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Hello Thomas !
With that anvil now in the shop, there just might be a few 'sightings' out of the corner of your eye on those projects that
go extra late into the night!

On those plow points and planter blades, my first thought was the folks up in Penfield

. Do the boxes have any indication as to what alloy they are ? If they are a plain high carbon steel that is in a high enough carbon range for heat treatment , they might be something a bladesmith would be interested in. Putting them up on auction might be a good idea.


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tomas and chris, your little thread here is truly inspiring:bowdown:.
I have fully read it from 1 to 103 and am truly inspired by the way you have transformed your little piece of paradice at the center of the universe.:bounce:
I have forwarded the link on to many of my friends here in brisbane , australia so your down under fan base is growing even more.
Thank you for all the detail and keep up the amazing work.:thumbup:

toranaback, it sounds like you're in great shape for the upcoming quiz if you've fully read everything. Good man! :thumbup: Thanks for increasing the Aussie fan base, you can never have too many friends down there. Appreciate the words of encouragement. You'll find you're always welcome here and more is on the way...

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Hello Thomas !
With that anvil now in the shop, there just might be a few 'sightings' out of the corner of your eye on those projects that
go extra late into the night!

On those plow points and planter blades, my first thought was the folks up in Penfield

. Do the boxes have any indication as to what alloy they are ? If they are a plain high carbon steel that is in a high enough carbon range for heat treatment , they might be something a bladesmith would be interested in. Putting them up on auction might be a good idea.


Craig

Craig I bet you're viewing this on your Blackberry so the box images are pretty small. They don't show the steel make up but the plow points are Wiese No 2500 repair plow points. I would guess those are harder than the planter runners which are No 1300 made by Osmundson. Wiese and Osmundson are still both in business so a call to them would probably answer that question. That's a great "thinking outside of the box" observation. Thank you.

Getting the anvil out of the lean-to was the first step. Now I've go to get it cleaned up and ready for use, 'cause we all know how handy they are to have around....don't we. :dunno:

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Ok, I just spent time over about 5 days going through this while thread. Simply amazing what you have done Thomas, and with the support of your wife Chris no less. I only hope that I'm able to do something like this one day as I'm sure it's been quiet the adventure. Your attention to detail is outstanding. I'm looking forward to many more posts and updates on the treasures you find and what you do to bring them back to their working glory.

Hello cdrewferd. Without the loving, enthusiastic support of Chris this just wouldn't have happened, period, end of story. It didn't hurt to have a willing son helping out also. To call it an adventure is highly accurate. Day to day we never knew what to expect and even today it continues. Recently viewing those old home movies (except the honeybee parts) was mighty cool. I got a glimpse of the property and shop from over 50 years ago. Some of these were taken before we even moved to this area.

At first I was a little concerned that I was putting out too much detailed information that everyone might find boring but that doesn't seem to be the case. I am committed to restoring as much of the shop and equipment as I can and give them useful lives once again. For those who want to see this ongoing work, just check back in here. Thank you for taking a moment to share your thoughts with us.

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One man's junk is another man's treasure! You've found some awesome stuff in there. Very interesting.
 
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Thomas,

I've been following your thread for some time now, but have not posted until now. I commend you for taking on such a project and think it's wonderful that you've kept a garage with so much history alive, and still use it for it's intended purpose. Great work!

I have two thoughts on the brackets welded to the bottom of your lift (as you showed on page 100 of the thread). On the same page you show an original ad for Rotary Lift which shows (and briefly mentions) a "drain bucket holder" that can swing out of the way. Might the brackets be used for something similar? I know the holes and orientation of the bracket might be a bit off for this use, but maybe not?

My second thought was the bracket was used to hang a strap or chain fall for heavy lifting of objects or pulling motors out of vehicles. I'm not sure if there's enough room in the garage to position a vehicle to do that, or if the modification was done before the building was put up around the lift.

Anyways, those are just my thoughts on the brackets. Keep up the great work and thanks for documenting everything for us!

~Neil

Another lurker exposed!! Neil, doesn't it feel good to just come clean. Admitting an addiction is the first step in the cure. :)

Key in your observation is "still using it for it's intended purpose." That was and is the driving force behind getting the shop in the first place and getting it up and running as quickly as possible.

The idea that the brackets were to hold a drain bucket or something similar has merit. I'd forgotten that Rotary did offer that as an option. Knowing the budget they were working with out there I'm sure they would have just made their own, rather than buy it. They were quite self sufficient , witness the home made garden tractor.

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My hope is to discover a picture showing the bracket in use. There are two other brothers that at some point I'll be talking with and will get their recollections but that might be several months from now. It is puzzling, but then that's part of the fun of this adventure. Thanks for being part of it Neil.

