The documentation did turn out rather well, thank you. I bet I'd taken twice as many pictures before and during if I had to do it over. I've got several more coming up.
Thomas
Above 1200 Sq/FT Restored 1930's Auto Shop
- Thread starter BB767
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
The documentation did turn out rather well, thank you. I bet I'd taken twice as many pictures before and during if I had to do it over. I've got several more coming up.
Thomas
Omphaloskeptic
Well-known member
Thomas,
Not being qualified to even be an 'armchair aviator', I can only imagine what it must be like to truly fly by the seat of your pants in the Champ! Even with the advent of the 'sport pilot' qualification, I'll probably only fly in my dreams; you are indeed a fortunate man
Once again, congratulations to you and yours on a spectacular restoration! It is outstanding and one-of-a-kind even without the 'Fort-o-Sol' glass pool/landing platform. lol
I wonder if the management of SFO would let you 'borrow' their Arrow-Sport-F hanging in their atrium so you and your son could take the loft-lines? How does he like the idea of working with aircraft grade spruce? What a father&son project that would be!
Keep those pictures and details coming - we love it.
May you NEVER have to execute the 'Sully'!
Not being qualified to even be an 'armchair aviator', I can only imagine what it must be like to truly fly by the seat of your pants in the Champ! Even with the advent of the 'sport pilot' qualification, I'll probably only fly in my dreams; you are indeed a fortunate man
Once again, congratulations to you and yours on a spectacular restoration! It is outstanding and one-of-a-kind even without the 'Fort-o-Sol' glass pool/landing platform. lol
I wonder if the management of SFO would let you 'borrow' their Arrow-Sport-F hanging in their atrium so you and your son could take the loft-lines? How does he like the idea of working with aircraft grade spruce? What a father&son project that would be!
Keep those pictures and details coming - we love it.
May you NEVER have to execute the 'Sully'!
Motown 454
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I love the air pumping ststion. Reminds me of when I was a kid.
A quick update on the Walker floor jack project.
These are the front "hubcaps" from it.
They were dented from careless installation over the years. The dents have been removed and they're presentable now.
They install on the front wheels and keep the grease that is used to lubricate the front wheels from getting contaminated.
There are grease zerks on the inside of each front wheel. The hub cap on the outside contains that grease.
This concludes all the repair work needed on the jack. Now what is left is the powder coating. The powder coater and I have been sending color samples back and forth to the powder company to get a match. We're getting closer but not there yet. Probably have to have it custom mixed when it's all said and done which is fine with me. My goal is to match the original color scheme as close as possible.
More to follow.......
Thomas
These are the front "hubcaps" from it.
They were dented from careless installation over the years. The dents have been removed and they're presentable now.
They install on the front wheels and keep the grease that is used to lubricate the front wheels from getting contaminated.
There are grease zerks on the inside of each front wheel. The hub cap on the outside contains that grease.
This concludes all the repair work needed on the jack. Now what is left is the powder coating. The powder coater and I have been sending color samples back and forth to the powder company to get a match. We're getting closer but not there yet. Probably have to have it custom mixed when it's all said and done which is fine with me. My goal is to match the original color scheme as close as possible.
More to follow.......
Thomas
markviii
Well-known member
Wayne,
Those air pumps are pretty cool, especially when they make the "pinging" noise as the air pressure rises. Good memories with that noise along scavenging bottles to take to the store for the refund to use on penny candy (remember the "dots"?). Back in the 50s and 60s, we didn't have such a thing as an allowance, so turning in pop bottles (I know, it's soda or "sody-fizz" to some) was a profit center (we just called it "found money").
Superlifted06FX4,
Thanks for sticking it out until the "end" which is a moveable target. It took you so long to get there because you were looking elsewhere on GJ and taking time to post. That's okay, though. We thoroughly understand. This place is so full of great info. It appears that Lowell is near to Morocco where Tom somethimes goes to "test and tune".
Enjoy!
Chris
Those air pumps are pretty cool, especially when they make the "pinging" noise as the air pressure rises. Good memories with that noise along scavenging bottles to take to the store for the refund to use on penny candy (remember the "dots"?). Back in the 50s and 60s, we didn't have such a thing as an allowance, so turning in pop bottles (I know, it's soda or "sody-fizz" to some) was a profit center (we just called it "found money").
Superlifted06FX4,
Thanks for sticking it out until the "end" which is a moveable target. It took you so long to get there because you were looking elsewhere on GJ and taking time to post. That's okay, though. We thoroughly understand. This place is so full of great info. It appears that Lowell is near to Morocco where Tom somethimes goes to "test and tune".
Enjoy!
