Recommendations for Concrete Sealer for Driveway

[freedom561]

Looking for recommendations on a budget friendly sealer that would be resistant to oil drippings from vehicles and of course UV friendly. Typical rough finish with a mix of new and old concrete. Located in Central Florida so freeze/salt is not a concern.

This product appears to check all the boxes, but open to any other suggestions.

Formula 137™ Penetrating Concrete Sealer – Invisible Finish

Formula 137™ penetrating sealer blocks water, oil, deicing salts & stains on concrete, brick, masonry & stone — zero change to look or texture. UV stable.

www.legacyindustrial.co

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[Youngandfree]

Look up Trident sealers. Based in Florida.

 

[Shea]

Looking for recommendations on a budget friendly sealer that would be resistant to oil drippings from vehicles and of course UV friendly. Typical rough finish with a mix of new and old concrete. Located in Central Florida so freeze/salt is not a concern.

This product appears to check all the boxes, but open to any other suggestions.

Formula 137™ Penetrating Concrete Sealer – Invisible Finish

Formula 137™ penetrating sealer blocks water, oil, deicing salts & stains on concrete, brick, masonry & stone — zero change to look or texture. UV stable.

www.legacyindustrial.co

Thanks

Formula 137 from Legacy would work well for your requirements.

 

[freedom561]

I found this Ghostshield product that looks like it would work: Siloxa-Tek 8510.

I've been researching old threads and found that most options are quite expensive. I was hoping to find a newer more affordable product, but haven't had any luck so far. I have a 1300 sq. ft. concrete apron that I want to protect from oil drips, but I can't justify spending over $1,000 on a sealer, especially if it needs to be reapplied eventually.

Thanks!

 

[Armorpoxy]

Coval or Ballistix are next generation sealers that will outperform any traditional acrylic sealer. We carry both.

 

[67King]

Formula 137 from Legacy would work well for your requirements.

Shae, I just watched a long video from you about densifiers, resulting from some recommendations from another member here to use a densifier before using this sealer. Everything I had seen about densifiers previously was within the context of their use on smooth floors like garage or whatever. However, I have a fair amount of concrete that is brushed.....driveway, sidewalks, patio. Have covered my main area of concern with the 137, but it didn't give me the coverage I was expecting so I have more work to do.

What is your take on using a densifier, then the 137 on top of a densifier? Do you think a densifier is important for these areas (should note, this is new construction, it was poured probably 6 weeks ago)? If so, would you recommend both as separate products, or just use the PS104 you seem to think so highly of? Again, this is all outdoor, so like the OP in this thread, UV protection is probably my top priority. The only vehicle that will be parked in any of these areas regularly is an EV, so no oil leaks to deal with.

 

[DaChev]

I've been down this path. 137 will not go very far on untreated brushed concrete. It will be all but gone within 3 years and at $100 per gallon, you will go broke. Start with a densifier.

After you densify, there will not be much need for a 2 in 1. Then you can save a lot of money on the sealer. Your sealer will go a lot further if the concrete is densified.

 

[Shea]

Shae, I just watched a long video from you about densifiers, resulting from some recommendations from another member here to use a densifier before using this sealer. Everything I had seen about densifiers previously was within the context of their use on smooth floors like garage or whatever. However, I have a fair amount of concrete that is brushed.....driveway, sidewalks, patio. Have covered my main area of concern with the 137, but it didn't give me the coverage I was expecting so I have more work to do.

What is your take on using a densifier, then the 137 on top of a densifier? Do you think a densifier is important for these areas (should note, this is new construction, it was poured probably 6 weeks ago)? If so, would you recommend both as separate products, or just use the PS104 you seem to think so highly of? Again, this is all outdoor, so like the OP in this thread, UV protection is probably my top priority. The only vehicle that will be parked in any of these areas regularly is an EV, so no oil leaks to deal with.

Broom finished concrete acts like a sponge with penetrating sealers and dramatically reduces coverage rates. PS104 is a great product because it densifies the upper concrete surface and includes the added protection of a siliconate sealer. Siliconate works well at resisting freeze-thaw damage from moisture and deicing salt. However, the coverage rates will still be reduced due to the broomed finish.

Penetrating sealers have rarely been stacked successfully with a densifier. The only exception to that is when using newer oil-repelling sealers, such as GhostShield 8510 and, sometimes, PS100 by Concrete Sealers USA. Field studies have shown that applying a densifier first allows the oil-repelling tendencies to work more effectively, since most of the sealer is confined to the uppermost surface layer. However, if the surface was fairly tight (doesn't absorb much water) to begin with, the densifier will tend to reject the oil-repelling sealer upon application.

