrived home.
Standing there looking over the yard I thought to myself there is just no feeling like being home. I don't know how our RV'ing group does it where most are or have been full-timers with no stick & brick to call home. Many sold their homes when they retired and set out in their coaches to travel the country. Granted they have seen some great places and had some great experiences, but there is no way I could sell my home and live full-time in our coach. While I love to travel with the wife in our coach and seeing this great country one town at a time, there is just something about being home. I love going away for a short time period, but there is no replacement for returning home and enjoying our little piece of Heaven on Earth. I can only imagine what retirement will feel like when I get to enjoy this all day long. Gotta keep the lawn nice and green for the grandkids to enjoy.
While the couple of dry areas that were in the backyard a couple of weeks ago have slowly shrunk due to making some height adjustments to multiple sprinklers a couple of weeks ago, I still have one dry spot that is not responding as well as I would like so I tackled a couple more rotary heads and about 4 pop-ups last night.
Then once I got them backfilled and compacted, I made a few small "tweaks" to the patterns and sat back and enjoyed the view for a few minutes before the wife arrived home.
Standing there looking over the yard I thought to myself there is just no feeling like being home. I don't know how our RV'ing group does it where most are or have been full-timers with no stick & brick to call home. Many sold their homes when they retired and set out in their coaches to travel the country. Granted they have seen some great places and had some great experiences, but there is no way I could sell my home and live full-time in our coach. While I love to travel with the wife in our coach and seeing this great country one town at a time, there is just something about being home. I love going away for a short time period, but there is no replacement for returning home and enjoying our little piece of Heaven on Earth. I can only imagine what retirement will feel like when I get to enjoy this all day long. Gotta keep the lawn nice and green for the grandkids to enjoy.
WoodsTruck
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Would there be clearance issues if the oil pressure housing was rotated 180°, if at all possible, to get the sensor out of the oven?
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Not exactly. It would be right at the oil filter and the bolt pattern on the cast OEM adapter isn't symmetrical. Plus, I don't know how much I trust the aluminum casting to support the sending unit along with a street elbow. I ordered a billet adapter that should be much stronger and with a street elbow I should be able to relocate it down and away from the heat.
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I'd never question Mike on anything mechanical, but in our race car there is a reason we use a mechanical oil pressure gauge. We can't afford to have the gauge read incorrectly due to a malfunction with the sending unit, which has happened with our oil temp sending unit. I know a lot of folks are concerned about having 'hot oil in the cabin', but we use an stainless braided AN line which is rated for way more than the 80 PSI our oil pump produces.
Sorry guys, I hope I didn't offend, I'm just quite opinionated and more so lately. Guess I'm becoming one of those older guys who just say what I think and PC be damned.
Mike, I can't speak to Crested Butte as I have never been there. But, I did forget to add Jackson Hole and Bozeman, MT to my list of places I like to avoid or drive through as quickly as possible without stopping. Jackson Hole is right up there at the top of the list with Telluride, CO and Park City, UT. To be honest, Sedona, AZ wasn't quite as pretentious as I expected when we visited there last year. I whole-heartedly expexted it to make the list, but the short few days we were there I didn't get that impression, at least not in the areas nor restaurants that we visited.
No offence taken at all, and your comment about JH completely aligns with the one time I was there in the summer, VERY different than winter, which I feel like could be very common for a lot of places that double as summer and winter destinations. Its been years since I skied in the Park City area, but it was certainly not the laid back ski town vibe for sure, lots of money and people want you to know about it lol
Mike, I give you an Amen to that....
ntsqd
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I've been known to remote mount oil pressure senders on small block Fords because I do not trust the OEM extension fitting to carry more than just the OEM sender. Usually I'm needing to add an oil pressure control switch for an electric fuel pump and adding it's mass onto the end of that extension seems like asking for trouble. As a bonus, remote mounting them gains more clearance around the oil filter.
As I prepare for my upcoming LM7 swap that oil pressure transducer mounting adapter plate is one of the things that I've pondered. No need to add the oil pressure fuel pump control switch, but I've pondered if the exhaust is going to end up close to it.
As I prepare for my upcoming LM7 swap that oil pressure transducer mounting adapter plate is one of the things that I've pondered. No need to add the oil pressure fuel pump control switch, but I've pondered if the exhaust is going to end up close to it.
OutlawDrifter
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Why not run one in the factory position on top of the block in the back? I always figured it gave a better reading of pressure in the upper valve train.
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Thanks Vincent. I also ran mechanical in our race applications, but for most daily driver needs I have actually had good results with electrical sending, until this specific application anyways, and that's just been since the LS swap. I briefly considered a flexible stainless braided line and remote mounting the sending unit like I have done in a few boat applications. However, now that I have a firm grasp on the problem I feel I have a solid solution with the mounting and heat barrier, so we'll give that a go.