Chris
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Superlifted06FX4
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I joined cause someone on another forum posted pics of the Terraplane. I've also been doing homework as well, lol.
Thomas,
I am always looking forward to your floor jack restoration updates. Looks like your repairs are coming along nicely. I'm sure we will all be quite amazed when your work has been completed on this project.
Here's one of my jacks that I was finally able to finish:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78014&highlight=jack
I am always looking forward to your floor jack restoration updates. Looks like your repairs are coming along nicely. I'm sure we will all be quite amazed when your work has been completed on this project.
Here's one of my jacks that I was finally able to finish:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78014&highlight=jack
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markviii
Well-known member
Everyone will be amazed when (if) work is ever completed on this project at the 5-acres! (or were you just referring to just the floor jack restoration which is coming to a conclusion, I think?) It's been so fun that we don't want it to end. Then what would we do with our "spare" time?
My picture framing/gift shop/gallery opened yesterday, so I have plenty of indoor work for the winter. Tom has plenty of indoor work projects, too. Just don't let it snow too soon! We had 70 degree weather the past two days, 40s the next two and potentially our first dusting of snow on Thanksgiving. I got spoiled with the warm weather!
Chris
My picture framing/gift shop/gallery opened yesterday, so I have plenty of indoor work for the winter. Tom has plenty of indoor work projects, too. Just don't let it snow too soon! We had 70 degree weather the past two days, 40s the next two and potentially our first dusting of snow on Thanksgiving. I got spoiled with the warm weather!
Chris
Superlifted06FX4
Well-known member
I am not looking forward to the snow we have coming. I still need to get some work done in my garage. I can't wait to see more updates.
Amitygravel
Well-known member
Chris
You opened a gift shop/gallery ? Where is it located and what days / hours are you open ?
Thomas
Did anyone come up with any details one the Al Jerauld 2 carb adapter? I was watching a show on the HD
Network called American Icon : The Hot Rod. They showed an Edelbrock intake called the "Slingshot".
It looked identical to the Al Jerauld. I wonder , who was the 'knock off' ?
Craig.
You opened a gift shop/gallery ? Where is it located and what days / hours are you open ?
Thomas
Did anyone come up with any details one the Al Jerauld 2 carb adapter? I was watching a show on the HD
Network called American Icon : The Hot Rod. They showed an Edelbrock intake called the "Slingshot".
It looked identical to the Al Jerauld. I wonder , who was the 'knock off' ?
Craig.
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here's a pic and info of the Edelbrock Slingshot
http://www.edelbrock.com/media/news/2008/automotive/110408-2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edelbrock#Slingshot
Definitely looks similar!
Looks like the Jerauld versions were limited edition pieces:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5882454
(note: he uses BB767's pics in his thread!)
http://www.edelbrock.com/media/news/2008/automotive/110408-2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edelbrock#Slingshot
Definitely looks similar!
Looks like the Jerauld versions were limited edition pieces:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5882454
(note: he uses BB767's pics in his thread!)
Amitygravel
Well-known member
Wow! Around 50 pieces made in the late 40's ! And our good friend Thomas has (had ?) What looks like an unused cast iron piece of gold. In retrospect , I guess I should have offered my truck in trade the day Thomas showed it to me !!
Craig and skjain2, thanks for the question and information. I was going to wait a little bit to update everyone on the Al Jerauld manifold but I can release some information on it now I suppose.
It started with my original post #1286 on page 65 back in June. I posted a couple of photo's of it and it was quickly identified. Then there was post # 1650, page 83 a few months later plus I received the following email from that same gentleman:
This is the message:
Hello
My name is -------- ---------
I saw you posted 2 photos of a old after market 2 to 1 carb /manifold adaptor about a year ago.
It was marked AL JERAULD National City Calif on the side.
I'm a auto shop teacher in San Diego Calif area.
I'm very interested in buying this item
Here is the reason I want it !!!!!!
My boss , a auto shop teacher himself is Al Jerauld's step son. He worked at Jeraulds speed equipment when he was a teenager.
I want to buy this carb adaptor for him as a retirement present, He has taught auto shop for 38 years. He collects old speed equipment & he has spoken of the carb adaptor his step father use to make & has said how much he would love to have one....
I think this will make a wonderful gift for a man the I respect & who has given his life to teaching so many kids about cars , motorcycles, engines & hot rods
Jacob is one of those teacher that is in teaching because he loves to work with the kids.
He would badger NHRA every year for free tickets & a bus to take the whole auto shop class to the Pamona drags evey year.
Jacob started a high school drag racing program in San Diego & if the administrators hadn't shut the program down.
We only need one more school it join to program & the kids could have gotten a high school letterman jacket in drag racing.