A product I would consider for your project is PS102 by Concrete Sealers USA. It's a siliconate sealer designed for broom-finished and rougher finished concrete surfaces. It contains minimal amounts of acrylic polymers in the formulation to help bridge the porous gaps in such concrete and provide better surface protection. The coverage rate for broom-finished concrete is 200-250 square feet per gallon. You can price it here.

If you read the product description and recommended uses, I think it will better fit your requirements.

 

[67King]

A product I would consider for your project is PS102 by Concrete Sealers USA. It's a siliconate sealer designed for broom-finished and rougher finished concrete surfaces. It contains minimal amounts of acrylic polymers in the formulation to help bridge the porous gaps in such concrete and provide better surface protection. The coverage rate for broom-finished concrete is 200-250 square feet per gallon. You can price it here.

If you read the product description and recommended uses, I think it will better fit your requirements.

Thanks so much, Shae! I went to your site, and ordered it there, hoping/assuming you'd get some sort of affiliate kickback. Regardless, a question for you. Mentioned in the thread I started that I had a bit of the concrete that only had some fo the 137, not two coats. Can tell when it rains, as well. Is there any risk that if I put down this PS102 and overlap that area, there may be some reaction between the two that would cause any harm? I went ahead and got 5 gallons, so I can use it in some of the patio areas, as well, hopefully to cut down on the maintenance needs.

 

[ericm]

Penetrating sealers have rarely been stacked successfully with a densifier. The only exception to that is when using newer oil-repelling sealers, such as GhostShield 8510 and, sometimes, PS100 by Concrete Sealers USA. Field studies have shown that applying a densifier first allows the oil-repelling tendencies to work more effectively, since most of the sealer is confined to the uppermost surface layer. However, if the surface was fairly tight (doesn't absorb much water) to begin with, the densifier will tend to reject the oil-repelling sealer upon application.

My shop has two rooms. I applied PS103 to the farm equipment storage side a few days ago with the plan of applying PS100 after a week. I was trying to apply all the concrete would take without puddling. I got about 450 sq ft per gallon. I was planning on doing the same PS103 then PS100 on the workshop side. It's concrete is finished a little smoother. Does this sound like it's tight enough that I should skip the PS103 and just do PS100?

 

[Shea]

Thanks so much, Shae! I went to your site, and ordered it there, hoping/assuming you'd get some sort of affiliate kickback. Regardless, a question for you. Mentioned in the thread I started that I had a bit of the concrete that only had some fo the 137, not two coats. Can tell when it rains, as well. Is there any risk that if I put down this PS102 and overlap that area, there may be some reaction between the two that would cause any harm? I went ahead and got 5 gallons, so I can use it in some of the patio areas, as well, hopefully to cut down on the maintenance needs.

You won't have any adverse reaction. Just apply it sparingly in the area that you overlap. Otherwise, it may puddle slightly and dry to a white haze that needs to be scrubbed hard to remove.

 

[Shea]

My shop has two rooms. I applied PS103 to the farm equipment storage side a few days ago with the plan of applying PS100 after a week. I was trying to apply all the concrete would take without puddling. I got about 450 sq ft per gallon. I was planning on doing the same PS103 then PS100 on the workshop side. It's concrete is finished a little smoother. Does this sound like it's tight enough that I should skip the PS103 and just do PS100?

It really depends on how much moisture it will currently absorb. PS100 was first developed without the intent of applying a densifier first. It was only after they received field reports from contractors applying to both densified and non-densified concrete surfaces that they learned that it performed even better. If your surface readily absorbs a shot glass full of water within a few minutes in various areas, then a densifier applied first will help. However, if the water takes longer than that to absorb, you should be just fine without the densifier.

 

[Mike65]

I used Foundation Armor SX5000 clear matte finish sealer on our garage/shop floor.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Foundation-Armor-SX5000-WB-Silane-Siloxane-Clear-Matte-Transparent-Concrete-Sealer-Ready-to-use-5-Gallon/5005413909

 

[DaChev]

Looking for recommendations on a budget friendly sealer that would be resistant to oil drippings from vehicles and of course UV friendly.

Thanks

Funny thing. I missed this part in your first post.

Whatever you choose, know this. Formula 137 will not protect your driveway from oil drippings.

No matter what any vendor on this site says, 137 will not do this.