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carzilla

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May 2020 update: I am using the 74x80 building and adding a large addition to create a 20,000sq.ft. custom car and restoration shop. If the photos in this post disappear, it is because I stopped paying photobucket for hosting and you can find all phase 1 construction photos on my website. Phase 2 construction photos are there too. Both sets of photos and videos are on the "take a shop tour" page. I make daily updates to the shops Facebook page and updates to the website are made less frequently.
http://bluecollarmusclerods.com/
https://www.facebook.com/BlueCollarMuscleRods/

October 2010: Hello everyone, this is my first crack at posting so I have my fingers crossed. I built this garage in October-November of 2010. It's finished now. I wanted to post photos as it was going up but work and family used up my available time. That hasn't changed but I figure if I don't start sharing, it will never happen. The building has a 74'x80' foot print with a 16' ceiling and a 20'x80'x8' upstairs. I went with the 16' ceiling because if I ever buy a lift or a large RV, I wanted 14' tall doors so I didn't regret it later on. I went with the upstairs because I have a small house and we have so much junk, I needed someplace to store all of it. I compared a larger building with the added concrete to the cost of the attic trusses and it was about the same money. Thanks to fordsteel for the idea to build this barn. My wife saw that garage and had to have the upstairs. The dormers would add $1000 for each one and we decided that we didn't need them that bad but we went with two 5'x5' windows on each end with the round top in the upstairs to let in natural light. No insulation or electrical planned right now, we can't afford it unfortunately. This building is just for storage, we have another building that we use as a workshop that has a finished interior. I would like to heat this building some day. We have added to our car collection over the years and ended up storing a few at a storage facility. I never liked that arrangement not only because of paying rent but the cars were not under my care and I couldn't hop in them and drive up the road without making prior arrangements to meet the man with the key. Photos to follow. CZ
 
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sounds good so far. looking forward to more pics. you didn't mention what kind of HOT ROD.
Welcome aboard by the way.
 

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I'm new here myself, but hang around a few other forums and love seeing other garages and shops.... gives me all sorts of ideas for this end! Even without seeing pics yet, I'm already uber-jealous. Despite living in a rural area, the township I'm in must have used to have some old ninny ex-HOA members making up the rules. I'm not in a subdivision, nor a "structured" neighborhood- almost country. Most of the houses around me have 3-10 acres (I have just over one), but the largest "accessory structure" we can have is 1600 total sq.ft. (32x50) with a max highest point of 21'. And get this- technically, if you already had your new garage grandfathered in somehow- you wouldn't even be able to put up a garden shed or a lean to for your trash cans... nothing.

Can't wait to see your new digs. Wish I was at least "allowed" to build something like that on my property.... yeah, "my" property... right! :lol:

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First the boring stuff. Here's the site, it's level with the exception of the northwest corner which has to come up about 6'. The first photo is looking to the west.

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Here's the view looking southeast and you can see my house and workshop.

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Don't you love it when the machinery shows up? This is October 5, 2010.

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Top soil being removed. That's my 40'x64'x12' building in the background.

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October 6. Sand being brought in. I had the building set so that it was only 4" above the existing ground level. I didn't want to have steep approaches into the building but I didn't want water problems either.

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October 8. Working on leveling all that sand. I lucked out on the cost of the sand since the excavator was digging a pond for a guy and it was completely sand, no clay or topsoil. He didn't have anywhere to dump it so he brought it to me with no charge. I paid for the labor. The excavating took longer than I would have liked but he dug sand from the pond in the morning and then hauled it to my place in the afternoon.

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October 8

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October 11. All the site work has been completed. I asked the excavator to not tear up my yard and he did a great job.

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October 18. My builder was finally able to get down to my place to drill the post holes and stake out the site.

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October 22. Setting the first posts.

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October 22.

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10/22/10 This is what the footers look like. 24" diameter hole with 24" of concrete. The posts rest directly on this surrounded by sand.