Well the all mighty dollar being the bottom line, they are shutting down the industrial arts program & Jacob has decided to retire
This manifold adaptor is a piece Jacob has talked about for years. He told me if I ever see one ... GET IT !!!!!
So I think this will be the perfect retirement gift ....
His step father , Al Jerauld made these in his shop back in the the day along with many other hot rod parts.
He ran Jeraulsd's Speed Equipment in National City for many years & is one of the hot rod pioneers in San Diego.
Although his business never took off like a lot of So-Cal speed shops. Al Jerauld put his equipment to the test at El Marage & Bonniville
Al still holds the land speed record for O class belly tank race cars.
PLEASE CONTACT ME ASAP...
...so I did.
-Well I thought that email was rather interesting so I called him and he immediately said "let's get right down to brass tacks, what's it going to take to buy that manifold?"
It was then I told him sorry, but the manifold was not for sale.
His reply was " you're just trying to jack up the price, now come on, it's got to be for sale what's it going to take."
Once again I firmly stated that there was no amount of money that could buy that manifold.
..........silence.............. but I then continued with...
" I won't sell it you but I will give it to you. A man with that background in teaching kids, being the stepson of the creator of it needs to have it. It's my gift to Jacob.".........the phone was completely silent for a moment as that sunk in.
He then said quietly that was the nicest thing that's happened to him in a long, long time.
This was his email follow up to that phone conversation...
Thomas
> Words can't describe how I feel right now.
> Your gift of this manifold adaptor to my buddy Jacob Bagnell is one of the coolest things to happen in a long time.
> Jacob has talked about getting one of these as long as I have know him.
>
> I look forward to meeting you & I know Jacob will want to meet you.
> Thank You !!!!!!!!!.
-Here's another email I received after the manifold was shipped to California....
Thomas
Well I delivered the manifold to Jacob today, He had no clue I had gotten the manifold from you...
My Son , Daughter & I went to Jacobs house under the pretext of looking at old race car photos &
taking photos of model A parts Jacob wants me to sell on ebay. When we got there we left the manifold in the car ,
We went in & talked for a while. Then I told my son , "I left my phone in the car... will you go get it for me."
That was our signal for him to go get the manifold, He walked back into the house with the manifold hid behind his back ,
He snuck up & handed it to Jacob for behind. My son said " What do you think of this old man...
Jacob was speechless... ( for the first time since I've known him. LOL )
After a few minutes of starting at it , Jacob said , "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME" . I'm not sure but I think I saw a tear in his wife's eye..
I explained it was a gift from you & all Jacob could say is "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME" & " How can I ever thank this guy"
He walked around for most of the afternoon with the manifold in his hand..... You made a old gear head VERY HAPPY
Well I guess I misunderstood Jacob when he was talking all these years about this manifold Al Jerauld made ,
I thought Jacob had seen many of them back in the day. Well come to find out , These manifolds were a bit before Jacob
started working for Al Jerauld. They had one on display at Jeraulds Speed Shop in National City, but thats the only one Jacob ever saw...
BUT he had heard all kinds of stories about the "Y MANIFOLD" from Al Jerauld & his partner George Barber. When Al Jerauld passed away
one of Al's racing buddies took it as a memento when they cleared out the speed shop. Jacob tried to get it back but it never happened.
Jacob has been on a 50 + year search looking at auto swap meets & junk yard for another one.
I asked Jacob how many of these manifolds did Jerauld make??? Jacob said they only made 50 of them. It was a big hassle dealing with
a local foundry , so Al Jerauld only had one batch of these made. So it is amazing that we found this one!!!!!!!
......more email.....
The manifold was PERFECT , as I said you made a old Gear Head happy
We have old 3 bolt carbs , but Jacob now has me looking for a set of Stromberg 97 & some chrome scoops LOLOLOL
Thanks again
.....and still another email....
Thomas
You have no idea what you have started by sending the Al Jerauld manifold adaptor.
He has had it lightly bead blasted , the lettering done in red & had it clear coated.
It is mounted on a black piece of marble & he is now looking for 2 97 Strombergs , 2 carb scoops & linkage
This thing is going to be the center piece of his collection!!!!
Jacob is also now on a quest to find the old Jeraulds Belly Tank land speed car.
Jacob & I are going to Fountain Valley calif this friday to talk to a bunch of old dry lake guys & go through their records
We may be crazy... but we are having FUN
Thanks again
- And that my friends is the power of the internet. After that backdrop and all those years, that manifold was sitting quietly on a shelf in an old repair shop in the Midwest waiting to be reunited with the family that created it. I was going to restore the flathead V8 and use that adaptor on it. Once I found out about Jacob Bagnell I knew immediately it belonged to him, I was just the time bridge between Mr.Johnson and Jacob finally owning it. If you've read this post this far thanks for sticking with me on this. There is a bit more to this story but I'm saving that for a later time. The world is much smaller than we know.
