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Y MANIFOLD GANG

Thomas , I think I may have topped the Y Manifold story.
As you may know I sell many Unique & Off Beat items on ebay. I have sold everything from mink coats to rat skulls. I even sold a guy some of the salt off the truck from Bonneville.

Through a freind of a freind I met a guy that needed to sell a bunch of his STUFF. I went to his house & purchased some stuff .I took other things to sell on consignment. One of the items was a 1800's blackpowder shotgun. I purchased the shotgun for my collection. Even thought it was not in working condition. I thought it would be a cool wall hanger.
There was no makers marks or company name on the shotgun. But it was marked H. HARTUNG in HADERSLEBEN. I researhed this name online & found a women in Texas that posted on ancestry.com looking for info on a H. HARTUNG & he lived in a little town named HADERSLEBEN Denmark in the late 1800's. I contacted her & it turned out H. Hartung is her Great Great Great Great Grandfather. Well to make this long story short. The shotgun is now in Texas hanging on the wall in her fathers house.

It is so cool to get this 1800's shootgun back into the hand of this family. God only knows how his vintage shotgun got from Denmark to San Diego & how it stayed in such nice condition....I wish someone would find my great grand father single action army colt revolver & contact me.
Here are a few photos of the shotgun.
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Oh it's different all right, I doubt very much that there is another one like it anywhere. It's just so ironic that I wound up with almost the complete opposite of what I set out to do. Honestly, after the first couple of coats of sealer, the floor was all glossy black, highly reflective and all - it was stunningly cool contrasting with the white walls and ceiling. I starting thinking this isn't so bad after all. Maybe everyone will think I did this on purpose, kind of a designer floor and all. :dunno:

Over time I've just accepted it and moved on. Here's a very recent photo showing the floor...

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...and you can see how it's really lightening up. I don't have any tire marks to contend with and after all, that was the main goal of the exercise. It is after all, just a barn. :)

Thanks Erik for your patience. As you can see I'm coming down the home stretch with the Barn Bench Build. Just a liiiiittttllle bit more sanding and tweaking. I'm waiting for the hot tub and sauna installation at the moment and wait till you see how the anvil was incorporated. :thumbup: I should have the final on this post soon.

Thomas

That is a winning combination Thomas. I think it looks great and your right, it will go a long way to mask tire marks well (and don't forget the occasional oil leak from the classic rides:D)

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Man, I love that bench and cabinet. Very very nicely done.

Now that I'm actually using the BB on a limited basis ( I'm still waiting for the top finish- 6 coats of Varathane- to harden before the final sanding with 600-1200 grit, wet/dry and then polish. The Varathane will take at least 6-8 weeks to completely harden before I do so.) The bottom cabinet with 6 coats of Watco Danish oil in all done and polished. Well I felt the lighting over it needed to be beefed up so...

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...I installed 2 low profile, T 8 florescent fixtures and installed rocker on/off switches instead of pull chains for a cleaner look.

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That really helped with my old eyes.

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I tucked the wiring into the shelf supports...

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...to help minimize the wiring clutter. More to follow.

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Thomas I want a cabinet like that in my next kitchen.

The electrical outlet for my computer is out in the open and not behind my desk, it is also a high traffic area and the surge protector cord was always getting bumped because it sticks out from the wall, much like your light plugs.

I fixed the problem by purchasing plugs that have the cord coming from the side and not from the end, it tucks the cord nice and tight up against the wall.


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Thomas I want a cabinet like that in my next kitchen.

The electrical outlet for my computer is out in the open and not behind my desk, it is also a high traffic area and the surge protector cord was always getting bumped because it sticks out from the wall, much like your light plugs.

I fixed the problem by purchasing plugs that have the cord coming from the side and not from the end, it tucks the cord nice and tight up against the wall.


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Hello again Nuts! For electrical items not often unplugged, I don't know why manufacturers don't use those "flat plugs" such as the one you mention. They are so handy aren't they? Here's the lift room before I moved my tool box in.

