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Above 1200 Sq/FT Restored 1930's Auto Shop

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Now don't give me any credit (I am terrible with computers) I just used a program that a baby can use. :D (I wish I had the skills to do that though.)

The program is called Pixlr-o-matic try it out (free), just takes a little tinkering.

http://pixlr.com/o-matic/
 

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Omphaloskeptic

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Thomas, thanks for posting additional interior pics of Gus; he's very photogenic for such an old guy.

mdbeck1, thanks so much for the link! Now, I've got to dive into that site and dig up more info on what I can & can't do for my old beast.
 

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ok, got the location of bench squared away...so.. 8ft stud wall against that outside wall will give you a flat wall surface for the bench to **** up to & hide that airline etc. You could even face it with some nice veneer plywood instead of drywall & have it so that it can be removed/unscrewed from the studs for access if you need it in the future :)
 
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ok, got the location of bench squared away...so.. 8ft stud wall against that outside wall will give you a flat wall surface for the bench to **** up to & hide that airline etc. You could even face it with some nice veneer plywood instead of drywall & have it so that it can be removed/unscrewed from the studs for access if you need it in the future :)

Very true Rick, but to further illustrate the environment surrounding the bench...

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..trying to construct a more finished wall surface behind it just to hide the air line would be awkward I think. As it is now, it fits right in with rest of the utilitarian barn interior, visible airline and all.

And here's where the bench is located in relation to that outside wall...

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...as seen standing in the open overhead doorway. Good ideas though Rick, thanks. ;)

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Looking at that Jeep makes me wanna get the one in the garage running. Although it's not as cool as yours.

reddog289 they are such simple machines you should get it running in time for driving this spring. Alllllll Jeeps are cool. ;) Make it happen!

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Now don't give me any credit (I am terrible with computers) I just used a program that a baby can use. :D (I wish I had the skills to do that though.)

The program is called Pixlr-o-matic try it out (free), just takes a little tinkering.

http://pixlr.com/o-matic/

Here's Gus getting lettered...

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...40 years ago or 2 months ago. Neat program Schwenk Industries, very, very cool. :thumbup:

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That truck reminds me a lot of the '57 Willys Wagon 4x4 I used to have. Yours looks nice.

galexie64 you could always get another one you know. :) It was fun then and it's still fun now. As I'm so fond of saying.......if you'er not having fun, what's the point? :dunno:


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A little more elaboration on the Illinois soybean cardboard license plates. Illinois issued them from 1943 thru 1948 to conserve metal for the war effort and were constructed out of a material that was a combination of soybean paste and pressed cardboard. It's been known that goats and sheep would munch on them if you parked in a barnyard and left the car unattended, honest! They were only intended to last for a year and then be replaced with the next years plate so they aren't all that robust. Those plates that still survive like the ones I used on Gus are over 60 years old now and need to be displayed in a protected manner.

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The front bumper on Gus only had these two holes in it to attach a license plate and those holes didn't line up with the holes on my plates.

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I fabricated a stainless steel backing plate that I mounted to the bumper in the pre-existing holes using stainless steel button head screws to keep the head profile as thin as possible and used self locking nuts throughout. I now had a new surface which the old plate could then be attached.

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When using all stainless threaded hardware it's important to use anti-seize on the threads to prevent galling or locking/seizing of the threads as stainless is prone to do. Here's an excellent link for more information on "How To Stop Thread Galling On Stainless Fasteners"

http://www.estainlesssteel.com/gallingofstainless.html

Seen on the right of the tube is a self-locking nut compared with a regular nut, both in stainless.

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Since the front cardboard plate was a little warped, with the full backing plate to fasten the license to it's now well supported. I suspended the cardboard plate between the backing plate and the Lexan cover so there is minimal contact. That prevents the cardboard from chaffing and allows any moisture that gets in to drain or dry quickly. It's a little clunky having that Lexan cover over the plate but I felt the need to protect the old plate. Once it gets a few bugs smashed up on it, it'll look right at home.

In the rear you can see that...

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... the rear plate is right in line with the rear tire. That tire will be throwing up dirt, mud, water, stones etc so I fabricated a stainless backing plate for it as well.

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You can see that the outside part of the old license bracket is missing and what remains is a little bent but the license now displays straight. I also had to do a little welding repair to what was there and it's solid now. As with the front, the backing plate is slightly oversized to protect the cardboard plate as much as possible.

All in all not especially elegant engineering, but for now it serves its purpose; "To Display and Protect" :D

Thomas
 

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It may not be correct but you could laminate the plates Thomas. That would keep them from being damaged easily and still keep them looking good. I believe they make a low gloss laminate that should make it look like it's never been done.
 
