Bosch 12 volt Impact

[makgreens]

Curious to see if anyone has one on here because im looking at getting one for work

ive got a 4 volt mastercraft screwdriver that "works" but it just doesnt really get the job done and ive seen some bosch's around the shop and some craftsman one but the craftsmans have no balls behind em

any suggestions for a small impact thats fairly cheap?

 

[X1 Mike]

I love the Milwaukee M12 system, I have the impact, right angle drill, and drill driver. I buy them when a deal comes up and have averaged about $60-65 per tool for new or reman tools. Now I have my eye on the regular drill, borescope, and mini-sawzall.

 

[makgreens]

Will the impact break bolts loose pretty easy?
The bosch has a ton of torque so id be worried about killing something putting it back on

 

[X1 Mike]

It will break bolts loose but you have to remember what size it is. If you use it for its intended purpose it works great, if you expect to remove lug nuts you will hate it. I would say from only trying the Bosch out a couple of times that they are equals.

 

[whatsitsname]

Depends on what you are working on. Trim bolts and engine pan bolts are fine. Wood bolts and screws are fine. Engine work and brake jobs not so good.

 

[nato]

Will the impact break bolts loose pretty easy?
The bosch has a ton of torque so id be worried about killing something putting it back on

Um, no...it won't "break" anything. I've got the 12v Litheon Max #ps-41. It's a beast, but it won't destroy or break anything when loosening or tightening due to the spring 're-coil' feedback absorbing system it has. It's not like a traditional pneumatic impact mechanism. It'll remove anything up to it's claimed 77 ft/lbs. I checked the max torque rating to verfiy and although the little impact hung on an 18mm castle nut for about 10 or so seconds, it pulled it right off. It used almost half the charge though on a fresh, fully charged battery.
I used it this past week to reomove an upper intake manifold on a Ford 4.6l in an '07 F150, as well as other numerous <13mm fasteners....it worked great. i'm happy w/ the purchase.
It does ahve its' limits though....

 

[makgreens]

Yeah its mainly for engine covers,oil pans and so on

Don't think I. Freally need 800 inch pds for that haha..might have to look into the m12 series

 

[makgreens]

I'm also cuous about the makitas

I've been very impressed with my 18v impact and driver so I might just look at those

 

[Aklass]

I have both the 10.8 and 12v Bosch 1/4" impacts, I use them mostly for screwing in wood/sheet metal, and stubborn screw on cars. I haven't had a problem with mine at all

 

[mossyboy6]

take a look at the flex impact drivers.

 

[Up And Down]

Um, no...it won't "break" anything. I've got the 12v Litheon Max #ps-41. It's a beast, but it won't destroy or break anything when loosening or tightening due to the spring 're-coil' feedback absorbing system it has. It's not like a traditional pneumatic impact mechanism. It'll remove anything up to it's claimed 77 ft/lbs. I checked the max torque rating to verfiy and although the little impact hung on an 18mm castle nut for about 10 or so seconds, it pulled it right off. It used almost half the charge though on a fresh, fully charged battery.
I used it this past week to reomove an upper intake manifold on a Ford 4.6l in an '07 F150, as well as other numerous <13mm fasteners....it worked great. i'm happy w/ the purchase.
It does ahve its' limits though....

nato,
Any chance that you will upload a YouTube vid showing what this tool can and cannot do and what spots it can get into? Any vids of tools in action are very helpful to everyone.

Thanks

 

[TheGrooveking]

The Milwuakee M12 38 impact 2451 has 1,000 in lbs., were as the M12 impact driver has 800 in.lbs. of torque. Also make sure you guys get impact ready/capable drive adapters if you are using impact drivers. I've had Irwin brand 1/4" hex to 3/8" drive adapter that the 1/4" hex section peened over to the point were it would not come out of the check, yet it would slip even when trying to drive in #14 self drilling/self tapping screws.

TheGrooveking

 

[Dallus]

I have the Bosch Litheon 12V impact and I LOVE it! I use it all the time and comes in handy on skidplate bolts. I also use it to take the plastic covers off wheels before hitting it with the big boy impact to take the lug nuts off. I work in a quicklube so anything to make my job easier/faster is a good thing!

 

[american lockpicker]

I love the Milwaukee M12 system, I have the impact, right angle drill, and drill driver. I buy them when a deal comes up and have averaged about $60-65 per tool for new or reman tools. Now I have my eye on the regular drill, borescope, and mini-sawzall.

I don't recommend the minisawzall. I know a HVAC guy who has one and its underpowered and slow.

 

[truckdriver]

I have the 12V Bosch and loved it but retired it in favor of the Milwaukee M12, mostly so I could get the Milwaukee grease gun. I like both of them.

 

[whatsitsname]

I do recommend the mini hackzall. It cuts through copper pipes, pcvs, tree branches, nails, and wood without any problem. Its quite fast for its size. Can't expect it to cut through a 2x4 with the same pace and efficiency as a full size sawzall.