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Note the 4 black electrical outlets on the wall behind the concrete finisher. Here's that same wall after I started to settle in...

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...full of tool boxes parked within an inch or so from that wall completely covering up 2 of those outlets. Notice the black power strip hanging on the back left of the "hutch". Without a "flat plug" on that power strip I'd have had to keep the box much further away from the wall if I wanted to use any of those outlets. As it is I was able to use a flat plug and thus keep the box close to the wall and still have power available. Flat plugs can really save the day in some cases can't they?

I tried to find molded flat power plugs for the under shelf lights but couldn't. Best suggestion I heard was to buy a power strip with a flat plug on it, cut the power cord off and use it. That I chose not to do. :(


BTW, you can have a cabinet just like the BB in your next kitchen, no problem. A few hundred hours labor and it'll magically appear. You might want to consider a caty-wampus airline running behind it before hand though. ;)

Thomas
 
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I was looking through this thread when I spotted the axle grinder and remember I had found plans for this a while back, Is it possible Mr. Johnson found these plans as well back when it was in the magazine it was printed in? Either way it is quite cool, and very nice job on the shop keep it up.

Grinder Plans: http://www.vintageprojects.com/power-tools/grinder-auto.pdf

Schwenk Industries I looked at the Grinder Plans link you sent and it's possible that Mr Johnson was inspired by it. The one he made...

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...is along the same idea, even being flat belt powered. We'll never know though, lost to history.

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I do know that the old grinder worked very well and there were a couple on inches or more of metal filings at the base of it on the floor. It was in use for decades. Thank you for the link, well done. :thumbup:

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Hello again Nuts! For electrical items not often unplugged, I don't know why manufacturers don't use those "flat plugs" such as the one you mention.

I tried to find molded flat power plugs for the under shelf lights but couldn't. Best suggestion I heard was to buy a power strip with a flat plug on it, cut the power cord off and use it. That I chose not to do. :(


Thomas

I think I've seen just the flat plugs as replacement parts in Home Depot or Lowes... I will take a look next time I am in one...
 

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Thomas, your experience with the outlets is why I put mine over 4' from the floor so that a 4x8 sheet wouldn't cover them. It's worked well for me.

I'm still in awe of what you have and are discovering and sharing with us.

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I think I've seen just the flat plugs as replacement parts in Home Depot or Lowes... I will take a look next time I am in one...

Thanks Joe, I think you can get just a replacement flat plug, but I wanted the power cord to have a single piece molded plug on it and not a "clunky" added on screws and clamp replacement plug. It's purely aesthetics but I haven't seen a well designed replacement flat plug and behind the bench it was going to be highly visible that a clean, visual appearance was important to me. It's a fault or a curse with me, I don't know which, but I do my best to channel it for the greater good. :eek:

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Thomas,
Many times I've made custom length cables by cutting up PC computer power cables. The garage door openers didn't need six-foot cables so I made up short ones for the 15-inch run (could have just cut the 6-foot cable but those got recycled for other projects).

Before this turns into a switch plate nightmare, why not use a white extension cord with a flat plug? I don't think you need a grounded plug for a fluorescent light fixture. The plugs are even angled to match your wire routing.
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Thomas and Chris, I have spent most of my spare time (a few late nights) the last week reading this thread. I am beyond impressed with your dedication to the shop and the equipment saved!! I have seen many places like that just bulldozed into a big pile and hauled off!! My hat's off to you both!!
 

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DK that was my thinking too, and I think a lot would agree. I joined this thread I think it was a year old which was page 100, I think. Back then I thought THAT was a lot of catching up.
My hat's off to you and anyone else joining in as of now. That's a lot of reading. But so worth it, wouldn't you agree?
I'm liking that bench, Thomas! It will last beyond your son's grand children. (as long as walls still have 90* corners in the future)
John.
 
