This is why you don't use a vise as a press

[whateg01]

Fireball claims their vise is made to be used as a press, and it does a fine job of it. But we all know that there are more cheap vises in garages than Fireballs.

 

[seber]

Not sure which is the bigger mistake. Cheater on the vise handle or flaring tool for crimping.

 

[mike93lx]

Not sure which is the bigger mistake. Cheater on the vise handle or flaring tool for crimping.

It's almost like the vise isn't the problem in this equation

 

[whateg01]

It's almost like the vise isn't the problem in this equation

I wondered if the uneven loading had a part in the vise breaking. I know lots of people use the vise as a press brake.

 

[david3921]

I wondered if the uneven loading had a part in the vise breaking. I know lots of people use the vise as a press brake.

I have both and use both to, well, press things. I always try to position items in the middle of the vise if I'm using it as a press.

 

[niget2002]

Last time I used a cheater bar on a vise, I broke a jaw off of a pair of angle cutters.

 

[Ike Carlson]

“I wasn’t reefin on it that hard”…

Dude had a cheater bar on a little cast iron lathe…

 

[Beerhippie]

I only use the vise as a press when I need to press something together that fits in the vise. I've only been doing it for about three decades, so what do I know?

But no cheater bars on any of my vises... ever.

 

[dscheidt]

But no cheater bars on any of my vises... ever.

I don't use cheater bars either. A hammer is much faster.

 

[mike93lx]

I only use the vise as a press when I need to press something together that fits in the vise

So always?

 

[Beerhippie]

I don't use cheater bars either. A hammer is much faster.

Nah. We have a forklift.

 

[MichaelP]

Next time he should try crimping with his teeth.

 

[jayemm]

Cheater bar is primitive technology. Weld a nut on the spindle and use a big impact wrench.

 

[PlanB]

Maybe it's better not to post some video's?

 

[drokihazan]

I bought a 20 ton shop press this year solely because I cracked the nut in my vise and felt so bad about it.

 

[NUTTSGT]

A cheater bar on a vise ? Sounds like a candidate for a Darwin award in his future.

 

[General Geoff]

Based on how many bent handles I see on bench vises everywhere, seems cheater bars are just common practice among Americans, at least

 

[PeterPeter]

Don’t you know you’re supposed to use a drill press ?

 

[NoahG]

All the silly ways people come up with to swage sleeves, when the proper tools are very accessible and affordable (other than Nicopress, of course )

 

[1Bad55Chevy]

The amount of stupidity thats on YouTube/tiktok that is consumed daily by humans hurts my brain.....

 

[CJM8515]

hmm, cheater bar, flaring tool, not centering the work in the jaws, putting the flaring tool in such a way as to create uneven tension (I woulda put it centered HORIZONTAL) in the jaws..

yep, broke vise.

 

[Farmall450]

Based on how many bent handles I see on bench vises everywhere, seems cheater bars are just common practice among Americans, at least

That is supposed to be the "shear bolt" per say to idiot proof it. The handle should bend before anything else is damaged.

 

[1Bad55Chevy]

hmm, cheater bar, flaring tool, not centering the work in the jaws, putting the flaring tool in such a way as to create uneven tension (I woulda put it centered HORIZONTAL) in the jaws..

yep, broke vise.

Or you could have gotten this....

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[Beerhippie]

Based on how many bent handles I see on bench vises everywhere, seems cheater bars are just common practice among Americans, at least

I mean, really? Don't people know the proper way to tighten a vise is to whack the hell out of the handle with a BFH? If a BFH isn't handy, a large Crescent wrench will do.

 

[MichaelP]

A 20-40 ton hydraulic press is excellent to tighten vise handle.

 

[Oldsnapper]

Plus using the wrong size crimp sleeves. i was taught that the cable should just fit into the sleeve with no extra space. It looks like he is using 1/16 cable in 1/8 sleeves.

 

[Beerhippie]

So always?

No. Not everything needing pressing fits in the vise. That's where the BFH comes in.