Also forgot to mention Vincent, that this is not my only oil pressure sending unit like would be in a race application. I am using the OEM sending unit at the top behind the intake manifold so I can still monitor oil pressure through my Aeroforce gauge on my dash if needs be. The analog gauge on my A-pillar is just my preferred one because I can see the needle at a glance, along with volts and transmission temp. Damn Chrysler for deleting gauges from the cluster. Who thought that was a good idea, but then again, I don't think I'm the demographic the manufacturers are aiming at.
ntsqd
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Haven't really looked it all over, didn't know that was there.
Two schools of thought about pressure transducers; The closer to the pump it is the better it sees all of the pressure drops. The closer to any particular oil consumer the better it sees the pressure supplied to that specific consumer. Placement depends on what you're needing to know.
PugetDude
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Jackson was a great little town in the 60's and early 70's...then came the millionaires... Who were subsequently forced out by the billionaires...
.Absolutely! Teton County, does not reflect Wyoming. But it was a hoot in the late 70's!Jackson was a great little town in the 60's and early 70's...then came the millionaires... Who were subsequently forced out by the billionaires...
PugetDude
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Yes it was...
Just missing a Camel unfiltered, and he's the real deal!Well looky you, you studly cow poker.
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That picture epitomizes Wyoming, where the men are men and the sheep are nervous...
Yes, especially around around PugetDude!That picture epitomizes Wyoming, where the men are men and the sheep are nervous...
SilverJimmy
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Just make sure you guys don’t end up here!
PugetDude
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Well looky you, you studly cow poker.
That picture epitomizes Wyoming, where the men are men and the sheep are nervous...
I will have you know that I checked my zipper for fleece before that photo was taken.
Bigblue&Goldie
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In collge we used to get Telluride season passes. We'd load up the cars and reserve beds at a hostel for a few bucks a night. Living on pizza and beer, we had a blast! Unfortunately, developers made the town "better" and they tore down the hostel. Another badass memory kids these days won't ever get to have.....
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This thread is one of the highlights of this site.
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Didn't get any work completed in the shop last night as I mowed the lawns. Then just as I was ready to "fluff" my grass, the neighbor came over to talk. I don't get people. He wanted to know if I would have a problem with him putting up an industrial style of awning or cover to put over the motorhome he is looking to purchase. I don't think he appreciated my stance because I explained that the CC&R's clearly state the criteria for what any accessory building OR structure must meet, and neither an awning nor pole building is acceptable in our subdivision as per the CC&R's. He said they talked with the city planning commission and was told that they could circumvent the CC&R requirements IF the neighbors were ok with it. I simply told him the CC&R's needed to be followed just like I had to follow them.
What kills me is I remember the first day we looked at this house in the neighborhood and ran into these particular neighbors. Our realtor friend and I saw there was a footing, foundation and floor for an accessory building next to the properly line of the property we were looking to buy. Seeing as how he and his dad already had the beginnings of a detached garage, we had asked if they knew anything about the criteria for building such a detached garage and they gave us the whole CC&R lecture. Our realtor friend tried to convince me to look elsewhere so we could construct a pole building, but the wife and I really liked this area. The next day I went to the county to pull the CC&R's to read them for myself. They are very specific in what is required, which is one of the reasons we liked this neighborhood and especially the house and property. There was no HOA to contend with, however, the CC&R criteria is very specific and quite detailed in what is acceptable and what is not, right down to the construction and finish work on any accessory building. Due to what we had to deal with in our last neighborhood I was very impressed and drawn to the neighborhood specifically because of how detailed and explicit the CC&R's were. We had to change our plans somewhat from of a pole building which was my first thought when looking to move, merely to keep costs down on the shop. However, when I saw that they were not allowed, the wife stepped in and convinced me that we should look at what the cost would be to build a footing, foundation, stick and brick shop rather than a pole building because she liked the neighborhood and didn't want a pole building anyways. After going back and forth with my contractor and negotiating a price, we made the offer on the house, and the rest is history. Much of our decision was based on the fact of how specific the guidelines were and how we wouldn't end up in a **** show like the last neighborhood where everyone was just doing whatever they wanted.
I even remember the day we broke ground on the shop, January 31st, 2017. I had three neighbors, INCLUDING the one who came over last night, and they all were very explicit in explaining that the subdivision had very specific CC&R's that must be adhered to. I reassured them that I had a copy of the CC&R's from the county, had read them and memorized them front to back and sideways before buying the property so everything would be done to the letter.