As to my restoration work on and in the shop...I may be crazy...but I am having FUN...
Thomas
It started with my original post #1286 on page 65 back in June. I posted a couple of photo's of it and it was quickly identified. Then there was post # 1650, page 83 a few months later plus I received the following email from that same gentleman:
This is the message:
Hello
My name is -------- ---------
I saw you posted 2 photos of a old after market 2 to 1 carb /manifold adaptor about a year ago.
It was marked AL JERAULD National City Calif on the side.
I'm a auto shop teacher in San Diego Calif area.
I'm very interested in buying this item
Here is the reason I want it !!!!!!
My boss , a auto shop teacher himself is Al Jerauld's step son. He worked at Jeraulds speed equipment when he was a teenager.
I want to buy this carb adaptor for him as a retirement present, He has taught auto shop for 38 years. He collects old speed equipment & he has spoken of the carb adaptor his step father use to make & has said how much he would love to have one....
I think this will make a wonderful gift for a man the I respect & who has given his life to teaching so many kids about cars , motorcycles, engines & hot rods
Jacob is one of those teacher that is in teaching because he loves to work with the kids.
He would badger NHRA every year for free tickets & a bus to take the whole auto shop class to the Pamona drags evey year.
Jacob started a high school drag racing program in San Diego & if the administrators hadn't shut the program down.
We only need one more school it join to program & the kids could have gotten a high school letterman jacket in drag racing.
Well the all mighty dollar being the bottom line, they are shutting down the industrial arts program & Jacob has decided to retire
This manifold adaptor is a piece Jacob has talked about for years. He told me if I ever see one ... GET IT !!!!!
So I think this will be the perfect retirement gift ....
His step father , Al Jerauld made these in his shop back in the the day along with many other hot rod parts.
He ran Jeraulsd's Speed Equipment in National City for many years & is one of the hot rod pioneers in San Diego.
Although his business never took off like a lot of So-Cal speed shops. Al Jerauld put his equipment to the test at El Marage & Bonniville
Al still holds the land speed record for O class belly tank race cars.
PLEASE CONTACT ME ASAP...
...so I did.
-Well I thought that email was rather interesting so I called him and he immediately said "let's get right down to brass tacks, what's it going to take to buy that manifold?"
It was then I told him sorry, but the manifold was not for sale.
His reply was " you're just trying to jack up the price, now come on, it's got to be for sale what's it going to take."
Once again I firmly stated that there was no amount of money that could buy that manifold.
..........silence.............. but I then continued with...
" I won't sell it you but I will give it to you. A man with that background in teaching kids, being the stepson of the creator of it needs to have it. It's my gift to Jacob.".........the phone was completely silent for a moment as that sunk in.
He then said quietly that was the nicest thing that's happened to him in a long, long time.
This was his email follow up to that phone conversation...
Thomas
> Words can't describe how I feel right now.
> Your gift of this manifold adaptor to my buddy Jacob Bagnell is one of the coolest things to happen in a long time.
> Jacob has talked about getting one of these as long as I have know him.
>
> I look forward to meeting you & I know Jacob will want to meet you.
> Thank You !!!!!!!!!.
-Here's another email I received after the manifold was shipped to California....
Thomas
Well I delivered the manifold to Jacob today, He had no clue I had gotten the manifold from you...
My Son , Daughter & I went to Jacobs house under the pretext of looking at old race car photos &
taking photos of model A parts Jacob wants me to sell on ebay. When we got there we left the manifold in the car ,
We went in & talked for a while. Then I told my son , "I left my phone in the car... will you go get it for me."
That was our signal for him to go get the manifold, He walked back into the house with the manifold hid behind his back ,
He snuck up & handed it to Jacob for behind. My son said " What do you think of this old man...
Jacob was speechless... ( for the first time since I've known him. LOL )
After a few minutes of starting at it , Jacob said , "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME" . I'm not sure but I think I saw a tear in his wife's eye..
I explained it was a gift from you & all Jacob could say is "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME" & " How can I ever thank this guy"
He walked around for most of the afternoon with the manifold in his hand..... You made a old gear head VERY HAPPY
Well I guess I misunderstood Jacob when he was talking all these years about this manifold Al Jerauld made ,
I thought Jacob had seen many of them back in the day. Well come to find out , These manifolds were a bit before Jacob
started working for Al Jerauld. They had one on display at Jeraulds Speed Shop in National City, but thats the only one Jacob ever saw...
