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Dh3256

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Rinnai has a "top secret" tech manual that I can't get my grubby little hands on with things like ladder logic diagrams and sensor test readings, so my only option is to just start swapping them.
What is the model of the units and do you have any more details on the manual you are looking for? I will try to help, might be able to get it for you, but more specific information would be helpful.

Another option would be to call Rinnai tech support, I have been surprised at how helpful they have been when I have needed to call. Might help to call from "Beerhippie contracting" or similar, they may be more willing to help a tech than consumer and don't verify company information for tech calls.
 

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I know I’m probably asking a stupid question, because you know engines, but that’s not an interference engine is it? Hate to see you buy a bunch of parts if there’s bent valves and a hole in a piston.

Conflicting info online. Supposedly it's interference.........BUT, in the forums many report nothing in theirs was damaged. Also found a post by a mechanic that said he'd done several and they were fine.
 

Outlawmws

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I know for the villager/Quest, Nissan made the Quests with Conflicting info online. Supposedly it's interference.........BUT, in the forums many report nothing in theirs was damaged. Also found a post by a mechanic that said he'd done several and they were fine.

I know for the Villager/Quests Nissan made the Quests with interference engines, but Ford insisted on non-interference for the Mercury Villager, so those were not a problem - why Nissan would make them both ways is a mystery wrapped in an enigma...
 

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What is the model of the units and do you have any more details on the manual you are looking for? I will try to help, might be able to get it for you, but more specific information would be helpful.

Another option would be to call Rinnai tech support, I have been surprised at how helpful they have been when I have needed to call. Might help to call from "Beerhippie contracting" or similar, they may be more willing to help a tech than consumer and don't verify company information for tech calls.
Thanks!

We use the C199IN--also have one CU199, which is a different critter and just about useless for what we do. The CU199 can't handle intake water temps above 130F, while the C199s were formerly perfectly good with intake temps of 180F.

As for the tech support, the local guy--local as in five hours away--isn't really helpful. We are definitely sing these "off-label" as high temp recirculating heaters.

The suggestion above to check the gas valve makes good sense to me. It's pretty much the only thing I've never replaced.
 

niget2002

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3d printed a jig for drilling 12mm holes every 3 inches into some J channel for the house LEDs.

Didn't fully like how the holes lined up, so I'm printing a new version now. The black 'pin' registers the new hole with respect to the last one. Endstop on the drill press makes sure the hole size repeats correctly.

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cody1325

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Got the new vented windshield on the plow/all around log bustin' bad *** forestry vehicle. I need a sunny day to sit it outside for a few hours so I can adjust the gasket and get it all soft so I can clamp it down and put the mirrors back on. IMG_4865.jpeg

Good to know about fitting those windshields.

I'm removing the scratched-up vinyl cab remnants (we almost never ran it with the doors) off the RTV-900 for something similar. You can't see out it at all, and I've both ran into things and gotten stuck because of it. Also putting some better mirrors--the old DIY driver's side mirror is horribly inadequate. There are loads of cheap universal side by side mirrors on the market--and I'm going to check by a local ATV dealer later this week since I'm by there.
 

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Spent most of Sunday helping my son install a manual six speed in a Mazda Miata. Like usual if I had to do it again, would be more efficient. Not a lot of rigidity in this car so they do things a little different.
It all worked out and he was happy.
 

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Plugged a tire in my daily. Left rear and on the side wall.

Yes. Don’t plug sidewall leaks. Instead buy a new tire even though this one is perfect.

Figure I’ve not much to loose. No I don’t see the tire abruptly shredding and steering me over the cliff.
Virginia Man forces busload of nuns and orphans off cliff, blames bad tire, film at 11. :D:ROFLMAO:
 

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Thanks!

We use the C199IN--also have one CU199, which is a different critter and just about useless for what we do. The CU199 can't handle intake water temps above 130F, while the C199s were formerly perfectly good with intake temps of 180F.

As for the tech support, the local guy--local as in five hours away--isn't really helpful. We are definitely sing these "off-label" as high temp recirculating heaters.