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I had to repair and fabricated license plate holders on Gus since I have 1948 Illinois plates and they'er an oddball size. Even the holes are located differently from plate to plate so the holders I made are specific to each plate front and back. In that year Illinois plates were still a pressed cardboard kind of material and painted on since there was still a metal shortage from the war.

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I also made Lexan covers to protect them. Notice the lettering on the bottom of both plates is crooked, the plates were still being made in the state prisons back then. Quality was a little spotty.

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I hadn't installed the front Lexan cover when these pictures were taken. In the Illinois we can put plates on a vintage vehicle the same year it was manufactured as long as we carry the proper current plates in the car. Gus is a 1948 Willys so those are the plates I used.

It was a beautiful day so I took Gus out for a walk and got these images...

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I finally got that outside mirror changed over to a proper...

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...round one. So whaada think, black and white images ok? :dunno:

Thomas
 
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LOVE it Thomas, other than the tidiness, you wouldnt know some of those pictures are modern. Unless you look at the detail!
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Gus looks great! Too bad regular Illinois license plates aren't made in Illinois anymore (they're made in Minnesota if I remember correctly). Vanity plates are made in Illinois by a company that employs special needs people, way to go on that part!
 

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Great photos! I really like the one with the sign post in it.

I dig that truck too! Looks like something else has made it to my wish list!

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Thomas, your experience with the outlets is why I put mine over 4' from the floor so that a 4x8 sheet wouldn't cover them. It's worked well for me.

I'm still in awe of what you have and are discovering and sharing with us.

Tim

Tim, by setting the outlets high like that is really thinking ahead. As you might remember on page 33, post # 658, I set my 4 X 8 Masonite sheets on end and built a special storage spot for them to avoid that very same problem.

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Your solution sounds very workable as well. Thank you also for your continued interest and support with my blathering here. After more than 6 years out there and still more to do, it's been great fun to share with everyone here. I do appreciate you stopping by. :thumbup:

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Thomas,
Many times I've made custom length cables by cutting up PC computer power cables. The garage door openers didn't need six-foot cables so I made up short ones for the 15-inch run (could have just cut the 6-foot cable but those got recycled for other projects).

Before this turns into a switch plate nightmare, why not use a white extension cord with a flat plug? I don't think you need a grounded plug for a fluorescent light fixture. The plugs are even angled to match your wire routing.
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Bob what a great idea! :thumbup: Where were you last week when I was installing those lights, huh?? Honestly I didn't think of using an extension cord to get a pre-molded flat plug.

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Fortunately those outlets are a long way to the back of the bench (33" -84 cm), and the extended backsplash moved them even further back so I don't think the plugs I used will be a problem.......but if it does guess how I'm going to solve that little detail? :D

Many thanks my friend for a clever solution and taking the time to share it here.

Thomas
 
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Thomas and Chris, I have spent most of my spare time (a few late nights) the last week reading this thread. I am beyond impressed with your dedication to the shop and the equipment saved!! I have seen many places like that just bulldozed into a big pile and hauled off!! My hat's off to you both!!

DK that was my thinking too, and I think a lot would agree. I joined this thread I think it was a year old which was page 100, I think. Back then I thought THAT was a lot of catching up.
My hat's off to you and anyone else joining in as of now. That's a lot of reading. But so worth it, wouldn't you agree?
I'm liking that bench, Thomas! It will last beyond your son's grand children. (as long as walls still have 90* corners in the future)
John.

Mr Kerns congratulations for making it through and a warm welcome as well. The more I'm out there the more I realize how close the whole thing came to being lost to a developer and everything winding up in a landfill. In fact, a few weeks after I bought the property a local developer approached me and said he'd heard I'd bought it and would I like some assistance developing it? He told me with all that land cleared there were 11 potential lots that could be developed and homes built on it. That would certainly have been the most expedient way to clean everything up and most if not all the equipment would have been turned into scrap. :( I'm just lucky the timing worked out for me and the family.

