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CHI_Tool&Die

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I picked up a couple of the Icon G2 1/4" locking flex head ratchets at the recent sale, but finally got around to converting the second one to 3/8" drive today using Snap-On parts...

Super easy, I posted a separate how-to thread here:


This one is highly likely to become my new favorite 3/8" ratchet!

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Ok, so let me preface this by saying I’m always down with you doing you, but I got to ask what’s the point? Like what are you gaining from this especially when TTC had the Icon guts performing better in the stress test?
 
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moemc

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Icon ratcheting wrenches. ~$137 today during their holiday sale. Though you can get other identical KABO rebrands within $20 of this price most of the time I figured having the ease of warranty was probably worth waiting for the HF sale.

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I ended up getting these today. Held off on them forever. I wish there was more ratchet wrenches on the market with that offset on the socket piece. I think that would actually be great on a set of medium-to-long pattern daily-driver combo ratchet wrenches. I’m not sure why it’s been a thing for so long but we still only really see it on extra long pattern.

I have seen that SK11 offers a MSFR-12R (or 8/10/13/14/17/19) with this on a shorter pattern flex combo wrench. But I actually want it on just a normal set of ratchet wrenches (non-flex). I have a set of Kabo made Stahlwille ratchet wrenches and I would love to swap out that socket piece with the ones from this set.
 

moemc

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Ok, so let me preface this by saying I’m always down with you doing you, but I got to ask what’s the point? Like what are you gaining from this especially when TTC had the Icon guts performing better in the stress test?
I don’t think icon sells the parts, so if you wanted a 1/4 body 3/8 you have to go aftermarket. I did this with a previous generation icon 1/4 body using tekton parts.
 

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Took advantage of the Icon 40% off today to get a set of SAE crow's feet. It could be a long while before I ever use them. My thought process was that the only thing I ever use out of my late father's toolbox is his crow's feet. Figured it was worth forty bucks to avoid an argument with my brothers if one of them ever lays claim to his box.

I've never paid attention to Icon wrenches until today, but I really like the looks of them. I suppose they've been debated to death here. Will have to search. They look like they'd be awesome second sets.


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Ok, so let me preface this by saying I’m always down with you doing you, but I got to ask what’s the point? Like what are you gaining from this especially when TTC had the Icon guts performing better in the stress test?
My objective wasn't to replace Icon parts with Snap on parts, or to improve "performance". It was to create something that isn't available from Icon. A 3/8" flex head ratchet in a compact 1/4" body. Snap-On sells something close to this, the FCF72, but it is $145.

I don’t think icon sells the parts, so if you wanted a 1/4 body 3/8 you have to go aftermarket. I did this with a previous generation icon 1/4 body using tekton parts.

Exactly. Icon doesn't sell a ratchet like this, nor do they sell the parts to do the conversion, so I used the interchangeable snap-on parts.

Also note that IMHO the TTC "stress testing", while great entertainment, isn't really all that meaningful, particularly for a tool like this. This is NOT a tool that I'm going to be reefing on. It's a tool that is used for access and convenience, not big torque.

The SO 3/8" anvils that are used in these 1/4" body applications are essentially "fused". They are intentionally necked down between the actual anvil and the gear so it fails first. If I overdue it with this ratchet, the anvil will snap. And I'll have to spend another $11 on another repair kit... I can handle that.

You can see the necked down area (what I refer to as the fuse) of the 3/8" replacement anvil pretty clearly in this picture

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iagsxr

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I picked up a couple of the Icon G2 1/4" locking flex head ratchets at the recent sale, but finally got around to converting the second one to 3/8" drive today using Snap-On parts...

Super easy, I posted a separate how-to thread here:


This one is highly likely to become my new favorite 3/8" ratchet!

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I really don't need another ratchet, but I kind of want to do this.
 

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Decided to get a decent picture that didn't include a disturbing amount of upper thigh. Also got a pair of Tsunoda and Igan flush cuts. The Tsunodas feel smooth and flawless. The Igans are smooth and seem to be a direct copy of the Tsunodas, but the spring in it is creaky, so that'll be getting taken out. I still can't believe the price I got on the CAT stuff.
 

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Jtels85

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Ordered some parts for the Z28 and picked up this metric T-Handle set from Summit Racing.

Also found this thermometer/hygrometer for $10 at the hardware store. 31 degrees is the current outside temperature, so 55 in the basement garage is great! IMG_5913.jpeg
 

W-Cummins

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lol, just noticed that... I think that is an artifact of the very wide angle lens and being on the edge of the frame, as my thumb is *not* that big!