Now 8 years later one of those same neighbors wants to piss backwards because I think he realized what it will cost to build something following the CC&R's. What hypocrites. I stood my ground and said I would not sign off on it. Not because I was trying to be a jerk, but because I completely understood the reasons why the developer wrote such detailed CC&R's, to preserve property values and maintain the standards of the neighborhood. I also want to be able to hand our property down to my son and his family and don't want it going the way of the last neighborhood so yes, I will continue to stand my ground. Plus, it cost me over $30k more to build what I have just to be in compliance and everyone else should be held to the same standards. I'm really not trying to be a jerk over this, but damn, it pissed me off that he thought I would be ok with him doing whatever in the hell he wanted yet he made certain I was held me to the criteria laid out in the CC&R's. I also explained that these particular CC&R's are EXACTLY why we bought here, because they preserve the standards of the neighborhood long term.
What kills me is I remember the first day we looked at this house in the neighborhood and ran into these particular neighbors. Our realtor friend and I saw there was a footing, foundation and floor for an accessory building next to the properly line of the property we were looking to buy. Seeing as how he and his dad already had the beginnings of a detached garage, we had asked if they knew anything about the criteria for building such a detached garage and they gave us the whole CC&R lecture. Our realtor friend tried to convince me to look elsewhere so we could construct a pole building, but the wife and I really liked this area. The next day I went to the county to pull the CC&R's to read them for myself. They are very specific in what is required, which is one of the reasons we liked this neighborhood and especially the house and property. There was no HOA to contend with, however, the CC&R criteria is very specific and quite detailed in what is acceptable and what is not, right down to the construction and finish work on any accessory building. Due to what we had to deal with in our last neighborhood I was very impressed and drawn to the neighborhood specifically because of how detailed and explicit the CC&R's were. We had to change our plans somewhat from of a pole building which was my first thought when looking to move, merely to keep costs down on the shop. However, when I saw that they were not allowed, the wife stepped in and convinced me that we should look at what the cost would be to build a footing, foundation, stick and brick shop rather than a pole building because she liked the neighborhood and didn't want a pole building anyways. After going back and forth with my contractor and negotiating a price, we made the offer on the house, and the rest is history. Much of our decision was based on the fact of how specific the guidelines were and how we wouldn't end up in a **** show like the last neighborhood where everyone was just doing whatever they wanted.
I even remember the day we broke ground on the shop, January 31st, 2017. I had three neighbors, INCLUDING the one who came over last night, and they all were very explicit in explaining that the subdivision had very specific CC&R's that must be adhered to. I reassured them that I had a copy of the CC&R's from the county, had read them and memorized them front to back and sideways before buying the property so everything would be done to the letter.
Now 8 years later one of those same neighbors wants to piss backwards because I think he realized what it will cost to build something following the CC&R's. What hypocrites. I stood my ground and said I would not sign off on it. Not because I was trying to be a jerk, but because I completely understood the reasons why the developer wrote such detailed CC&R's, to preserve property values and maintain the standards of the neighborhood. I also want to be able to hand our property down to my son and his family and don't want it going the way of the last neighborhood so yes, I will continue to stand my ground. Plus, it cost me over $30k more to build what I have just to be in compliance and everyone else should be held to the same standards. I'm really not trying to be a jerk over this, but damn, it pissed me off that he thought I would be ok with him doing whatever in the hell he wanted yet he made certain I was held me to the criteria laid out in the CC&R's. I also explained that these particular CC&R's are EXACTLY why we bought here, because they preserve the standards of the neighborhood long term.
I don't blame you ONE BIT on taking that stance Mike, I'd be equally irritated and pissed that a neighbor that lectured "the new guy" when you were moving in and now that you likely have the best looking property in the neighborhood they want you to sign off on some halfa$$ed solution.
Good on you for not backing down, he could have built years ago, when it may have been cheaper looking in the rear view, but gotta deal with what you have in front of you at the time.
OutlawDrifter
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"Good for thee, not for me"
The neighbor to the North of me has sold his cattle and is renting the pasture to the new owner of the herd. They have decided to redo the fence all around the property and remove some trees. Well the last 100yrds or so of trees that they removed provide us with a good windbreak and some shade in the warmer months. He wanted to pull all the trees on the border between our properties, but when I showed him the property lines he respected them after realizing they are "my" trees. Bummer to lose the trees they pulled, but I understand why they did it.
I explained to them that where I'm from in Nebraska, it's illegal to remove trees and you need a letter signed from the governor in order to do so ...he believed me for a little bit.
The neighbor to the North of me has sold his cattle and is renting the pasture to the new owner of the herd. They have decided to redo the fence all around the property and remove some trees. Well the last 100yrds or so of trees that they removed provide us with a good windbreak and some shade in the warmer months. He wanted to pull all the trees on the border between our properties, but when I showed him the property lines he respected them after realizing they are "my" trees. Bummer to lose the trees they pulled, but I understand why they did it.
I explained to them that where I'm from in Nebraska, it's illegal to remove trees and you need a letter signed from the governor in order to do so
...he believed me for a little bit.