Thomas
 

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. the home made garden tractor.

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My hope is to discover a picture showing the bracket in use. .

Thomas


The bracket on the lift could very well have been for a one time use.

The tractor photos show a 1935 Ford wire wheel, one of the most desirable of old Ford wheels, The other rear wheel was used from 1940 to 1956 and is in demand by old Ford lovers.
The transmissions appear to be Model A Ford transmissions, excellent for anyone with a Model A.
The Model T changed the world but the Model A is perhaps the most loved of all old Fords and any parts are valued.
The rear axle is possibly valuable Ford parts too , the pic shows Ford brakes but no picture shows it well.
The steering wheel appears to be Ford and the steering box is probably valuable Ford parts too. The flywheel and clutch are Ford parts and the world is full of small engine enthusiasts who would like to have the one cylinder Clinton engine.


The tractor seat often sells in antique shops for $28
 
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Right now I kinda wish I had that manifold and the rest of the tank too... We're covered with 2' of snow here in the sunny south of Sweden, and waiting for Santa to swing by and give us a lift...
Merry Christmas to y'all!

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Surely that is a homemade ball peen, correct? I can imagine a factory ball peen that long and really cant imaging ever needing one that long, but shined up and maybe a soft covering for a handle, it would look unique hanging on the wall. It may even become useful a time or two.
When it comes to the beekeeping movies, wasn't there a member on here that their daughter just got an award for making a movie or short film on beekeeping? It may be if interest to them. And if they are worth watching, it may be worth getting them converted over to Compact Disc.
I don't check on this thread everyday like I did originally as checking everyday takes the fun out if it. I like to check maybe once a week to be able to see all of the changes that have went on in that short of span time. It's kind of like watching a show on Modern Marvels or Discovery. :lol_hitti
If I can remember correctly, the bracket on the lift may well be for a safety leg. I remember my BIL's fathers lift and he always had a safety leg that dropped down in case the hydraulics crept or gave out. But I'm not sure if it was under a ramp or if it fastened back by the cylinder. We'd raise the lift, drop the support down, then drop the lift so the support had pressure on it. I kind of remember that the support also kept the lift from wanting to rotate like some does
 

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Those beekeeping videos might be of major interest to other beekeepers or to those trying to figure out what is happening to the honeybees.

Maybe not.

I would start checking around.
 

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OK, here a "bone" for you Dug. I'll get more on later.

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This may be the world's longest hammer handle??? :dunno:

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Comes in at about 42 1/2" (little over 1 meter) of pure whacking pleasure. The head is nicely fitted and quite secure. Someone took great effort to create this. At first I thought it had something to do with his forge and staying away from heat, but there's no evidence of the head or handle being near great heat so that's probably not right, plus it's a small ball peen. I'm open to any thoughts on this one. I've found another stash of hand tools that the long handled hammer was in now uncovered that I'll get on here.

2.000 posts and 100 pages........I've GOT to get an index going for this thread..... :sad:

Thomas

Hey Thomas,
Did the old blacksmith walk with a cane? Ever since a botched spine surgery I had 4 years ago, I've had to walk with a cane. I could see the long-handled hammer making a pretty cool cane. Chromed, polished, rubber tip on the end... sure beats the generic geriatric version at Walgreens!
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Hey if you want any resources for those beekeeping movies here are a few I found after a quick search. I'm sure there's tons more but maybe you can get something from these. The last one seems like it might be the best bet if somebody is looking for old movies to reference while researching Colony Collapse Disorder

http://www.beesource.com/forums/index.php
http://www.beekeepingforums.com/
http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php
http://www.wncbees.org/forums/forums.cfm?conferenceid=2D689334-1372-527D-08E7E0D978B6AAF5

http://www.biobees.com/forum/
 
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It's Christmas eve and all but I started this yesterday and didn't get it finished and posted till now. I wanted to get an update on here. This is a follow on to some of the pictures taken in 2005 when I had just bought the property. Before's and afters...

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You've already seen this but here's a recent ....

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...picture from 5 years later. I'm trying to get the same approximate prospective for all the following pictures. So the before pictures are all from fall, 2005 and the afters are from fall, 2010. Everything following will be 5 years apart.

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The addition of the car port alters the way the shop looks now but look at the block wall and you''ll see tuck point repairs on the upper part of the wall which are the same in both pictures.

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This of course, is pretty much the reverse angle of the above two pictures. We had cleaned out just enough of a path to be able to start to see what needed to be cleaned up...everything!!

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Once the brush was removed this is what you would have been able to see.

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The west side wall of the original shop. In the foreground was his outside metal storage shed. Note the chimney for the forge. This wood wall was replaced with...

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... concrete block and the lawn installed with landscaping. The trees are horn beam. Note there are now two metal chimneys for the two furnaces in this area of the shop and I removed all three windows which were in this section.