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10/23/10 I apologize for the quality of some of the photos. The days are getting really short in October and sometimes the clouds kill the natural light

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10/23/10 This photo will make more sense later on. There is a 24'x80' lean to down the south side of the building. Most of it is not enclosed except for this 24'x24' section.

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10/25/10. Top of the walls getting installed.

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74 by 80! 74 X 80??? Sweet Baby Jesus!

This one's gonna be tough to beat. Don't let us down, 'Zilla.

And yes, what kinda hot rod?
 
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Sorry guys, no update today. I wasn't able to use the computer on my lunch break today. I'm out of the office on Wednesday and will post more photos on Thursday. I will be posting some hotrod photos too! CZ
 
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Interested in knowing about your rides. I am into "traditional" hot rods but I am not **** about the little stuff. Like using period correct brake hoses and hardware.
 

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Sorry guys, no update today. I wasn't able to use the computer on my lunch break today. I'm out of the office on Wednesday and will post more photos on Thursday. I will be posting some hotrod photos too! CZ

I think it's kind of a lame excuse, but we'll buy it this one time :lol_hitti
 
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carzilla

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I think it's kind of a lame excuse, but we'll buy it this one time :lol_hitti

I had knee surgery on Wednesday and it went very well. I don't have pain so I'm not taking the meds. I was worried about the meds making me sleepy. I'll work on more posts of the barn and cars today.
 
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I'm new here myself, but hang around a few other forums and love seeing other garages and shops.... gives me all sorts of ideas for this end! Even without seeing pics yet, I'm already uber-jealous. Despite living in a rural area, the township I'm in must have used to have some old ninny ex-HOA members making up the rules. I'm not in a subdivision, nor a "structured" neighborhood- almost country. Most of the houses around me have 3-10 acres (I have just over one), but the largest "accessory structure" we can have is 1600 total sq.ft. (32x50) with a max highest point of 21'. And get this- technically, if you already had your new garage grandfathered in somehow- you wouldn't even be able to put up a garden shed or a lean to for your trash cans... nothing.

Can't wait to see your new digs. Wish I was at least "allowed" to build something like that on my property.... yeah, "my" property... right! :lol:

Neal.

Hey Neal, I'm definitely spoiled with the flexibility my township provides with "your" property. When I built the first barn in 1995, I asked the building permit guy about the property line set back and he told me, quote "that's between you and your neighbor" Today, we have minimum set backs but it hasn't changed much. No size or height restrictions. The township supervisor is a farmer and the last thing he will do is impose anything like you are facing. I would like some of the home owners in my area to clean up their yards but I'm not going to raise a fuss since that will only come back to bite me. A friend had a similar problem to the size of the garage. His solution was a 24x40 garage with 11' ceilings. He used 2 16' doors on the 40' side. He installed four lifts so he could have 8 cars inside. The doors faced 90° to the street. The garage is attached to the end of the house and bricked to match. Is moving an option? Changing the building codes? The township that butts up to mine sounds just like yours. They have a noise ordinance that says you can't whistle walking down the street (no lie!) and it restricts the hours of the day farmers can run their equipment. It's a bunch of BS. CZ
 
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carzilla

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Looks great so far! That place looks huge! Are those laminated beams going down the sides up top?

Yes, those beams at the top are laminated, 2x18's. And they're a full 2", not 1.75". I tried to break one and it didn't budge. The posts are laminated also using 3 2x6's riveted/nailed together and the boards used at the bottom are pressure treated.
 
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carzilla

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Is there a reason you are using my initials, Eric? More Pix! Fast forward!
~Chad Z (CZ also)

zimpala.....your both using my initials! :)

Meet the real CZ's!!! Something about flattery.....

I have always liked the sound "CZ" and my first run in was in 1996 with a business out in Denver called CZ Courier - an expedited delivery service. Sorry, totally unrelated!

Chad, any super secret wrenching going on over there? I'm posting as fast as I can!! Fast forward? Come down for a visit!
 

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Okay, you had my attention with your screen name ---- BUT THEN, when I saw what you would be housing in the building, you totally roped me in. You've got some nice toys there.

