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I am of the opinion that Starrett is the "Gold Standard" in measuring tools. I don't own any Starrett tools, as good as they are I can't justify the expense for my personal use.
 
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nadogail said:
I am of the opinion that Starrett is the "Gold Standard" in measuring tools.
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-They make decent instruments but avoid buying the series 711 "Last Word" indicator, especially if it's used. There are often problems with the 711 Last Word and there are better choices than that one model.
 
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-They make decent instruments but avoid buying the series 711 "Last Word" indicator, especially if it's used. There are often problems with the 711 Last Word and there are better choices than that one model.
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When I attended trade school we called them "Last Time" indicators. The first time you'd use one was probably the last time you'd use one. By time everyone graduated, most had replaced it with an Interapid or a B&S.
 
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NORTON'S SHOP said:
When I attended trade school we called them "Last Time" indicators. The first time you'd use one was probably the last time you'd use one. By time everyone graduated, most had replaced it with an Interapid or a B&S.
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-I don't like to knock that model but it was an old design where Starrett bought out the original company (H. E. Lowe) to continue producing it. There's a lot of older machinists that own these, have great sentimental attachment to them, and might find my comments to be offensive. Should any of you take offense bear in mind that the complaints about this model are legion and easily found on various websites from professional machinists. If yours still works that's great, you do you. For the Starrett collectors, there's better designed offerings from them than this one. For the beginning shop wanting to add to the unending tooling list, don't waste your money. I own a lot of different indicator brands but never considered this one for purchase after the ones I'd seen that others owned.
 
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DetailSeeker said:
Found today in the ReStore, a Starrett 3/32" punch. I didn't even know they made those.
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leg17 said:
It didn't look like that when it was new.
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I'm sure it looked a lot like a nail set when it was new. The 3/32" is a common nail set size. As a punch it will probably be fine, but it probably broke when someone tried to pry with it. It may now be beyond the heat treated zone, so it may not hold a point as well. But for making center marks in wood, or other softish things, should be fine.
 
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I can’t even figure out how to use these?
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-The one in the middle is a depth micrometer. The other two are sometimes for scribing lines a set distance off a surface plate in laying out geometry on metal. They are often called a surface gauge. What those two are more commonly used for is holding a dial indicator, usually a lever or plunger type, to check dimensions (used with gauge blocks), to check flatness of a surface, measure location of a construction hole, check top/bottom for parallelism, spindle concentricity, or to check perpendicularity of top/bottom to the sides of a square or rectangle like a thick plate. A surface gauge with a mounted dial indicator is also used for setting other fixtures (Harig type head, radius dresser, etc.) to exact locations that require it. Surface gauges are mostly used with surface grinders or small OD grinding. There's other uses but this is probably more than you wanted to know already. I'll go sit down now....
 
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-The one in the middle is a depth micrometer. The other two are sometimes for scribing lines a set distance off a surface plate in laying out geometry on metal. They are often called a surface gauge. What those two are more commonly used for is holding a dial indicator, usually a lever or plunger type, to check dimensions (used with gauge blocks), to check flatness of a surface, measure location of a construction hole, check top/bottom for parallelism, spindle concentricity, or to check perpendicularity of top/bottom to the sides of a square or rectangle like a thick plate. A surface gauge with a mounted dial indicator is also used for setting other fixtures (Harig type head, radius dresser, etc.) to exact locations that require it. Surface gauges are mostly used with surface grinders or small OD grinding. There's other uses but this is probably more than you wanted to know already. I'll go sit down now....
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Thank you, I can’t say I understand everything you said but I do appreciate you trying to explain it. It does give me somewhere to start searching.
 
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RoninB4 said:
-It's machine shop gobbledygook, doesn't mean anything outside of a machine shop

-I can further explain things....but you'll be sorry you asked.

-Searching for what? If you're not in a shop why will you search? Just curious.
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I just like learning and moving ahead slowly when it comes to stuff like this. I may never use any of it, but I like to know how things work. I’m all ears, so if you’re up to explaining more, I’m listening but I wouldn’t expect it.
 
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Burt Shaver said:
I just like learning and moving ahead slowly when it comes to stuff like this. I may never use any of it, but I like to know how things work. I’m all ears, so if you’re up to explaining more, I’m listening but I wouldn’t expect it.
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-So pick out what you didn't understand about what I wrote/typed in my reply. Evaluate which one(s) you might apply to what you're currently doing so you can use it. If none of it applies then pick the ones with familiar geometric terms. I need to bore someone else besides my own social circle.
 
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