John aka ToyMeKaNeK , very nice thoughts. I agree that anyone just now starting on this thread has to be super dedicated to wade through it all. Just hope they'er not disappointed to see Chris still hasn't gotten around to posted her thread test. :dunno: She'll bounce a thought off me every once in a while so I know that something's going on but haven't a clue as to the timing of it all.

In my wood shop some of the cabinet makers benches I use are over 100 years old having wood screws on the vises and all. I expect them to be in use indefinitely, that or put in a museum. While they are sturdy and all, they don't approach the beefiness I've built into the BB. I think you're right John, it should last beyond my son's grand children. Frankly I don't think it'll be moved out that corner in the barn for a long time to come. Just too ding-dang heavy!! ;)

Thomas
 
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now I want a truck like Gus so bad... Thanks Thomas :mad:
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I know they have also been built overhere in the Netherlands, but never came across one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser-Frazer#Kaiser_Frazer_in_the_Netherlands

PlekVis interesting link, thanks for posting it. I didn't know most of that information. You'd think with Kaiser doing some manufacturing over there you would see them every so often.

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The more I'm around Gus the more I'm bonding with him. He is really turning out to be a gem. I took a friend out for a ride and he remarked how he'd forgotten all the mechanical sounds that vehicles use to make. Gus is basic-basic if you will. No frills anywhere, what you see is what you get, but in a friendly sort of way and don't ever get in a hurry. I just get a big fat grin on my face whenever I take him out for a drive. A very welcome addition to the family. :D

Thomas
 

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Thomas, in regards to Gus, I searched the pages after Gus came home to the center of the universe looking for additional pics of the interior. What I was looking for was the shift stalks for a Warn Overdrive unit. I'm curious if these units were ever factory or dealer installed in new trucks such as a P.T.O. might have been. :dunno:

I own a '62 Willys P.U. project in which I will keep the stock transmission /transfer case but would like to add a Warn O.D., if I can locate one, to reduce the screaming from those old square-cut gears. If you (or anyone) can enlighten me, it would be much appreciated.

I like the period-correct round mirror!

P.S. - Have you put Gus on the lift to inspect the underside? I was told many years ago that those frames tended to crack above the spring shackles. Mine did :( in those areas and I solved the problem by welding the cracks and adding 'fish-plate' to the web of the c-channel almost the entire length of the frame.
 

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Thomas, in regards to Gus, I searched the pages after Gus came home to the center of the universe looking for additional pics of the interior. What I was looking for was the shift stalks for a Warn Overdrive unit. I'm curious if these units were ever factory or dealer installed in new trucks such as a P.T.O. might have been. :dunno:

I own a '62 Willys P.U. project in which I will keep the stock transmission /transfer case but would like to add a Warn O.D., if I can locate one, to reduce the screaming from those old square-cut gears. If you (or anyone) can enlighten me, it would be much appreciated.

...and I get to help again :rocker: ...

I came to this forum from a Jeep forum (http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/content.php). I haven't been checking in there much lately. :sad: The guys there would always link to hermtheoverdriveguy.com for questions on PTO and Overdrives. It looks like he moved and his new web site is http://atvmfg.com/. The guys on the CJ5 forum would ask him questions and he usually responded pretty quickly.

...and there is a TON of info on the CJ5 site about anything Jeep. Kind of like GJ and tools...
 

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I might have framed out a stud wall/drywall to go behind that work bench... Just a thought.. :)

& whats the other side of that wall? it's not an outside wall is it?
 
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I just really liked the picture you took of Gus so I figured I would give a little "patina" to it. (It's my new desktop background) I really have enjoyed reading this whole story (keep it up) and have always been interested in old things even the small stuff. especially those homemade contraptions and modifications that tell a story.
 

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I might have framed out a stud wall/drywall to go behind that work bench... Just a thought.. :)

& whats the other side of that wall? it's not an outside wall is it?