Proof I have a (relatively) normal sized thumb...
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I don't know about the thumb deal, but does yours hit the handle with the ratchet head when you spin it around??
 

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Ordered some parts for the Z28 and picked up this metric T-Handle set from Summit Racing.

Also found this thermometer/hygrometer for $10 at the hardware store. 31 degrees is the current outside temperature, so 55 in the basement garage is great! IMG_5913.jpeg

Well, that's just your average Red China T-handle metric set, like I got new at a flea market for $13 in the 90's, back when Chinese imports like this were rare. And ya know what? They're perfectly fine! If I had a problem with them, I'd go buy some Bondhus, but there's just no reason to.
 

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Sidchrome 21mm R&OE. Had to special order and then wait. Price, at $35 from Total Tools was about what I expected.

Sidchrome because SP Tools don't make this size and the quality is top shelf.

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Now I just have to do a little rearranging.....
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I had to go check on Sidchrome, hoping that it was named after an Australian guy named Sidney. Nope!


Wikipedia:
"The brand emerged when Royston Siddons' Siddons Drop Forgings turned to tool making to fill post war shortages after World War II. Original production of Sidchrome tools was in Brunswick, Melbourne, Australia."

Now part of the Stanley Black & Decker borg, and made in Taiwan.
 

Jtels85

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Well, that's just your average Red China T-handle metric set, like I got new at a flea market for $13 in the 90's, back when Chinese imports like this were rare. And ya know what? They're perfectly fine! If I had a problem with them, I'd go buy some Bondhus, but there's just no reason to.
Exactly. I thought they'd be handy to have in certain situations. I usually use a hex bit socket on a ratchet, but sometimes it's just too much of a pain.
 
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cody1325

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The battery went dead in my grandmother's '23 Crosstrek key fob. Dealer was out ($200 for a key...), and I don't buy coin cell batteries at auto parts stores due to ridiculous pricing. Four batteries at Lowe's were around the same price as two at Advance, Auto Zone, or O'Reilly.

Bought the pry tool to help get it apart (as I left my pocket pry bar at home--besides I always have some sort of pry bar and flashlight on keyrings--even if it's a tool only ring) and the three Toysmith 3ft./1M tape measures were less than a dollar each on clearance--same with the Welly Freightliner school bus. At a buck a piece--that even beats the Bauer 6-footer at Harbor Freight. Bought the last three I found. The metric markings on these are the icing on the cake--my last 1M/3FT tape got washed and no longer works smoothly.

Also, the two buckets... I use the mini ones as small parts containers, and the pink one as "why not!".

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Madjik Man

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Ok, so let me preface this by saying I’m always down with you doing you, but I got to ask what’s the point? Like what are you gaining from this especially when TTC had the Icon guts performing better in the stress test?

Not that I’m going to do this but if I wanted a G2 3/8s in a standard length I’d have to do this conversion.

But I’ll just wait until HF comes out with the 3/8s G2 in a standard length. And then decide if I want to buy it or not.
 

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Bought the half inch version of this about 3 years ago I think. It’s held up well. This 3/8 is well balanced and good quality. Backdrag is a respectable 5 ounce inches. I don’t know of any other locking flex head extendable ratchets, but I’m sure someone else resells this combination.

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I posted on the Milwaukee addiction thread how disappointed I was with the M18 snow blower, shout out to HD for taking it back since I had paid with their store card. Decided to just get what I planned from the beginning. A Honda snowblower. IMG_5383.jpeg
oh wtf. Had I known HONDA made snow blowers I would have been all over that instead of this Cub Cadet I just bought. Thats what I get for shopping spontaneously. Though I dont think I would have splurged for this $4000 model! I am jealous of this.
 

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I posted on the Milwaukee addiction thread how disappointed I was with the M18 snow blower, shout out to HD for taking it back since I had paid with their store card. Decided to just get what I planned from the beginning. A Honda snowblower. IMG_5383.jpeg

Great....now Tubby's going to have a woody all day long!

Nice purchase!
 
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Lowlevel2021

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oh wtf. Had I known HONDA made snow blowers I would have been all over that instead of this Cub Cadet I just bought. Thats what I get for shopping spontaneously. Though I dont think I would have splurged for this $4000 model! I am jealous of this.
I really wanted the Milwaukee battery version to be all it was hyped up to be but sadly they may need to work on a 2 stage model. Yes this thing is expensive but it’s one of those buy once, cry once items.
 