BUT he had heard all kinds of stories about the "Y MANIFOLD" from Al Jerauld & his partner George Barber. When Al Jerauld passed away
one of Al's racing buddies took it as a memento when they cleared out the speed shop. Jacob tried to get it back but it never happened.
Jacob has been on a 50 + year search looking at auto swap meets & junk yard for another one.
I asked Jacob how many of these manifolds did Jerauld make??? Jacob said they only made 50 of them. It was a big hassle dealing with
a local foundry , so Al Jerauld only had one batch of these made. So it is amazing that we found this one!!!!!!!
......more email.....
The manifold was PERFECT , as I said you made a old Gear Head happy
We have old 3 bolt carbs , but Jacob now has me looking for a set of Stromberg 97 & some chrome scoops LOLOLOL
Thanks again
.....and still another email....
Thomas
You have no idea what you have started by sending the Al Jerauld manifold adaptor.
He has had it lightly bead blasted , the lettering done in red & had it clear coated.
It is mounted on a black piece of marble & he is now looking for 2 97 Strombergs , 2 carb scoops & linkage
This thing is going to be the center piece of his collection!!!!
Jacob is also now on a quest to find the old Jeraulds Belly Tank land speed car.
Jacob & I are going to Fountain Valley calif this friday to talk to a bunch of old dry lake guys & go through their records
We may be crazy... but we are having FUN
Thanks again
- And that my friends is the power of the internet. After that backdrop and all those years, that manifold was sitting quietly on a shelf in an old repair shop in the Midwest waiting to be reunited with the family that created it. I was going to restore the flathead V8 and use that adaptor on it. Once I found out about Jacob Bagnell I knew immediately it belonged to him, I was just the time bridge between Mr.Johnson and Jacob finally owning it. If you've read this post this far thanks for sticking with me on this. There is a bit more to this story but I'm saving that for a later time. The world is much smaller than we know.
As to my restoration work on and in the shop...I may be crazy...but I am having FUN...
Thomas
Omphaloskeptic
Well-known member
Thomas, a good deed well done. Bravo!
bazzateer
Well-known member
Cool - 'nuff said.
gasgas17
Well-known member
Nice! Very nice indeed.
Amitygravel
Well-known member
Thomas
What an awesome story!!!
The world is indeed so small sometimes. To think such a significant piece of high performance parts
ended up in a blacksmith shop located in a tiny little town on the prairies of central Illinois is almost beyond
belief. To think of the wealth of knowledge and information that was lost when Mr Johnson went on.
to a higher place is staggering.
Thomas , forgive me but I must say this;
To all fellow GJ members , I used to manage a night club smack dab in the middle of the U of I
campus in Champaign. I dealt with people in the music industry from all over the world. Booking agents ,
road managers , and of course musicians. Being located in the heart of a major university I was around a very diverse group of people as well
Thomas , you sir are the kindest most generous and giving person I have ever met. You have stunned us all
with so much information on the history of Johnsons Welding. Your documentation of your restoration
of the property , the treasures that you uncovered , and rebuilds of some of those items.
Twice I have been to that now world renowned property and Thomas has given myself and two
other people a great deal of his very valuable time a grand tour of the entire propery. I have also been
a recepient of Thomas' generosity , the go-kart jig now sits inside my back door (yes, its in my house!)
awaiting its own resoration and return to service!
Thomas , you have provided so many of us with such a great deal of inspiration , enterainment
and knowledge. Now I dare say your generosity is yet another source of inpiration for us.
Maybe we should lobby Ryan to award Thomas an EDITORIAL PLATINUM WRENCH for his
contribution to the forum.
Thomas again THANK YOU !!!!! Oh , Happy Holidays too !
Now about that pool.
Craig.
What an awesome story!!!
The world is indeed so small sometimes. To think such a significant piece of high performance parts
ended up in a blacksmith shop located in a tiny little town on the prairies of central Illinois is almost beyond
belief. To think of the wealth of knowledge and information that was lost when Mr Johnson went on.
to a higher place is staggering.
Thomas , forgive me but I must say this;
To all fellow GJ members , I used to manage a night club smack dab in the middle of the U of I
campus in Champaign. I dealt with people in the music industry from all over the world. Booking agents ,
road managers , and of course musicians. Being located in the heart of a major university I was around a very diverse group of people as well
Thomas , you sir are the kindest most generous and giving person I have ever met. You have stunned us all
with so much information on the history of Johnsons Welding. Your documentation of your restoration
of the property , the treasures that you uncovered , and rebuilds of some of those items.
