Where Can I Get These Electrical Connectors?

[Northern_Lights]

I’m far from an electrical expert and in need of some help. I’m replacing some connectors and would like to know where I can get these same models.

(1) This 16-14 AWG female spade connector. I found some at my local hardware store, but they didn’t have the small first crimp that crimps the end of the insulated wire to really hold it securely. Any idea on where I can get about 15 of these?

(2) This 16-14 AWG end crimp. I’m not even sure what to call it, it’s not a bullet or a pin connector, but looks like it’s just a crimp to go over the end of the wire to help keep the copper strands crimped together so it can be easily inserted into a screw down type terminal. Again, any idea on where I can get about 15 of these or even what they are?

Thanks for any help.

 

[wssix99]

If you go through the blade terminals at Mouser, you will find these evenually.

https://www.mouser.com/c/connectors/terminals/?type=Blade&utm_id=9428891927&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_marketing_tactic=amercorp&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=9428891927&gbraid=0AAAAADn_wf03MZCi9nf3L9c4jrDOlkfV0&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_IXQBhCkARIsADqELbLQ6Xivl1l2vxxbgSQxDfWJwecGlYUp3nS5uf3g_szH5je3458BIGYaAoYKEALw_wcB

 

[Chuckster in NJ]

I have purchased from this place a few times:

Crimp Wire Terminals | Electrical Crimp Connectors | ElecDirect

We offer the largest online selection of crimp wire connectors made right here in the U.S.A. Purchase your wire terminals at ElecDirect today!

www.elecdirect.com

BTW! The prices are fair and they have a great selection.

 

[Northern_Lights]

Thanks for the replies. I'll check both those pages out. Any idea what the 2nd connector is even called or what type it is?

 

[Firebrick43]

Open barreled **** splice

 

[PCustoms]

Thanks for the replies. I'll check both those pages out. Any idea what the 2nd connector is even called or what type it is?

Looks like a broken off terminal to me.

But this is a pin terminal:

 

[Firebrick43]

Looks like a broken off terminal to me.

Maybe. I thought that at first to but both wings are crimped tight around the wire where the one should be around the insulation and if it slipped shouldn’t be tight on the wire.

 

[Northern_Lights]

I know it's not broken off unless they did that on purpose as part of the OEM factory assembling process. As far as I can tell, it just crimps all the copper stands together so they easily fit into the terminal and can be clamped down with a single screw to make the connection.

 

[wssix99]

It sure does look like a broken crimp. A crimp for going into a screw block still has a blade coming off of it. If you can show us where it goes, we can be of more help.

 

[Firebrick43]

I know it's not broken off unless they did that on purpose as part of the OEM factory assembling process. As far as I can tell, it just crimps all the copper stands together so they easily fit into the terminal and can be clamped down with a single screw to make the connection.

They should have used a ferrule

 

[Jsf721]

I’m far from an electrical expert and in need of some help. I’m replacing some connectors and would like to know where I can get these same models.

(1) This 16-14 AWG female spade connector. I found some at my local hardware store, but they didn’t have the small first crimp that crimps the end of the insulated wire to really hold it securely. Any idea on where I can get about 15 of these?

(2) This 16-14 AWG end crimp. I’m not even sure what to call it, it’s not a bullet or a pin connector, but looks like it’s just a crimp to go over the end of the wire to help keep the copper strands crimped together so it can be easily inserted into a screw down type terminal. Again, any idea on where I can get about 15 of these or even what they are?

Thanks for any help.

that is a basic spade / blade connector Amazon

 

[dave*99]

Whatever this is, it appears a cut may have been made after the crimp was completed. All wire strands except for two end with the brass.

What does it connect to?

 

[wssix99]

What does it connect to?

The burned part.

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

Digikey, Mouser, Newark. It may be difficult to find a preinsulated terminal with the strain relief crimp. I'd use heat shrink.
Ferrules aren't hard to find but that one looks like a portion of a terminal.

 

[Sno-Pro]

The second is a makeshift wire ferrule. It started life probably as a female terminal, crimped and then snipped off. There’s evidence where the terminal screw was.

 

[cpakalolo]

You could also just tin the wires that have a ferrule if the terminal doesn't need the ferrule for size. Ferrules are sometimes used to keep the strands together while it is being handled. They may use anything as a ferrule. The spade connectors are easy to get. If you can only find them with colored insulators; you can just use your wire strippers to carve them off. Buying wire terminations can be pretty expensive, difficult and just plain confusing.

 

[theoldwizard1]

There are actually 3 different sizes of spade connectors (NOT wire sizes, physical size of the terminal it self).

1/4" (6.3mm)
3/16" (4.8mm)
1/8" (2.8mm)

1/4" is the most common. Finding the other 2 can be a challenge !