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It may not be correct but you could laminate the plates Thomas. That would keep them from being damaged easily and still keep them looking good. I believe they make a low gloss laminate that should make it look like it's never been done.

I had no idea that could be done, it's certainly something to consider. Many thanks for that creative suggestion charlief1. :thumbup: I'll look into it.

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I have to ask, with the perspex will you have trouble with the law ? As here some perspex covers are illegal as the cameras can not see or photograph the plate.

Do you want the "technically, completely legal " answer? If so yes, I believe there is a law that would prevent the license plate from being covered. I have a few friends in the law enforcement community including our State Police and their collective take on the whole manner is this: While yes it technically shouldn't be done, only an extremely obnoxious officer would ever give you a hard time about it, much less a ticket. They all feel that since I'm using a clear cover, I'm trying to protect the plate and keep it from deteriorating and therefore make it more legible not less. Especially with it being a vintage collector car which they all said are usually given quite a bit of slack. So while a problem is possible, it's not very likely. Lastly, in Illinois I can display vintage license plates on the car as long as the current collector license plate and registration is kept in the car for their examination. It's not even displayed, just kept in the car along with all the other car related paper work.

I guess it also helps that there are no traffic enforcement cameras around here so that wouldn't come up as an objection. Still if the next time I post on here and I'm in a jail cell we'll all know I found that one obnoxious officer who just doesn't like covered plates of any sort. There's alway one isn't there? :sad:

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I had no idea that could be done, it's certainly something to consider. Many thanks for that creative suggestion charlief1. :thumbup: I'll look into it.

Thomas

We used to do it all the time Thomas. Check and see if there's a stationary supply close and they probibly will have the equipment and it doesn't cost a whole lot. It is permanent though so you can't reverse the process.
 

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Thanks Thomas for the words of encouragement. Just got the Mark 8 running and almost on the road. Next winter the plan is the wife gets to drive her Jeep again. Not as old and cool as yours but a Jeep all the same. I'm a Ford guy and want it back on the road.
 
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One of the Videos from old family 8 mm flim featuring the old 1930's Auto Shop on YouTube Is FINALLY Posted. Click on this link:


...or YouTube search for 1930's auto shop.

Turn your speakers up if you want to hear the engine starting and revving at the beginning.

Some of it you'll recognize as being filmed from the roof of the family home as the camera pans from the back yard, past the honey house, the 2 car garage and by the east side of the original shop. Most of this footage is from the mid 1950's and I had the old 8 mm film cleaned up as best I could.

So what do you think about it??

Thomas
 
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Tom,

Can you hear the roar of the crowd? I submit they are raising a ruckus to see the 2012 sequel!

You might want to send Cameron up there, with a proper safety harness, too.
 

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Great video Thomas. It shows quite the contrast to the pictures from when you had just taken over...

Btw, just noticed the snowchains on the shop's Jeep as they were unloading the Walker. Didn't see that when looking at the picture you posted earlier. Thought I should mention it, for those who didn't see it (always having Chris' popquiz in mind...) :eek2:

Now, are you planning on aquiring the same chains for Gus, for authenticity I mean?
Or is he strictly going to be a nice weather car? :3gears:
 

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Great now I want an 54 Studebaker. Year of birth car.
Really cool film, if there was some way to slow the video down a little bit that would make it even better.
 

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"Now, are you planning on aquiring the same chains for Gus, for authenticity I mean? "

I'm thinking that with Thomas's 'Penchant for Perfection' (catawampus wall switch plate aside, lol), he will not only have Gus in chains, but they will be done in a truck-body-color-matched-powder-coat-finish!:bow:
 

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One of the Videos from old family 8 mm flim featuring the old 1930's Auto Shop

Some of it you'll recognize as being filmed from the roof of the family home as the camera pans from the back yard, past the honey house, the 2 car garage and by the east side of the original shop. Most of this footage is from the mid 1950's and I had the old 8 mm film cleaned up as best I could.

So what do you think about it??

Thomas

Thomas,

It looks really great!

Is there a possibility of making a short, current video view of the back yard from the same perspective on the roof? It would make an interesting comparative study of some 60 years passage.

Thanks,
 
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Thomas,
Many times I've made custom length cables by cutting up PC computer power cables. The garage door openers didn't need six-foot cables so I made up short ones for the 15-inch run (could have just cut the 6-foot cable but those got recycled for other projects).

Before this turns into a switch plate nightmare, why not use a white extension cord with a flat plug? I don't think you need a grounded plug for a fluorescent light fixture. The plugs are even angled to match your wire routing.
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I couldn't see the image at work but found the same in black and a heavier Appliance extension cord in grey, later I found a *********** strip at Sears for only 4 or 5 dollars... I'd wire tie one of the strips to a shelf bracket and plug the lights into that...