Twice I have been to that now world renowned property and Thomas has given myself and two
other people a great deal of his very valuable time a grand tour of the entire propery. I have also been
a recepient of Thomas' generosity , the go-kart jig now sits inside my back door (yes, its in my house!)
awaiting its own resoration and return to service!
Thomas , you have provided so many of us with such a great deal of inspiration , enterainment
and knowledge. Now I dare say your generosity is yet another source of inpiration for us.
Maybe we should lobby Ryan to award Thomas an EDITORIAL PLATINUM WRENCH for his
contribution to the forum.
Thomas again THANK YOU !!!!! Oh , Happy Holidays too !
Now about that pool.
Craig.
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Hemihead2
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Thomas -
The 'rest of the story' on the manifold just made my day. The world needs more folks like you and your wife.
Thanks for sharing it all.
Mike
The 'rest of the story' on the manifold just made my day. The world needs more folks like you and your wife.
Thanks for sharing it all.
Mike
JC23
Well-known member
Thomas,
Like your thread, add me to the list of folks moved by what you did. Yes, I know to you it was the only thing to do and it just happened to be the right thing to do. But by doing so, you have truly paid it forward and we all know how that works. Who knows, you may be rewarded with a nice shop project or two in the future.
Oh, wait, that's already happened. Man, this whole time and space thing really messes me up.
Bottom line: You done good and we would expect nothing less from you...
Like your thread, add me to the list of folks moved by what you did. Yes, I know to you it was the only thing to do and it just happened to be the right thing to do. But by doing so, you have truly paid it forward and we all know how that works. Who knows, you may be rewarded with a nice shop project or two in the future.
Oh, wait, that's already happened. Man, this whole time and space thing really messes me up.
Bottom line: You done good and we would expect nothing less from you...
Bob Heine
ALLIANCE MEMBER
It's nice that paybacks aren't always a *****. Thanks for everything you do.
Thomas,
I have been following this thread for what seems forever,and have been amazed at how generous you have been in sharing this amazing story.
What you have gifted Jacob,has me sitting here with a lump in my throat.In such a selfish world it is a rare & wonderful thing to to know that there are still such unselfish people as youselves.
Thank you
I have been following this thread for what seems forever,and have been amazed at how generous you have been in sharing this amazing story.
What you have gifted Jacob,has me sitting here with a lump in my throat.In such a selfish world it is a rare & wonderful thing to to know that there are still such unselfish people as youselves.
Thank you
sids04
Well-known member
Thanks so much for this thread ! I love seeing all of the old automotive service tools. My Dad owned gas stations when I was a kid growing up in the 70's. I spent most of my childhood there. My wife thinks I am nuts when I tell her about my love of the Shell three bay colonial station or a vintage Phillips 66 station with a big awning.
When I saw the Sun Engine analyzer I almost cried. My Dad also had the matching distributor machine. He also had the same power bleeder. Thank you again for taking the time to share your amazing project.
Rob
When I saw the Sun Engine analyzer I almost cried. My Dad also had the matching distributor machine. He also had the same power bleeder. Thank you again for taking the time to share your amazing project.
Rob
JC23
Well-known member
One more thing, Thomas, you don't need to answer our messages about what you did. We know you're sitting there smiling and feel ing good. And that's good enuf for us.
Right guys?
Right guys?
Call me the Breeze
Well-known member
"What goes around, comes around" And Thomas / Chris, I believe the Blessings you give will come back to you 100 fold, as if they haven't already. You are good people, and I am glad we got to know you, even though we've never met.
Motown 454
Well-known member
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Way to go Thomas. If you were closer I'd shake your hand!
hoopty388
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only 50 of a vintage speed part made? has to be worth a fortune.
you did better than make a fortune you completed a lifetime.
here's a toast to you and those of us that look out for others.
thank you and god bless.
you did better than make a fortune you completed a lifetime.
here's a toast to you and those of us that look out for others.
thank you and god bless.
Superlifted06FX4
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I must say, there are getting to be fewer and fewer people like you in the world. My hat is off to you sir.
rrudd2
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One more thing to be thankful for this Thanksgiving..... that there are still people like Thomas in this world...
rlwhitetr3b
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Around here old automotive generators from the 1930s, 40s and 50s have no value.
The local rebuild shop hauled truckloads off for scrap, qnd at a estate auction, no one wanted ANY so a guy got a 10X20 room full of shelves full of starters and generators for $10.
They are heavy and generally one cannot find a buyer.
I havent counted mine but dont want them either
hobbitss
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Manifold Re: Restored 1930's Auto Shop
Treasures found at the bottom of a mountain of scrap....
Excellent true story, please keep the story going, I for one would like to know if they find the belly tank racer..... Will it race again???