 

[american lockpicker]

I do recommend the mini hackzall. It cuts through copper pipes, pcvs, tree branches, nails, and wood without any problem. Its quite fast for its size. Can't expect it to cut through a 2x4 with the same pace and efficiency as a full size sawzall.

Its terrible for steel rod.

 

[Monte]

The Bosch 10,8 (12) Volt mini saw will be available in 2011

 

[whatsitsname]

The Bosch 10,8 (12) Volt mini saw will be available in 2011

I wonder if these are not the same tool underneath.

 

[Dallus]

Oooooh is there an ETA for the Bosch saw?

Would make replacing wear rings in jet skis 10000x quicker!!!

 

[Damian]

I've personally never used a 12v impact that impressed me. They're ok for under-dash work or zipping off 8-15mm misc bolts here and there, but they don't have any real power from my experience. My Dewalt battery impact is a real impact with some cojones. Makes a 12v Impact look like a screw driver.

 

[Dallus]

I've personally never used a 12v impact that impressed me. They're ok for under-dash work or zipping off 8-15mm misc bolts here and there, but they don't have any real power from my experience. My Dewalt battery impact is a real impact with some cojones. Makes a 12v Impact look like a screw driver.

A 12v impact driver isn't going to zip off a crank pulley bolt or 90% of lug nuts I encounter. I have an 18v behemoth for that. But when you need to remove a oil or trans pan with 20+ 10mm bolts, you can get it done in no time. Plus my 18v gun weighs 3 or 4 times what my 12v does. I don't want to hold that up overhead whilst zipping off 20 bolts on a pan.

You just have to have realistic expectations of the tool.

 

[Monte]

I wonder if these are not the same tool underneath.

Looks similar but i don´t think so.

Oooooh is there an ETA for the Bosch saw?

April 2011 in Germany. I don´t know about the US, sometimes earlier (like the bench top woodworking saws) sometimes later than here.

 

[makgreens]

Went ahead and bought the drill/impact set so I'm anxious to try it out at work

 

[Up And Down]

Went ahead and bought the drill/impact set so I'm anxious to try it out at work

I am looking forward to hearing your opinion on that set makgreens. What is the item number of the kit and do you mind sharing what you paid?

 

[makgreens]

CLPK27-120

and i paid 179.99

hopefully it was worth it
seeing that just the impact was 139 so for 40 bucks more i got the drill/driver too

 

[IndyGarage]

I've got both the Bosch 12v driver and impact and the equivalent Milwaukees. I also have the Milwaukee Hacksall.

I've had the Milwaukees for a couple years, but a few months ago Bosch came out with their newer, faster, more powerful models, and I saw a set on Black Friday with a ridiculously low price, so I bought them to use at my workshop.

The new Bosch units are way more powerful, and much faster running, but after using them for a couple months - not extensively, but enough to get a feel - I still like the Milwaukees better.

For some reason the Bosch units just don't seem to be made as well. First, there is a delay when you pull the trigger. It's slight, but noticeable. Second, the forward/reverse switch seems to have a lot of play in it - often I have to mess with it to get it to work right. Third, the quicklock chuck on the Bosch's aren't as good, and this may be a problem with mine only - but a couple times when I left the driver out in the cold garage, it wouldn't work at all. This happened this weekend. I picked up the milwaukee and it worked fine. The Bosch driver doesn't have the battery gauge - which curiously is included on the Impact and is on all the Milwaukee units.

Also, it may just be me, but it seems the Milwaukees have better battery life - of course that may be due to the fact that the Bosch's do have more power and speed.

I'm looking forward to the next gen Milwaukees, that are surely going to be released this year.

As far as the hacksall - I have a mixed review. It does accomplish light duty cutting way faster than you can do it by hand, and it is way more compact than a sawsall. I've used it to cut copper and PVC tubing and for a multitude of other small jobs. It's not very powerful though. It vibrates like crazy and the battery life is pretty bad. On my last use, mine developed the habit of shutting off after about 5-10 seconds of cutting - I recharged the battery and it stopped, then later it started doing it again - must be an electronics problem. I was really looking forward to it when I bought it, but I've been a bit disappointed.

 

[Up And Down]

CLPK27-120

and i paid 179.99

hopefully it was worth it
seeing that just the impact was 139 so for 40 bucks more i got the drill/driver too

That seems like a good deal. Please let us all know how you like it and how it performs in the garage.

 

[makgreens]

Well, got a chance to use the impact and drill at work today and I'm very glad I bought em
Besides the slight delay they work very well, hopefully ill get to test em more this week

 

[whatsitsname]

I would have gotten the Bosch. It has a lot more powerful the Milwaukee, Makita, and Hitachi. I only returned mine because they don't have the extensive line of 12v tools as Milwaukee does. They certainly have a better tool line than the other brand's 12v series.