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This is the reverse angle for the above picture, the block area jutting out was his coal room.

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The covers are for the septic. The coal room turned into the bathroom.

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This is the backyard, behind the house. Here's what you can't see....

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...in the background is the family home and to the right the honey house.That tree is a Hackberry, tough as nails. Behind me was where he had all his bee hives, over 75 at one point. I've got plenty of movies showing them in action, plenty. :rolleyes:

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The shop can now be seen in the background. The place where I stood to take this picture is about the same place I found Mr Johnson's name tag 3 years earlier laying face up on top of the grass.

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2005

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2010...It's hard to see but on the limb on the left (going up to form a Vee) has a rod going through it into the main trunk in the center.

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It might show up better here.

Mr Johnson placed several rods and cables in this tree to prevent the limbs from breaking off. I'm not too sure when he did it, but it's been at least 40+ years now. It's a practice frowned on now but back then "cabling" trees was widely done. Seems to have worked here. When we build our house that Hackberry will be in my front lawn.

That's it for today. Let me wish everyone out there all the very best holiday cheer. I expect to be back here tomorrow at some point, but right now Chris tells me she hears something on the roof so I better go "check" it out. :D

Thomas
 
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Thomas and Chris ,
Thanks again for all the great photos and the time you have given to all of us on the GJ.
Hope you have a wonderful and safe Holiday season.
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!

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Hey Thomas,
Did the old blacksmith walk with a cane? Ever since a botched spine surgery I had 4 years ago, I've had to walk with a cane. I could see the long-handled hammer making a pretty cool cane. Chromed, polished, rubber tip on the end... sure beats the generic geriatric version at Walgreens!
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Aside from the cane idea, which I'd like to do myself, the only use for a long-handled small ball peen hammer would be for reaching into an enclosed space, such as a steel tank, where your reach would be limited to maybe getting only your arm into a very large tank, and hammering out dents from the inside. You would heat the dented area from the outside, and then hammer out the dents from the inside.
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Thomas and Chris,

Thanks to both of you for a truly great thread! This has been a year of change for many people; a good number being GJ members, I'd wager. It's been a real nice diversion to be able to come to this site and see a bit of history being preserved and renewed with such care. Thanks for sharing.
Happy holidays to you and yours.xmas
 

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A special Merry Christmas to everyone who's shared our journey this past year on Garage Journal (especially Ryan for doing such a nice job keeping up this site). Stick with us...there's still more to discover! We have more fun in store (and, don't forget, a test to prepare for) for the new year.

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow! Our son-in-law's flight got canceled due to the snow, so he and our daughter and our son will get to spend Christmas Day with us. Yea! We'll have the traditional meal of a special soup, spaghetti or tortellini (for the vegetarian daughter), ham, salad, deviled eggs, and something chocolate for dessert.

We can all take a break from studying, working in our garages and shops (and writing tests) for at least one day, right? Tom threatened to sneak away and post something here tomorrow --- we'll see about that!

Santa will have a nice snowy roof to land on tonight, but he has Rudolf so I'm not worried he'll find his way!

Be safe all,
Chris
 
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Got a nibble, whats the part # on the manifold? 7 or 8 digit #?

We had 6" of snow last night for a really white Christmas this morning. Not as bad as Paul in Sweden I know but still.... The manifold is in the lean-to and those doors swing out. I'll have to dig at least one out to get in there for that information. They might also be frozen to the ground, what with frost heave and all. It's a foreign concept for Californians I know, but what it means is it might be a while before I can answer you.

While you're waiting you'd have time to fly out here and start your practice paste work on the anvil though. :dunno: Wouldn't want you to get bored. Redoing your new buggy wrench will not take you long at all. Always looking out for your best interests my friend. :)

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Surely that is a homemade ball peen, correct? I can imagine a factory ball peen that long and really cant imaging ever needing one that long, but shined up and maybe a soft covering for a handle, it would look unique hanging on the wall. It may even become useful a time or two.
When it comes to the beekeeping movies, wasn't there a member on here that their daughter just got an award for making a movie or short film on beekeeping? It may be if interest to them. And if they are worth watching, it may be worth getting them converted over to Compact Disc.
I don't check on this thread everyday like I did originally as checking everyday takes the fun out if it. I like to check maybe once a week to be able to see all of the changes that have went on in that short of span time. It's kind of like watching a show on Modern Marvels or Discovery. :lol_hitti
If I can remember correctly, the bracket on the lift may well be for a safety leg. I remember my BIL's fathers lift and he always had a safety leg that dropped down in case the hydraulics crept or gave out. But I'm not sure if it was under a ramp or if it fastened back by the cylinder. We'd raise the lift, drop the support down, then drop the lift so the support had pressure on it. I kind of remember that the support also kept the lift from wanting to rotate like some does

How does that go again, don't call me Shirley! Yes Kevin, it was specialty made in the shop. I'll be keeping it alright. You just never know when you might need a 3 1/2' long ball peen hammer.