Major Positive Carma coming your way....
If I lived closer I'd take some of the extra structures off your hands...
Thank you for the time and effort invested in this thread... I leave it open in a browser window at home and at work and refresh as needed to see what is new...
Extra Stuffing and Turkey for you today...
Tools!!!.... sorry that just popped out...
Treasures found at the bottom of a mountain of scrap....
Excellent true story, please keep the story going, I for one would like to know if they find the belly tank racer..... Will it race again???
Major Positive Carma coming your way....
If I lived closer I'd take some of the extra structures off your hands...
Thank you for the time and effort invested in this thread... I leave it open in a browser window at home and at work and refresh as needed to see what is new...
Extra Stuffing and Turkey for you today...
Tools!!!.... sorry that just popped out...
Thomas, your generosity in material and knowledge truly seems boundless, but what impresses me most of all is your care for an individual and his dream. Bravo. You have my deepest respect. I'm giving thanks today that there are still people like you out there!
Here's one for "Dug" the tool lover (one of several here I would guess ) who has been so very patient waiting for more tools to show up here.
These are but a few of the hand tools that remained after the family removed all the ones they wanted.
As I've mentioned before they seemed to take the "newer" ones and left the older ones, thankfully for me.
Most of these wrenches are pretty big and beefy. Besides being large nut and bolt sizes, they are thick, heavily made. Look at the one on the far left for example, see how thick the shoulders are around the openings top and bottom. Maybe the nut and bolts they were made for were physically thick or wide. I suppose it's also possible with older metallurgy they needed to be thicker to compensate for poorer quality steel.
I'm guessing they were used in tractor work mainly. Were automotive tools of the 30's and 40's made like this?
These two more modern specialty wrenches on the right are aluminum. Anyone recognize what they might have been used for? Prop shaft on an outboard motor??
Besides removing the rust not sure what might be the proper way to recondition them. Some of them show evidence of paint. If they're just left raw steel they'll rust again eventually. I think any surface protection that was on them originally is long gone. Any thoughts out there on what might be the best way to keep them in shape. While I don't plan on using them on a regular basis, if I need them, anything in the shop is there to work.
Some specialty hammers.
This one I really don't know what it was designed for? Both faces look like this.
This wrench caught my eye. As you know Mr.Johnson was a blacksmith. This 12" adjustable wrench is made by the "Diamond Calk Horseshoe Co., Duluth Minn." That's a new manufacturer for me. Maybe they're quite famous, but I've never heard of them. Some of the other tools have manufactures names on them, just haven't really looked that close at them yet.
A specialized end on these pliers/cutters.
Anyone who can help out and identify the uses of any tools seen here, as always, feel free to please help us out.
Anyone who has done "stick" arc welding has used these to chip the old slag off a new weld. Just looking at them brings back that distinctive sound to me. When a lot of work was going on in the shop years ago, the air would be filled with the sizzle of the welder, the smell of welding smoke, followed by the clinking sound of the weld being cleaned up with these hammers.
I do have a bunch more tools that I'm bringing back to light. As you've seen I'll get them posted on here as I am able. Thanks again for all of your interest and support as I continue with the history and resurrection of this shop.
Thomas
) who has been so very patient waiting for more tools to show up here.
These are but a few of the hand tools that remained after the family removed all the ones they wanted.
As I've mentioned before they seemed to take the "newer" ones and left the older ones, thankfully for me.
Most of these wrenches are pretty big and beefy. Besides being large nut and bolt sizes, they are thick, heavily made. Look at the one on the far left for example, see how thick the shoulders are around the openings top and bottom. Maybe the nut and bolts they were made for were physically thick or wide. I suppose it's also possible with older metallurgy they needed to be thicker to compensate for poorer quality steel.
I'm guessing they were used in tractor work mainly. Were automotive tools of the 30's and 40's made like this?
These two more modern specialty wrenches on the right are aluminum. Anyone recognize what they might have been used for? Prop shaft on an outboard motor??
Besides removing the rust not sure what might be the proper way to recondition them. Some of them show evidence of paint. If they're just left raw steel they'll rust again eventually. I think any surface protection that was on them originally is long gone. Any thoughts out there on what might be the best way to keep them in shape. While I don't plan on using them on a regular basis, if I need them, anything in the shop is there to work.
Some specialty hammers.
This one I really don't know what it was designed for? Both faces look like this.
This wrench caught my eye. As you know Mr.Johnson was a blacksmith. This 12" adjustable wrench is made by the "Diamond Calk Horseshoe Co., Duluth Minn." That's a new manufacturer for me. Maybe they're quite famous, but I've never heard of them. Some of the other tools have manufactures names on them, just haven't really looked that close at them yet.
