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Above 1200 Sq/FT 1898 Ohio Post and Beam Barn rebuild - 6784

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I'm super late to this forum. Great job on the barn restoration !! When I lived in Richwood (like 10 years ago) I used to come across 30, get off on 4, south through Bucyrus, through Marion to Richwood. There used to be this crazy, giant crane thing with a massive grapple on the east side of Route 4 in the Bucyrus area. This was at least 10 years ago. Do you recall seeing that thing? What in the heck was it ?
 
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Weather has not been cooperative until just the last few weeks. February has turned into June, told my guys to help the people who lost roofs first and get to my barn whenever things calmed down.

So this week Old Barn Things happened.

Old sliding doors off on the ground level, and some window holes framed up and cut out on the mow level. 20260609_181111.jpg


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More openings, less walls. Actually the same, just doors off.

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This support pole in the middle of that 16' opening was a temporary bandaid 10 years ago. Now we do away with it and fix it permanently in a much gooder fashion. And no more obstructive pole.

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More sliders gone and siding tightened up.

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Sliding man-door gone and temporary windows removed, sills frames and all.
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The materials are stored inside so the front big doors are still on. They will be the last to go once most of the lumber is used up and not in the path of rain.

South wall with new nailers. This siding took the most abuse from sun wind and rain, and that lap up high needs leveled out, so new lumber sandwiches the old siding to the structures framework. The new metal will be hung on this new lumber and bonus is a "free" airgap which does a pretty decent job of acting as insulation. Well, for an old barn that is, lol.
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Man door and several overhead door frames happened today.

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This opening that had the temp post now has an LVL carrying the load to the corner frame beam. Bye-bye post.

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I never have understood why this opening was in the foundation. My Dutch Shepard loved to use it while cruising for critters. Of course, it also was letting said critters in.
That ripped up siding is her handywork...she tore all that off with her teeth, trying to get a groundhog which ran for his life and was hiding within those glazed foundation blocks. She REALLY wanted him to stop hiding and start crunching.

All closed in now.

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I'm super late to this forum. Great job on the barn restoration !! When I lived in Richwood (like 10 years ago) I used to come across 30, get off on 4, south through Bucyrus, through Marion to Richwood. There used to be this crazy, giant crane thing with a massive grapple on the east side of Route 4 in the Bucyrus area. This was at least 10 years ago. Do you recall seeing that thing? What in the heck was it ?
Are you positive this crazy giant crane grapple thing was in the Bucyrus area? I am born and raised here, and that sure doesn't ring any bells. Granted, I am only 54 years old, but it sounds like you saw this fairly recently. Perhaps it was in the Marion part of Route 4? Though I don't know of anything like that in Marion either, lol.

You have me genuinely curious...sounds kinda cool.
 
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Yesterday was very rewarding. The most challenging openings are handled, and one can almost see how its going to look when done. Still plenty to be done, but its sure nice having the most difficult all nailed down.


This 36" man-door took much longer than anticipated. Old barn - nothing plumb, square, level, etc. Its in now and it functions, all that matters.

The main front door opening had three cut stone rectangular pieces acting as a thresh-hold. Twenty of them were found buried in a field by accident years ago while fixing tile; I got six of them and have used them for various purposes while rehabbing these old barns. The three thresh-hold ones came back out of the front opening as that will be completely reworked - I think I can use them in front of the man-door as as a landing/step since its a rather large step to make. More on that later....

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This corner needed lots of lovin' as it had a 20' tree growing directly against the foundation when we bought the place 26 years ago. The wind had used that tree like a cheese grater on the siding, and that let the weather do a number on the framework. The temporary post I mentioned earlier brought the frame back into position, and today we addressed it permanently and also incorporated the door framing at the same time.

And temp post in the middle is gone. Can you tell how much that makes my day?

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This opening in particular has been trouble. That old beam in the top middle of it is mind boggling - its a main support, yet it hovers in space with no load-bearing-down-to-ground capabilities. Beyond that, it limits headroom. Originally a split slider due to there not being enough room to either side to "store" a full width slider in the open position, we were planning on narrowing the opening to a width that could store a one-piece slider, as the headroom seemed to negate any chance of an overhead door.

Craig worked his magic and this will now recieve a 6'6" tall overhead door with as much width as the original opening will allow. Thanks Craig and crew!

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Work moved around to the front. Many years ago we put new doors on the old rusty sliding tracks. They work fairly well except for the occasional walnut shell that the squirrels stuffed in front of the rollers. Walnut shells act like wheel chocks in that instance, but a ladder and a few minutes and fishing them out is possible.

The wind was another thing though. The front faces west, and the prevailing wind is an almost constant concern for big sliding doors. They really need something for the bottoms to push against so they don't blow inwards and break from severely twisting.

My temporary fix was large rectangular cut stones, about 4' long and 10" tall x 8" wide. Three of those stones laid lengthwise across the opening worked perfect with the door length and backfilling with stone on both the inside and outside made a good floor and approach.

And now all of that needs to come back out. A future concrete floor is part of the calculation for the overhead door, there is no need for a ramp and elevated floor, and there is a structural beam at 14', which is about right for RV storage if ever needed. So here is the front opening framed for a 14' door, and some windows as well to discourage bats as much as possible.