The 8mm movies staring the bees I don't think would be terribly useful. Maybe with Martin Scorsese directing but not as is, really don't think so.

Wondered if you were still lurking about? :)

Thomas
 
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Those beekeeping videos might be of major interest to other beekeepers or to those trying to figure out what is happening to the honeybees.

Maybe not.

I would start checking around.

Maybe not. I've seen them and, well.... maybe not. :sad: 8mm as a medium is hard enough, but with little tiny black things zooming all over the screen...maybe not. :dunno: Occasionally you'll see a loop or a roll even an Immelmann, but if he had filmed a bee doing a Lomchavoc or a hammerhead stall then we'd really have something. But as is.... not so much. Thanks for the thought anyway.

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Hey Thomas,
Did the old blacksmith walk with a cane? Ever since a botched spine surgery I had 4 years ago, I've had to walk with a cane. I could see the long-handled hammer making a pretty cool cane. Chromed, polished, rubber tip on the end... sure beats the generic geriatric version at Walgreens!
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No Bill he didn't but what an original thought. Ya, chromed and polished, one of a kind for sure!

Thomas
 
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Hey if you want any resources for those beekeeping movies here are a few I found after a quick search. I'm sure there's tons more but maybe you can get something from these. The last one seems like it might be the best bet if somebody is looking for old movies to reference while researching Colony Collapse Disorder

http://www.beesource.com/forums/index.php
http://www.beekeepingforums.com/
http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php
http://www.wncbees.org/forums/forums.cfm?conferenceid=2D689334-1372-527D-08E7E0D978B6AAF5

http://www.biobees.com/forum/


Wow there is a bunch of "stuff" on the net about bees isn't there? Thanks but they'd only have interest to family members I'm certain.

Thomas
 
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Here's a follow up on a shop project. I took some of this scrap tubbing that was left in the shop......

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...and fabricated it as you recall, by mitering the corners so the open ends wouldn't show....

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... bolting rubber tired casters on...

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... turning it into a cart to set my tractor snow blower on. Here's how that turned out...

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...after it was...

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...powder coated John Deere yellow to match the blower.

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The lifting ring I made to lift the blower onto the cart.

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Now by myself, I can easily move that blower which weighs close to 400 lbs. So some more old material from Mr Johnson has been converted into something useful and should live a long life.

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The following are more pictures taken by my daughter in fall, 2005 and then pictures from the same area recently, fall, 2010.

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This is the east side of the lift room. Look closely and the tops of the windows can just be seen about the center of the block wall. At the far end away from the camera is the metal storage shed for sheet metal. Foreground right are several old oil storage tanks that were brought to the property for scrap. Philo installed natural gas lines in the village, early in the 1960's. When homes then converted to natural gas heat, the old oil tanks in the basements were removed. A few wound up out here.

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After the clean up, same view. Since this is late fall all the ground cover has browned up and gone dormant. This all greens up in spring and is rather pleasant looking. The trees are, furthest away, white oak, and closest, a hackberry. They provide terrific shade for the shop in the summer.

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This is a close up of the sheet metal storage shed. Here the rear door to that storage shed is open and pieces of various sized, galvanized sheet metal pulled out. In the back ground are the windows in the lift room. a few broken.

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An even closer view.

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The shop is to the back of the camera here. The lean-to and tool shed to the right. On the tool shed, far right top, look for the diagonal supports in the tool shed door opening....

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...look for those same diagonal supports to help orient the picture with the before picture. Those piles of dirt are from the grade work done on the barn last fall. I skimmed off the top few inches of dirt because it had so much rock in it. I then replaced it with good black dirt. When the family home is removed that dirt will be used as fill in the basement depression.

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This is the east side of the two car garage and the tool shed. You just can't see very far since the property was so overgrown.

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While it was neat to have all that wild natural growth everywhere it did present it's own set of disadvantages. I have already started to selectively replant better choices of plants to create a more manageable woods environment.

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The sign out front, 2005.

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2010

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2005

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2010.

There is more in the works coming.

Thomas
 
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Very nice.... but of course. The yard the wrench came from that you posted all the pictures from is a very dangerous place for me. I just want to save it all and restore it! So much to save and so little time! :sad:

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...after it was...

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...powder coated John Deere yellow to match the blower.

Jeez, my idea of dressing something up is to hit it with a can of the $.99 spray paint from Wally World!

I hope your powder coating guy at least sent you a Christmas card!
 
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