I saw that you used the term "notchback" ---- so you must be knowledgeable about them. Most people, including me sometimes, use the term "coupe" instead. Technically, "notchback" is more correct.

Do you belong to any Fox Chassis forums?

I luvs Fox Chassis vehicles ---- all of them. Fairmonts / Futuras / Z7s totally ROCK ---- and the Fox Chassis Mustangs (and Capris) do too.

I have an '80 Mustang Coupe ---- a foureye.
 
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okay, back to the barn construction.

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50' main trusses. The builder said that these each weighed 1000 lbs. I built my 40'x64' myself in 1995 but I didn't have the equipment to build this one!

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these are the 24' trusses used for the lean-to down the south end

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10/26/10 Header going up over the south end garage doors.

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Two things in this photo. First, notice how the builder notches the top of the post for the top plate - this keeps the inside wall flush with the posts. Second, the 2x6 laminated post.

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This was something new to me. Notice along the top of the wall and you will see 2x6's sticking up above the top wall. These 2x6's are nailed/riveted in between the top plate (another reason the post is notched for the top plate) Then the trusses are nailed to the 2x6. The builder said that the little metal "tornado clips" that the warehouse home improvement stores sell are not going to hold the roof on in the event of high winds. Seeing how all of this is fastened together, it's a big improvement over those flimsy clips. Take the extra time and do this on your new construction.

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10/27/10 The clouds part and let in the sun! The top plate is all done on the entire building.

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Now we are getting serious. Lean to trusses being moved into position. This photo is taken at Noon.

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These guys rock. Four guys set all those trusses in 5 hours.

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10/28/10 I love this photo. Coming home at 5:45 as I drove around the corner 1/2 mile from the house, this is what I saw. Oh jeez, that's H-U-G-E!

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You can see how rural my area is. The new barn makes the 40'x64' barn look like a 20'x40' garage!


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Now your starting to get a picture of the overall design

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This is the front facing East. On the right is the builders RV. Four guys are staying in that RV and they work from dawn to dusk. Sometimes they even have me pull cars out there with the headlights on.

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Still 10/28/10, 6:00 in the evening. Time for sheeting? Why not!

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10/29/10 The view up the road at lunchtime

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Road signs are often stolen out here or used for target practice or used for floors in race cars... your tax dollars at work.

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Enough for today? CZ
 
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Why didn't you build a big barn? Thats some serious space there. Should have enough room for your horses (Fords).
 
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carzilla

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Why didn't you build a big barn? Thats some serious space there. Should have enough room for your horses (Fords).

Barn is HUGE! Did you get Jerry Jones plans he used for Cowboy Statium?

Thanks! The reason I started construction so late in the year is that once I found GJ, there were just too many ideas and I couldn't decide what I wanted. I finally asked a guy at work to sketch my ideas on paper and it unfolded from there. Having the design on paper made it very easy for my builder to know exactly what I wanted. CZ
 
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carzilla

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Are those attic trusses? I don't think I've ever seen any with that great of a span. What are the dimensions of the attic space?

Yes, the trusses are an attic truss. Specifically, they are called a gambrel truss. Check it out here: http://www.dutchcrafttruss.com/trussdesign.html
My friend used gambrel trusses in his 32'x56' shop and I loved the storage space he has. His credo is if it doesn't have wheels it doesn't belong on the floor!

My attic space is 20' wide will a full 8' tall room. I had several options with the trusses. The first gave a 20' wide room but only a 6' side wall at the ends which is a standard attic style truss. The second was a full 8' tall room but only 15' wide and I wanted maximum storage. One truss company didn't even want to build the trusses and one builder said I had to have posts underneath. I absolutely had to have a free span to be able to maneuver the cars around. Something else I was surprised about, the difference between the standard attic truss and the gambrel truss was only $2000 so it made it an easy choice to go with the gambrel truss. The upstairs of my barn is bigger than my house, just the way it should be! CZ
 
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