A specialized end on these pliers/cutters.
Anyone who can help out and identify the uses of any tools seen here, as always, feel free to please help us out.
Anyone who has done "stick" arc welding has used these to chip the old slag off a new weld. Just looking at them brings back that distinctive sound to me. When a lot of work was going on in the shop years ago, the air would be filled with the sizzle of the welder, the smell of welding smoke, followed by the clinking sound of the weld being cleaned up with these hammers.
I do have a bunch more tools that I'm bringing back to light. As you've seen I'll get them posted on here as I am able. Thanks again for all of your interest and support as I continue with the history and resurrection of this shop.
Thomas
willy3486
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The best way I have found to clean rusty tools is to use Electrolytic rust removal. Its really easy to do. I use it to clean parts and tools I redo. People in this area where I live that collect civil war items like belt buckles uses it to clean stuff. I just bought a bucket of rusted up tools to help a lady out, she was trying to get rid of them after she inherited them from her dad. They had at one time had water in the bucket they were in and completely rusted up. I used it to clean a few adjustable wrenches like you have. Most of the wrenches were rusted up totally and ready for the junk pile. They would not turn they were so rusted. I run the process on them. One was completely rusted up but I was able to get it so clean the screw that holds the round piece you spin with your thumb was able to be taken out. I completely dissasembled it and cleaned it.
In that lot of tools I got about 3-4 adjustable wrenches,3-4 original vise grips,assorted other stuff,pliers, and even a couple of wire strippers. I was able get every piece I bought cleaned and useable. I was able to even get linesmans pliers,wire cutters,vise grips that were rusted completely and get them loose as well. I also use it to rebuild motorized tools as well. I used this method to get a old 40s delta lathe dissasembled. I used it with a 40s delta shaper and even tried it on its bits. I had a jug of cutters with it that had rain to get into the jug. The bits were imersed in water completely. I ran them through this for the heck of it. And many even became sharp. Not enough to rely on but good enough to get cut. Its amazing how well it works.
What it does it to run current through the piece your cleaning and a sacrafical piece. It works the opposite of electrplating. It makes the rust particles loosen up. It doesn't add metal but the doesn't remove it. After you take it out the metal will be black where the rust is. I usually wash it off and rub it will a scotchbrite pad. If it has any shine left it will. But if it is chromed sometimes it will remove it , but with the vise grips I didn't notice it removing it. I ran some window vent pieces when I redid my truck. It removed that chrome. Its a really good method and saves me a lot of elbow grease.
Check this site out for cleaning rust. It explains it well.
http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/rust/electrolytic_derusting.htm
In that lot of tools I got about 3-4 adjustable wrenches,3-4 original vise grips,assorted other stuff,pliers, and even a couple of wire strippers. I was able get every piece I bought cleaned and useable. I was able to even get linesmans pliers,wire cutters,vise grips that were rusted completely and get them loose as well. I also use it to rebuild motorized tools as well. I used this method to get a old 40s delta lathe dissasembled. I used it with a 40s delta shaper and even tried it on its bits. I had a jug of cutters with it that had rain to get into the jug. The bits were imersed in water completely. I ran them through this for the heck of it. And many even became sharp. Not enough to rely on but good enough to get cut. Its amazing how well it works.
What it does it to run current through the piece your cleaning and a sacrafical piece. It works the opposite of electrplating. It makes the rust particles loosen up. It doesn't add metal but the doesn't remove it. After you take it out the metal will be black where the rust is. I usually wash it off and rub it will a scotchbrite pad. If it has any shine left it will. But if it is chromed sometimes it will remove it , but with the vise grips I didn't notice it removing it. I ran some window vent pieces when I redid my truck. It removed that chrome. Its a really good method and saves me a lot of elbow grease.
Check this site out for cleaning rust. It explains it well.
http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/rust/electrolytic_derusting.htm
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Superlifted06FX4
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We've rebuilt 2 starters for a 1926 or 36 Dodge, a model A, and a lot of other classics. My boss is the type who takes that stuff and holds on to it. If we can get it cheap/free, we take it.
Older'n dirt
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That hammer looks like a meat tenderizer and the pliers/cutters look like ferrier tools (for removing horseshoe nails).
BTW, do you have room for an Evinrude outboard motor?
BTW, do you have room for an Evinrude outboard motor?
My grandfather had a hammer like that with the pattern on both heads. He used it as a meat tenderizer, though I dont think that was the intended purpose. The red handled pliers are used as fencing pliers, with the top part used to pull staples and the sides used to cut barbed wire. The 3 "nipper" pliers (lower left) look like what are used to trim horse hooves.