One switch, two lights, one outlet, not pretty (I Know:eyecrazy:) but functional...
 
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GREAT video Thomas :). Are you in the video? (playing in the snow?).

Wish you were closer, I would love a look around.

Well that's the beauty of jet aircraft, you're only a few hours away. Book a cheap flight - here's how:


and then you'd be most welcome to look around.

BTW yes, that's me in the video lurking in the shadows looking around the shop thinking "boy some day if I could own this it'd be swell!" :)

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Tom,

Can you hear the roar of the crowd? I submit they are raising a ruckus to see the 2012 sequel!

You might want to send Cameron up there, with a proper safety harness, too.

Thomas,

It looks really great!

Is there a possibility of making a short, current video view of the back yard from the same perspective on the roof? It would make an interesting comparative study of some 60 years passage.

Thanks,

Great minds think alike it seems. That's been the plan since I first saw the original 8 mm film. I've waited long enough to get that video posted and I didn't want to hold it up any longer but it's in the works. I thought a split screen would be cool, old video running above and current one running below or something like that. I'll get a new one shot and then see how well it works out. I'll keep you posted on my progress but I think it'd be a hoot. Stand by!

Thomas
 
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Great now I want an 54 Studebaker. Year of birth car.
Really cool film, if there was some way to slow the video down a little bit that would make it even better.

donnie, I was thinking that also. I'm sure there is a way to slow it down but I didn't try to change it, that's the raw footage you see. I might try to slow it down and post a revised version. It pans way too fast past the lift before the walls were built around it. That part really intrigues me.

Those Studebaker Commanders were breathtakingly beautiful weren't they. When they were introduced in 1953 there was nothing even close to those lovely, sleek, clean body lines. With a car like that, the Golden Hawk and later the Avanti, how did they manage to go out of business? :sad:


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Great video Thomas. It shows quite the contrast to the pictures from when you had just taken over...

Btw, just noticed the snowchains on the shop's Jeep as they were unloading the Walker. Didn't see that when looking at the picture you posted earlier. Thought I should mention it, for those who didn't see it (always having Chris' popquiz in mind...) :eek2:

Now, are you planning on aquiring the same chains for Gus, for authenticity I mean?
Or is he strictly going to be a nice weather car? :3gears:

I am not surprised at all that someone from Norway would catch that, very sharp eye there babaluba. :thumbup: With all the snow you guys get are tire chains still used there in the winter? Gus is not a prissy truck and with 4 wheel drive might see some winter use, but not anywhere he would pick up salt. That stuff is deadly on older vehicles. :eek: They have too much unpainted metal exposed underneath. Pure snow won't hurt a thing and around Philo fortunately they just use sand on the roads, no salt. All in all though Gus is likely only see dry weather. He is 64 years old you know...

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...but looks pretty good after all that time don't you think? Next I need to rework the mirror stem to lower the mirror head. It telescopes in and out.

Thomas
 
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I like the period-correct round mirror!

P.S. - Have you put Gus on the lift to inspect the underside? I was told many years ago that those frames tended to crack above the spring shackles. Mine did :( in those areas and I solved the problem by welding the cracks and adding 'fish-plate' to the web of the c-channel almost the entire length of the frame.

It just so happens, while I was waiting for the finish to dry on another project you'll get to see, I put Gus up...

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...for a look see at those possible frame cracks you mentioned.

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Pictured are some of those potential spots and there's no frame cracking at any of the 8 shackle attachment areas anywhere on the frame that I can see. Just surface rust on the unpainted metal everywhere that needs attention at some point and lots of crusty old grease. I looked a little more carefully this time for structural problems but it looks to be mostly cosmetic attention only needed. Thank you Omphaloskeptic for the heads up. :thumbup:

Thomas
 
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Cool video

Cool video Tom!

wow that vid is way cool !!

Very cool. Thanks, Thomas

Very cool video, thanks for sharing.

The first time I saw some of the original films I thought they were waaaaaay cool also. It's just one more item documenting the history of that old shop, before, during and after. I wonder if it's the only decades old shop that has it's own YouTube video?! It's nice others feel the enthusiasm/passion for the shop as I do. That's why it's been so much fun sharing all of it here. Thank you everyone. :beer:

One of the things, as I look at the video now, I'm really struck by how gently Mr Johnson and his helper are as they remove and lower the old Walker Floor Jack down to the ground. Taking care of the tools of the trade it seems. More is on the way.

Thomas
 

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Thomas, your very welcome! So, old man Gus is 64 years old; doesn't look a day over 30. The absence of frame cracks is just one more indication to me that the old boy was indeed well-loved over the generations of care. We at GJ all know that his current owner will lavish even more attention to his needs; after all he's 'retired at 64' to Johnson's Garage. lol
 
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