The suggestion above to check the gas valve makes good sense to me. It's pretty much the only thing I've never replaced.
Alternatively, or in addition, try swapping the temp sensors to see if the problem transfers.
 

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Pressed a bushing into a casting. Drilled and tapped two holes in the drill press base. Mounted the new blade guides. Adjusted them. Put the Dingo out. Cut a chunk of steel off a sheet. Pulled out the new fixture table. Tried to weld the new chunk to the upper blade guard. Nope. Did some diagnosis. Fixed the welder trigger plug. Welded up the part. Cut and ground the new guard to fit. Mounted it. Tested the saw. Fiddled with the guard. Done. Cleaned, flung, put away. Now we're back to where things were, just before the bandsaw broke a week ago.
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I went to the shop and moved some boards and tools around. I realized that what I did this morningbefore breakfast; filling a bunch of baggies with our non prescription supplements, used up my energy for today.

Recovery has been slow, but I feel better every day.
 
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Dh3256

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Thanks!

We use the C199IN--also have one CU199, which is a different critter and just about useless for what we do. The CU199 can't handle intake water temps above 130F, while the C199s were formerly perfectly good with intake temps of 180F.

As for the tech support, the local guy--local as in five hours away--isn't really helpful. We are definitely sing these "off-label" as high temp recirculating heaters.

The suggestion above to check the gas valve makes good sense to me. It's pretty much the only thing I've never replaced.
I think I found what you are looking for, but it actually did not require a login so you should be able to download them from the Rinnai website. If not, I can download them and get them to you.

If you go to the Rinnai website, click on the "professional" tab, and then select the document library, they are listed as "technical data sheets". I think "100000652-Troubleshooting TWH Diagnostic Codes (1).pdf" is what you are looking for, it is a list of codes but also has troubleshooting steps for each code.
 

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That frost-free hydrant is leaking. When a frost-free leaks, more than half the leak is going underground from the drain, so it's probably a bad leak--and water's 'spensive.

I put a cover on the valve well years back so the lil' darlin's (feral children) wouldn't fill it up with ****. Apparently it was already too late.

I spent almost two hours getting the six-inch pipe of the well cleared of trash, rocks and gravel to the five-foot-below-grade valve. Finding the right tools to do it... clamshell posthole digger doesn't work as there's no room for the handles (as usual). Shovels won't fit. Trowels... my arm is only 2' long. The grabber thing was just strong enough to lift a five-pound rock, but it did it. Using the digger bar to loosen the gravel let the Shop-Vac get that and the smaller rocks out (kudos to the old Shop-Vac--it'll **** up anything that can fit into the hose end--and lifted a few rocks that didn't fit). I filled the 16 gal. vac about one-third with rocks and gravel.

Finally got down to the valve! Whoever installed it cheaped out and used a regular ball valve instead of a curb valve.

Went to grab the curb key to see if it fit over the valve handle... no curb key. Spent too long searching for where it might be... no luck. Ran down to the local electrician/plumber shop and borrowed theirs. It fit the valve handle--which immediately sheared off, as the steel handle had been buried for thirty-odd years.

Gotta schedule a day when I can shut off the water to the entire property for a couple of hours... pub, kitchen and brewery.

So glad the dipshit who installed the hydrant was able to save $20 or so by using a ball valve....

Fixed a defrost condensate leak in the pub upright freezer--that went very well.
 
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That frost-free hydrant is leaking. When a frost-free leaks, more than half the leak is going underground from the drain, so it's probably a bad leak.

I put a cover on the valve well years back so the lil' darlin's (feral children) wouldn't fill it up with ****. Apparently it was already too late.

I spent almost two hours getting the six-inch pipe of the well cleared of trash, rocks and gravel to the five-foot-below-grade valve. Finding the right tools to do it... clamshell posthole digger doesn't work as there's no room for the handles (as usual). Shovels won't fit. Trowels... my arm is only 2' long. The grabber thing was just strong enough to lift a five-pound rock, but it did it. Using the digger bar to loosen the gravel let the Shop-Vac get that and the smaller rocks out (kudos to the old Shop-Vac--it'll **** up anything that can fit into the hose end--and lifted a few rocks that didn't fit). I filled the 16 gal. vac about one-third with rocks and gravel.