 

[NHtoolguy]

A type of crimp terminal that also grips the wire insulation is trade-named PIDG (Pre-Insulated Diamond Grip) from AMP (now TE Connectivity). These provide effective strain relief but also require a special controlled-cycle crimping tool with two separate dies. I believe these terminals are typically used in higher-vibration environments.

PIDG terminals are available from multiple industrial sources. Crimpers with dies, while expensive new, can be found on ebay at much lower prices.

 

[theoldwizard1]

A type of crimp terminal that also grips the wire insulation is trade-named PIDG (Pre-Insulated Diamond Grip) from AMP (now TE Connectivity).

Personally, I prefer non-insulated connectors. That way I can can use dual wall heat shrink for better reinforcement.

Segue - I like TE Connectivity because they allow small orders and (last time I ordered) did not charge for shipping !

 

[zimman]

Most auto parts stores of hardware stores have these. Why use the internet?
Zim

 

[cannuck]

tend to buy from 2 sources: automotive stuff from HD trailer suppliers and AC from an electrical/electronic specialty store. Amazon/online stuff is not worth the crapshoot. Also: buying from commercial sources you can and must be sure to have correct tooling for what you are buying.

 

[PCustoms]

Most auto parts stores of hardware stores have these. Why use the internet?
Zim

Because generally the stuff stocked at the hardware stores and auto parts stores is trash meant for bubba who needs to crawl under the back of his clapped out truck and fix the scotch lock and ball of duct tape so he can haul his boat down to the catfish hole this weekend

 

[theoldwizard1]

Most auto parts stores of hardware stores have these. Why use the internet?

Questionable quality.

 

[zimman]

Questionable quality.

Not if you're good at what you do. I've never had a failure in all the 150mph cars I've wired.
Zim

 

[theoldwizard1]

Not if you're good at what you do. I've never had a failure in all the 150mph cars I've wired.

You may have used hardware store connectors, but you covered them in heat shrink ! Big difference.

 

[zimman]

You may have used hardware store connectors, but you covered them in heat shrink ! Big difference.

Thanks for playing the game. You've done well.
Zim

 

[cannuck]

Thanks for playing the game. You've done well.
Zim

Like your bus bars, but where's the ground on black side? Heat shrink makes for nice strain relief but if long term and especially in corrosive environment doesn't seal end of wire conductor from long term damage. I fully understand that is a condition that is probably tolerable in this case.

 

[zimman]

Like your bus bars, but where's the ground on black side? Heat shrink makes for nice strain relief but if long term and especially in corrosive environment doesn't seal end of wire conductor from long term damage. I fully understand that is a condition that is probably tolerable in this case.

Haven't installed this panel yet and thinking of some modifications. Ground would go off the black buss to the chassis and battery. Power for the ECM is direct to the battery because that's the way the company wants it. This is Edelbrock and Holly does the same thing to prevent a catastrophic disconnect during a running situation causing the biggest fricking backfire ever seen. LMAO
Zim

 

[4xdog]

I get most of my connectors -- TE Connectivity whenever I can -- from DigiKey. With Mouser or DigiKey be prepared to spend a LOT of time filtering all the nearly-identical options to find exactly what you want

And get a decent crimp tool as well, @Northern_Lights. With the right connector and tool you'll be able to make the conductor+insulation two-part crimps you were looking for.

 

[theoldwizard1]

Heat shrink makes for nice strain relief but if long term and especially in corrosive environment doesn't seal end of wire conductor from long term damage.

That is why they make "marine"/"dual wall" heat shrink. The inside melts, independent of of the outside, and makes a seal.

 

[theoldwizard1]

I get most of my connectors -- TE Connectivity whenever I can -- from DigiKey. With Mouser or DigiKey be prepared to spend a LOT of time filtering all the nearly-identical options to find exactly what you want

I order directly from TE Connectivity. They accept orders for small quantities. If you say you are from a company, they will even send you some (5-10) samples.

My preference is TE Solistrand Sadly, they do not have spade terminals in that product line.

 

[tyromeo55]

There are actually 3 different sizes of spade connectors (NOT wire sizes, physical size of the terminal it self).

1/4" (6.3mm)
3/16" (4.8mm)
1/8" (2.8mm)

1/4" is the most common. Finding the other 2 can be a challenge !

Also, In the battery world (like small SLA alarm and UPS batteries) they will refer to the 1/4" size as an F2 and 3/16" size as an F1

 

[Lorydr]

I know it's not broken off unless they did that on purpose as part of the OEM factory assembling process. As far as I can tell, it just crimps all the copper stands together so they easily fit into the terminal and can be clamped down with a single screw to make the connection.

That would be a ferrule for what you describe.

 

[Dagny]

3M and stacon cost more but better.