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64merc

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Has anyone else had a chance to check out the new Pitsburgh Professional line of roto-head ratchets at HF? They are "similar" to the SK ones that I've seen online except that they have a plastic handle.

Now, I know I've also had my share of bad experiences with HF tools but these looked pretty nice for the money. I ended up buying the 1/4" one since I figured it wouldn't see too much torque applied to it. Besides, at about $12 and a lifetime warranty I couldn't resist. I haven't had a chance to use mine yet so I was wondering if anyone else has bought one yet.
 
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Actually, I used one just recently at a friend's house. It's absolutely great!! The professional line is excellent. Good feel and finish. I was quite impressed. Say what you will about HF, but SOME of their hand tools are getting to be quite competitve with Danaher products (Craftsman/Matco).


My buddy also had a set of their professional grade impact sockets, and they look better (finish wise) and sturdier than my MAC stuff. I questioned about a lifetime warranty, and sure enough, they are fully covered. SEARS better watch out, HF is coming on strong with their "Professional" branded hand tool line.

PS I like their "Professional" grade pliers too.
 

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I looked them over today, I'll wait for the sale. ;)

Store I go to was getting totally rearranged, more variety on the shelves, several of the new "fancy" plastic grip etc. items looked good. I stuck to my coupon list, ratcheting wire crimpers and a couple picks.
 
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64merc

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I know, I broke my rule about not buying anything from HF without a coupon or without it being on sale. :eek: Oh well, it happens.

And my store's ratchet/socket section was also being redone. Hopefully that means more "professional" line products.
 

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"Professional"

Damm the marketers are at it again. I cringed slightly when Craftsman did it. To be professional it will have to do what my not labeled professional PROTO, SK, WRIGHT's do.

Put on a adapter for the next size socket, pick a big one, find an old farm machine that has rust, anhydrous spray, and mud on it then get the 6 foot cheeter bar. If it survives days of it and is as smooth as it was when it started, then you can start with the word professional for my use.
 

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I think they mean professional "style", kinda like hot dogs sold as Kosher style (which means, no it aint kosher).
 

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I saw these too. Not sure what to think of them but they looked ok. The test will be the pins that hold it to the shank and the shank strength as it is split.

The Taiwan tools are getting to look much nicer.

I looked at the Duralast brand at autozone and these Taiwan sockets adn wrenches look nice with super smooth internal areas etc.
 

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96782-0VGA
Pittsburgh Professional 3/8" QUICK RELEASE SWIVEL HEAD RATCHET $14.99
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Pittsburgh Professional 1/2" QUICK RELEASE SWIVEL HEAD RATCHET $19.99
96781-0VGA
Pittsburgh Professional 1/4" QUICK RELEASE SWIVEL HEAD RATCHET $12.99
96587-0VGA
Pittsburgh 3/8" SPEED HANDLE RATCHET $14.99

**** last one is that rotator ratchet thing, so here is a real link,

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=96782
 

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The HF ratchet in the link reminds me of the Husky ones.

I bought a Duralast 3/8 extension when I was in a spot and nobody else in town had one. Their tools look nice, but their prices are on the same level as SK around here.

Coach
 

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Looked at the swivel head last time I was there, the finish and quality looked and felt pretty good. Haven't needed one too often, but might grab one if they go on sale.

Also today I used their ratcheting crimper (ITEM 93977-1VGA, $8 on sale) for the first time, works very nicely, better crimp than any of the standard combo stripper/crimpers I've ever used, regardless of country of origin or trademark. If it holds up, and the design is simple enough that I suspect it will, this is one of those HF tools that's a good value.
 

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I just purchased the 3/8" and 1/2" versions at HF yesterday. They were out of the 1/4" but I will get one later. I did not have any rotating head Ratchets and decided to get these to go along with all my Craftsman Ratchets.

To tell you the truth, these seem to be nicely made. I am impressed with the fit and feel of them and the ratchet mechanism seems nice. I guess time will tell how they perform but for $35 for the two, they seem like a great deal.

tj
 

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I will likely be taking my chances on one in each drive size as well as soon as the opportunity presents itself! The pic looks good and at those prices I will take my chances.
 
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I bought mine today, I think it looks and feels good! Just another accessory!

Cool. Are you going to leave it with the light oil it came with or are you going to use grease? It just seemed right to leave mine with oil, although I generally use grease on my ratchets.
 

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It's as bad as it sounds... I wasn't making it up....