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This back side of the front part of the barn is also getting a 14' tall overhead. Its a few feet wider than the front opening, so maybe two RVs could be stored back here, along with one in the front. Retirement income? Thats a ways away, but who knows?

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Windows are in the haymow area, all four lower door openings are framed and trimmed, and the haymow cleanout hole is closed back up. We decided to add another window on the upper east wall next to the french door, but thats still coming. The old hay door opening is also closed in now.

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I spent some quality barn time relocating the stone from the front ramp area (and the sides, and the threshhold, and...) to the southeast corner area where the grade needs raised 8" or more.

Its a start anyways.

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Yesterday there was a windstorm that blew through the area like a banshee. A good neighbor only a mile west had a bad day of it.

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We have hundreds of sticks to clean up, and one large one.

It twisted this branch off 20' up, the branch is 15" diameter where it broke. 20260615_074216.jpg

It was close to the north barn, but not enough to damage anything.
The south barn we are working on, even with no doors at all, just got a bit damp.

I'll take that, could be far worse.

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Siding is starting to go up!

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The side wall metal panels are tedius to cut as the siding is being notched at the top to fit closely around the roof rafters, under the eaves.
Lots of measuring and nipping.

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This was at noon today.
 
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We gave been doing a lot of work on the inside structure at the same time as the outside. Its hard to photograph, but a 20' extension boom on the skidsteer was used to relocate the front center haymow beams upwards 4' to make headroom for the 14' overhead door. They appear left-center in the picture below. They used to sit on that beam below where they are now, same as the beam just visible in the lower left of this picture.

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A 20'+ beam was removed from the south bay as it was at a position that gave 6'6" headroom at ground level, and it was very questionably mounted. It was used to help rebuild the shambles that used to be the rear center mow of the front center bay.

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New lumber was added to add connection points to tie the south wall positively to the rest of the structure.

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And a shot of the window cutouts in what was formally Satans Haymow.

I guess it needs a new name now?

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Here are some more detail pIcture of framing out the south doors and the north door. I hope it helps show why that one with the floating non-load bearing beam was so challenging.

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Other south door.

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And the north door frame. This one sets the floor height for this lower back part of the barn. Partly as it already has a threshhold - in usable condition - and mostly because regrading the ground on the north side is not really possible without creating a bunch of drainage problems.


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Okay I spy a beige beetle and I saw the buggy frame in the barn, time for details!

The beige is a two-toned '67 with an adjustable front beam and Porsche style wheels and ****** caps.

The buggy frame I found sitting on top of a semi trailer at a local junkyard, it was partially built but never finished, has a Ghia disc brake beam on it and IRS rear clip but nothing else.
I couldn't leave it up there to rot now could I?

That, and I may have a problem. Or not. I still think of it as a hobby, not an obsession.

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I am struggling to get decent images of the interior side of the east wall framework, with the big LVL and corner support repair. The lighting is all wrong all of the time, lol.

These are still not good, but are the best I have managed so far. That is a 20" LVL trimmed down just a tad to match the building. It carries the hay mow floor joist load, headers the opening below, and reworks the corner support.

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Two more walls sided yesterday.

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Some of the wall pictured above have full 35' length siding, but most of it is broken up by openings.

This wall is mostly full length, non-cut siding. Had to pick a calm day to hang those.

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Today has been pretty windy all day, so probably more trimming. That last wall will need little to no breeze to work it.
 

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This is looking fantastic. I love to see an old barn, especially a local one, being brought back to life.

I had an Amish crew do the same thing (on a much smaller scale) on my old shop in 2024.
 
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The constant wind yesterday made for a good day to finish off rebuilding the center rear haymow. Several big beams I had scavenged over the years finally got used, and the white oak sliding doors off the east side were repurposed as the new haymow floor. I am thrilled at how this turned out.

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Even had a few leftover beams. If anyone has a use for them, let me know.

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Big sheets are a no-go in the wind, but finishing up the trim was definitely doable. There are even door knobs now.

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Let there be light. Windows are working as hoped. This should be much less attractive to bats now.

I like bats, but if you have ever been invaded by a Nurse Colony of bats you will understand. Horribly destructive to a building and its contents.

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While I was up there this morning I snapped some images of the rebuilt haymow with the old oak doors. With the painted side facing up it looks original from underneath. Not too many people will see this side.

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Are you positive this crazy giant crane grapple thing was in the Bucyrus area? I am born and raised here, and that sure doesn't ring any bells. Granted, I am only 54 years old, but it sounds like you saw this fairly recently. Perhaps it was in the Marion part of Route 4? Though I don't know of anything like that in Marion either, lol.

You have me genuinely curious...sounds kinda cool.
No clue either and I'm a few years older.



Place is really looking nice, keep up the good progress. ***** about Corey's place, I drove by it Tuesday or Wednesday.
 
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STINEY

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I was wondering if he meant the E-Crane elevated mock-up deal in Galion? It IS on the east side of a State highway.....or rather was...been gone for a while now.
 
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