Finally got down to the valve! Whoever installed it cheaped out and used a regular ball valve instead of a curb valve.

Went to grab the curb key to see if it fit over the valve handle... no curb key. Spent too long searching for where it might be... no luck. Ran down to the local electrician/plumber shop and borrowed theirs. It fit the valve handle--which immediately sheared off, as the steel handle had been buried for thirty-odd years.

Gotta schedule a day when I can shut off the water to the entire property for a couple of hours... pub, kitchen and brewery.

So glad the dipshit who installed the hydrant was able to save $20 or so by using a ball valve....

Fixed a defrost condensate leak in the pub upright freezer--that went very well.
Looks like you're #3.
 

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I really can't explain how good this makes me feel. I get off of work today and have this project, not a fun project but a project. I had to change the trailer jack on my car trailer. I've needed to do it for years but never got around to it. Anyway I come home hook up the tractor to the trailer and drag it from the back of the property into my garage. No moving 10 tons of **** out of the way, no tripping over stuff, just pull it in and get out the tools and get to work. The job went smooth, I listened to music and pulled out my plasma cutter and cut the old one off. Then I pulled out a grinder and cleaned everything up. Then rolled my MIG welder over and welded the new jack in place. No drama, no headache.... a joy getting the job done. In all my years of having my own garage I've never had that. It's a good feeling. I know the welds aren't the best. They will hold and aren't bad for someone who is self taught. They will hold and I'm happy I got the job done with no stress.

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I really can't explain how good this makes me feel. I get off of work today and have this project, not a fun project but a project. I had to change the trailer jack on my car trailer. I've needed to do it for years but never got around to it. Anyway I come home hook up the tractor to the trailer and drag it from the back of the property into my garage. No moving 10 tons of **** out of the way, no tripping over stuff, just pull it in and get out the tools and get to work. The job went smooth, I listened to music and pulled out my plasma cutter and cut the old one off. Then I pulled out a grinder and cleaned everything up. Then rolled my MIG welder over and welded the new jack in place. No drama, no headache.... a joy getting the job done. In all my years of having my own garage I've never had that. It's a good feeling. I know the welds aren't the best. They will hold and aren't bad for someone who is self taught. They will hold and I'm happy I got the job done with no stress.

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It's funny but I completely understand that 'feel good moment'

I say this because I keep my shop tidy as hell (clean up after every job, sometimes even after simple tasks) and I'll get started on the next project

My clamp will fall off the table, an allen wrench gets kicked across the floor (by accident), my sharpie starts running dry, any little annoyance that can rear itself suddenly appears

But then there's a day when everything goes smooth start to finish and it's like 'holy ****, I'm already done?'
 

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Looks like you're #3.
Does a missing tool compare to a tool needing repair? Maybe.... Fixing tools is something I do damned near every job--for instance, the Shop-Vac had to be emptied, the filter changed from wet to dry, and then I had to clean the dry filter before I could use it.

So I am #3 today. :(

The various owners and employees of the business here feel pretty free about borrowing tools. Most are very responsible about returning them--I had to lecture one about putting a tool back exactly where it belonged--how was I supposed to know it had been returned? But most just leave them where I can find them... or not.
 

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Today was a banner day as after 6 weeks of relighting my water hear 1 or 2 times a day we finally got the new one installed. I was cheap and will handle the disposal of the water heater. Was a bit challenging getting it uphill from my walk out basement. Tomorrow will take to recycle center.

Yesterday the dolly I used had 2 flat tires so I built the tire inflator and got the tires to seat on the rim...today had to turn and move the air compressor to mow.

After cleaning the deck and patio furniture with the pressure yesterday spent time in the garage sweeping around my work bench...far too many dust pan loads went out to the trash but found the missing concrete underneath.