Rick that airline behind the BB connects to...

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...this air fitting outside the barn which is for...

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..this Eco Air Meter. On the other side of that wall sits the...

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...BB. Notice the entrance door to the far left of the bench which is the same entrance door on the far right of the middle picture. Confused yet?? Did I mention the wall here is 16' tall behind this bench?

And on the other side of the wall...

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...behind the short "L" on the bench is my...

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...trailer storage room. Now what was the question?? :confused:

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Thomas, in regards to Gus, I searched the pages after Gus came home to the center of the universe looking for additional pics of the interior. What I was looking for was the shift stalks for a Warn Overdrive unit. I'm curious if these units were ever factory or dealer installed in new trucks such as a P.T.O. might have been. :dunno:

I own a '62 Willys P.U. project in which I will keep the stock transmission /transfer case but would like to add a Warn O.D., if I can locate one, to reduce the screaming from those old square-cut gears. If you (or anyone) can enlighten me, it would be much appreciated.

I like the period-correct round mirror!

P.S. - Have you put Gus on the lift to inspect the underside? I was told many years ago that those frames tended to crack above the spring shackles. Mine did :( in those areas and I solved the problem by welding the cracks and adding 'fish-plate' to the web of the c-channel almost the entire length of the frame.


Omphaloskeptic sorry but I guess I haven't had time to post any interior pictures.

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These are the floor shift levers, the left one is for the front transfer case engagement (engages Four Wheel Drive) and the right one is for High/Low transfer case. Low is when you're pulling stumps, plowing fields or a-hem, in challenging terrane. :)

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The transmission shift lever is on the column and is a conventional three speed with non syncro first gear and no overdrive...

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Also, Gus still retains his original 60/40 split front seat.....bonus!

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Did the link mdbeck1 posted answer your Warn O.D. question? If not I'm confident our group here will come to your aid.

A while back I did get Gus up in the air for a cursory look underneath. It was quick once over, primarily looking at the floor pans and was very happy with the overall condition of most everything. I didn't pay any attention to the frame areas you mentioned and will do so at my next opportunity. Thanks for the suggestion.

BTW, ya I like that round mirror head much better also. It was a gift from a 92 year old friend of mine who still drives daily and around these parts is considered a mechanical genius on older cars. Thank you Earl Hale! :thumbup:

Thomas
 
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...and I get to help again :rocker: ...

I came to this forum from a Jeep forum (http://www.earlycj5.com/forums/content.php). I haven't been checking in there much lately. :sad: The guys there would always link to hermtheoverdriveguy.com for questions on PTO and Overdrives. It looks like he moved and his new web site is http://atvmfg.com/. The guys on the CJ5 forum would ask him questions and he usually responded pretty quickly.

...and there is a TON of info on the CJ5 site about anything Jeep. Kind of like GJ and tools...

mdbeck1, you da man for sure! Great link and good information. Many thanks for posting it here. :thumbup:

Thomas
 
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Great job! VERY COOL SHOP!!!!

Well thank you tbjcc001, it's not something you'll see very often. Hope you stop back for a visit every so often. You never know what's going to show up here, maybe even that test from Chris? :willy_nil

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I just really liked the picture you took of Gus so I figured I would give a little "patina" to it. (It's my new desktop background) I really have enjoyed reading this whole story (keep it up) and have always been interested in old things even the small stuff. especially those homemade contraptions and modifications that tell a story.

Aw that's outstanding work on those two pictures Schwenk Industries, really nicely done. If you have a chance take a look at these and see what you can do with a little "patina" on them.

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Unfortunately I don't have the 1948 license plates on in these pictures but still.....

Thank you for taking the time to do those other two pictures and posting them. Greatly appreciated. :thumbup:

Thomas
 

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Looking at they Jeep makes me wanna get the one in the garage running. Although it's not as cool as yours.
 
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