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Let's see... Snap On: $101.00. HF... $14.99. Knowing that Merkava won't be bashing you for having a ratchet that ISN'T Snap ON... priceless. :bounce:
 

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The quality is that good??? Or is it that good of a deal?? I will have to venture over to HF and form my own conclusion.
 
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Cool. Are you going to leave it with the light oil it came with or are you going to use grease? It just seemed right to leave mine with oil, although I generally use grease on my ratchets.

I generally never do anything other than simply use new ratchets as they come, now old used ones that drag or need obvious attention are something totally different.

The quality is that good??? Or is it that good of a deal?? I will have to venture over to HF and form my own conclusion.

The quality and feel do strike me as good, certainly good enough to give then the $20.00 they wanted for it. The only thing appearance wise I would complain about are a couple of hokey looking yellow labels applied to the handles that I am stuck with (I could have done without those!) I have not been able to afford SO new for some years so the only alternative to the HF version for me would be SK and I don't know as though SK offers this ratchet in the 1/2" drive that HF does, last I knew SK only offered this ratchet in a 3/8" drive. Ya check out the HF ratchet I give it a thumbs up so far. Obviously I will be wrong if it takes a quick dump on me but I do not expect that! :beer:

I did not notice the 1/4" & 3/8" sizes available, I will plan on buying them as well!

BTW: As to Merkava pay him no mind on such matters! Some Snap-On witch doctor put a voodoo hex or something on him that really did a number on him! :spit:
 
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Is it alright to have too many ratchets??? If it's alright I'll buy a few of those as well.
 

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The absolute one thing I have too many of is ratchets.... So just to spite myself I went to HF and bought the 1/4 swivel head today for 12.99. I have the 1/4 Snapon one also.

Both the same length. The HF model is heavier.

The Snapon will receive a socket in any of the four directions and hold it in place, but does its best holding on the socket detent. The HF model will only receive a socket if the quick release button is depressed. Also the socket will pull right off the ratchet with minimal effort unless its on the socket detent, in which case no amount of pulling will allow a release unless the quick release is pressed.

The HF has a finger operated steel ball bearing quick release mechanism on its face that functions with absolute minimal pressure to engage and disengage. The Snapon has no quick release button on its face.

They both have a cross mounted allen head bolt in the shaft to set roto head tension. The Snapon's allen head looks sharp and straight, the HF's looks likes almost rounded out now, and its new.

The HF model took 72 clicks to make a complete turn. I had to restart several times because I floated through several clicks quicker than I anticipated. The Snapon took 39 clicks to make a compete circle. Didn't need to restart counting at all because the clicks were solid, smooth and the same amount of pressure was needed for each click.

Both have tri-bar heads for switching direction. The Snapon's works effortlessly and it was VERY difficult to find that "lost area" between directions where its in neutral. Just switching directions I never hit it. The HF switching was rough and didn't want to lock into a new direction until fully turned. Also on the tri-bar mechanisms themselves; the Snapon is metal, smooth and close to the ratchet head whereas the HF's is plastic, sharp edged and raised up from the ratchet head. I could see where the HFs mechanism would hang up on something if your doing close work.

The HF model was $13, I paid like 4 times that for the Snapon and its used.

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Well, there is still something to be said for you get what you pay for!

And it will always be, we are always looking in this country for something for nothing. We looked and with not as glowing comments will continue to use SK 3/8's in this role, same reasons as above, the outcome is minimized frustrations.

It is hard to be on either the go Snap On regardless or something is cheap and good enough side. It is what you use it for. Use it once a year not to much frustration, after we discovered them the SK and Snap on rotating heads have become a favorite, so we use them so often the little things become a frustration.

As for 1/2 inch drive our use for them has become so different than it was 40 years ago, we have not found the desire to go rotating head in them.
 

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Does your avatar imply that you may possibly use Cornwell tools in order to maintain your collection of Snap on tools in pristine condition?:bowdown:

You mean like the Cornwell stuff is where the tools actually meet the grease and dirt? Kinda like the Cornwells are stunt doubling the Snappys through the greasy parts of the job eh! :lol_hitti
 
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64merc

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Nice comparison Rickster!!

Well, you get what you pay for. The HF version is a great value and I suspect this will be enough to sway people towards the HF in most cases.

Oh, by the way, I'll trade you my HF version for your Snappy??
 

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These are on sale again.
I see this thread has been around a while.

Anybody have a long term test report to give?

Anybody ever take one of these apart?

Thanks
 

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