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VEVOR 14pc Router/Table Saw Gauge Block Set.

These aluminum measuring blocks are used to set height/angle/depth/thickness on various tool like routers, tablesaws etc. They're sold under different brand names on every tool site from HD to Amazon.

This set was actually ordered from HD under the name SKYSHALO, but came in as a VEVOR Set. Same color and no differance in quality, which is very nice. (The overhead lighting makes them look off color, but they're not.)

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SC Fly Guy

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I posted on the Milwaukee addiction thread how disappointed I was with the M18 snow blower, shout out to HD for taking it back since I had paid with their store card. Decided to just get what I planned from the beginning. A Honda snowblower. IMG_5383.jpeg
Almost makes me wish I still spent my winters in the snow belt of Western NY … oh wait, I’m over it!! 🤣😉 Beautiful machine though!!!
 

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I had to go check on Sidchrome, hoping that it was named after an Australian guy named Sidney. Nope!


Wikipedia:
"The brand emerged when Royston Siddons' Siddons Drop Forgings turned to tool making to fill post war shortages after World War II. Original production of Sidchrome tools was in Brunswick, Melbourne, Australia."

Now part of the Stanley Black & Decker borg, and made in Taiwan.
Were you thinking "Sydney"?

No self-respecting Australian would ever allow himself to be called Sidney. It would be "Sid" or just "hey you".

When they were made here Sidchrome tools were every mechanic's choice. Better than SnapOn, and half the price. The move to Taiwan manufacturing did see a slight drop in quality but only at the extreme duty end. For example, flare nut spanners do spread after time, but so do the ones from SnapOn. Inconclusive? Perhaps. But I have both Australian and Taiwan made and they perform just as well as each other.
 

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Bought the half inch version of this about 3 years ago I think. It’s held up well. This 3/8 is well balanced and good quality. Backdrag is a respectable 5 ounce inches. I don’t know of any other locking flex head extendable ratchets, but I’m sure someone else resells this combination.

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5 ounce inches? How do you measure this and why does it matter?

I have been wrenching all my life, I like some ratchets better then others, I have a **** ton of them.

None are extendable but I have one for the job.
 

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The battery went dead in my grandmother's '23 Crosstrek key fob. Dealer was out ($200 for a key...), and I don't buy coin cell batteries at auto parts stores due to ridiculous pricing. Four batteries at Lowe's were around the same price as two at Advance, Auto Zone, or O'Reilly.

Bought the pry tool to help get it apart (as I left my pocket pry bar at home--besides I always have some sort of pry bar and flashlight on keyrings--even if it's a tool only ring) and the three Toysmith 3ft./1M tape measures were less than a dollar each on clearance--same with the Welly Freightliner school bus. At a buck a piece--that even beats the Bauer 6-footer at Harbor Freight. Bought the last three I found. The metric markings on these are the icing on the cake--my last 1M/3FT tape got washed and no longer works smoothly.

Also, the two buckets... I use the mini ones as small parts containers, and the pink one as "why not!".

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How much gas did the extra driving cost you? Amazon delivers coin batteries post haste.
 

pfbz

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Honda Snowblowers.... I have an older tracked 24". Starts on the first pull (and it is an easy pull) pretty much every time. Maybe twice the first start of the season. Which is a good thing, since it doesn't have electric start. Runs SO smooth!

I also have an Ariens 28" SHO. It's a great machine, but it's almost comical how much smoother the Honda is.

I will say the tracks on the Honda are +/-. They were great at the mountain cabin, which is where I originally bought Honda for, but on a large concrete driveway that is relatively flat, the wheels are just a better choice, and I end up using the Ariens because of the wider width and the wheels.

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Were you thinking "Sydney"?

No self-respecting Australian would ever allow himself to be called Sidney. It would be "Sid" or just "hey you".

When they were made here Sidchrome tools were every mechanic's choice. Better than SnapOn, and half the price. The move to Taiwan manufacturing did see a slight drop in quality but only at the extreme duty end. For example, flare nut spanners do spread after time, but so do the ones from SnapOn. Inconclusive? Perhaps. But I have both Australian and Taiwan made and they perform just as well as each other.
How about Sydney Sweeny?
 

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More tool truck carnage... I really like the 14.4v light it's one of the best lights I have! I traded the smaller 14.4v light with the swivel head on it ( it was a HUGE POS!! and not that much cheaper). The magnetic battery base is also a great addition I'm going to get some more of them...

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some warranty replacements too...
 
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