My asked me if I would be using my "toys" lets see the free pressure washer, the freight damage air compressor for less than a 75 bucks, the tire inflation set up less than 20, the estate sale S-K ratchet and spark plug socket less than 10 bucks and finally the dolly my father bequeathed me when he moved out of his house. So yes I used my tools to get things done...tomorrow will probably start work on the air hose reel as I determined the scrap plywood piece would work to mount my reel.
 

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Today, back to Ivy cleanup, did some watering,

Looking for my (big) box of lights and trailer wires. did I "reorganize" that?

Cleaned up the last camp "carpet" (actually a tapestry but its thin and big...), broke an old Kirby vac attachment and then broke it some more in the cleanup process to super glue its ailments. but its drying and will get some vinyl electricians tape strategically placed...

Note: discovered those old Kirby plastic pieces are alcohol soluble! It started getting sticky during de-greasing!
 

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A little more on the Toastmaster 1B14:

Why is my toaster so bad? That's one of the questions posed in this weekend's special Food and Drink issue of the New York Times Magazine. "In terms of aesthetics and performance, the toaster has been devolving for a generation," the answer begins. The bit about performance is true, based on decades of toaster testing at Consumer Reports. But the problems actually go back more than just a generation.

"There were electric toasters on the market a half century ago," our editors wrote—in the May 1956 issue of Consumer Reports. "In view of the long years of experience in manufacture, there seems little excuse for toasters that are badly designed or poorly constructed, and no excuse at all for toasters which are hazardous to use." Tests from that year turned up each of those problems. We did recommend some models, including the Toastmaster 1B14, which an expert quoted in the Times article calls "absolutely the end-all-and-be-all toaster there ever was." In fact, while we liked the Toastmaster's overall performance, its narrow slots were unsuitable for thick slices of bread and muffins, so better reviews went to models by Montgomery Ward, Sunbeam, and Knapp-Monarch.

But no toaster was perfect in 1956, and that's still the case. "You'd think that after more than 80 years on the market, toasters would finally serve up perfect toast," our latest report began. However, our current Ratings include a few models that brown evenly from light to dark with almost every batch. That includes a $70 Cuisinart (pictured) which, while not the "handsome hunk of chrome and steel" that the Times called the Toastmaster 1B14, is still pretty fetching in its compact housing and brushed stainless steel finish.

—Daniel DiClerico

Here's why I love it:

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I didn't time it, but it's around one minute to perfect muffins! Because it toasts fast, the bread isn't dried out--a major problem with most of the newer toasters I've tried.

I had an old toaster die on me a few years back and wasted time and $$s trying to find a new toaster that worked as well. From $10 Chinesium to $100+ Cusinart, nothing worked like this $8, 75-year-old yard sale toaster!
Reminds me of this video:
 

Fordguy1964

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It's funny but I completely understand that 'feel good moment'

I say this because I keep my shop tidy as hell (clean up after every job, sometimes even after simple tasks) and I'll get started on the next project

My clamp will fall off the table, an allen wrench gets kicked across the floor (by accident), my sharpie starts running dry, any little annoyance that can rear itself suddenly appears

But then there's a day when everything goes smooth start to finish and it's like 'holy ****, I'm already done?'
I'm the opposite unfortunately. I have so many projects going on that I get overwhelmed at how many things I need to do. I run from one job to another and next thing you know the shop is looking terrible and nothing is put away... to the point where just cleaning the shop is a huge undertaking in itself. The discipline to just stop the race to the next project to clean and arrange is tough to build. I am getting better at it. My dad was terrible at it. I guess I come by it naturally. I think my shop will finally be neat and organized once I am so old I can't use it anymore. :oops:
 

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I'm the opposite unfortunately. I have so many projects going on that I get overwhelmed at how many things I need to do. I run from one job to another and next thing you know the shop is looking terrible and nothing is put away... to the point where just cleaning the shop is a huge undertaking in itself. The discipline to just stop the race to the next project to clean and arrange is tough to build. I am getting better at it. My dad was terrible at it. I guess I come by it naturally. I think my shop will finally be neat and organized once I am so old I can't use it anymore. :oops:
I'm terrible at cleaning as I go. Dad wasn't very mechanically inclined but was a bit of a hoarder and also organizationally challenged.
 
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